Don't apply unless you have a job, ads say | The Columbus Dispatch

The unemployed need not apply. That is the message being broadcast by many of the nation's employers, making it even more difficult for 14million jobless Americans to get back to work. Full Story
Ummmm

Columbus, OH

#45 Jul 26, 2011
Mathew wrote:
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So those who have been unemployed should have lower standards than those with jobs and accept lower pay and less benefits, kind of like being "grateful" they're getting hired?
I didn't say they "should", they just probably are. It's called supply and demand, look it up.
Thinker

Columbus, OH

#46 Jul 26, 2011
just thinking wrote:
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I don't believe in the free market. The free market will steal as much as it can get and tell you to screw off if you complain. Regulation and laws prevent this. Take away the regulations and the market will hose over whomever it can. How much more proof do you need than the marketing of derivatives packages. And the loaning of money to people who could in no way afford to pay the loan. The original lenders knew they would cash in by selling off the bad product to unsuspecting investors before the package collapsed. Those are prime examples of free market unregulated.
Mortages to people who couldn't afford to repay them, what capitalist would do that? No-one, willingly. Fannie Mae, Rep Barney Frank and crew put the screws to the banks, demanding they give loans to people who would not normally qualify. All under the name of equal access to the American Dream of homeownership. This is what fueled the housing boom. Banks sold off these gov't backed, but unprofitable securities asap. They didn't want stuck with the losses. Then enter TARP. Ever notice why politicians attack the banks but not the giant government lender/securer Fannie Mae? They don't want attention put back on them.
Fed Up

Hilliard, OH

#47 Jul 26, 2011
Excellent post!
Cygnus wrote:
I relish the time that karma comes knocking for the arrogant posters, here. I have endured 2 extended lapses in my professional employment, and can attest from experience that the majority of job seekers are not lazily soaking up bennies. It is a horribly demoralizing experience to market yourself wholesale across every known avenue, only to receive SPAM offers of get rich quick schemes. Those who spew their judgement will sing a different tune when the shoe is on their foot.
Nepotism and cronyism are already rampant in hiring practices, and the omission of candidates based upon the span of their unemployment is reprehensible - and should be illegal under EEO regulations. Corrective, and perhaps punitive action should be pursued on the perpetrators of this blatant discrimination.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#48 Jul 26, 2011
It's kind of a dumb practice because most people with a job aren't going to change in this economy. It's too risky if it doesn't work out.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#49 Jul 26, 2011
Big Johnson wrote:
It's kind of a dumb practice because most people with a job aren't going to change in this economy. It's too risky if it doesn't work out.
Hey fake Big Johnson, if you're going to use my name, at least use a little wit in your comments. You are embarrassing me!
really

Columbus, OH

#50 Jul 26, 2011
Are you freaking kidding me???
HRSTRNR

West Chester, PA

#51 Jul 26, 2011
They really know how to kick a person when they down!!!!!!!!!!1

“aggrivated editor”

Since: Apr 11

Newark

#52 Jul 26, 2011
a few years back when i hired and fired if an applicant had been out of work for more than a year it told me they didnt feel a need to work..they were usually a bad risk..

i;d rather hire someone who'd never worked before rather than those who had big blank spaces in their work history.

“aggrivated editor”

Since: Apr 11

Newark

#53 Jul 26, 2011
Big Johnson wrote:
It's kind of a dumb practice because most people with a job aren't going to change in this economy. It's too risky if it doesn't work out.
no one with any sense quits one job before having another.

“aggrivated editor”

Since: Apr 11

Newark

#54 Jul 26, 2011
Mathew wrote:
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So those who have been unemployed should have lower standards than those with jobs and accept lower pay and less benefits, kind of like being "grateful" they're getting hired?
what "standards" should u possibly have when u choose not to work?

a job is not a right, employers dont owe u anything, if u choose not to work in a place that is ur right, as is an employer's right not to hire people who feel entitled to a job.
OMG

Dublin, OH

#55 Jul 26, 2011
ILBO wrote:
What has America come to? It should not matter how long you are unemployed. All that matters should be who is right for the job. Employers are taking advantage of the unemployed. The American way, taking advantage of the vulnerable. My husband was laid off in January. He had a terrible time finding a job. Because of his age(49). My husband's last job was in management. He took a job as a cable installer making $20,000 less a year. He has to work out in this horrible heat and carry a 80 lb ladder. But he doesn't complain because it's a job.
Tell him lots of people respect him for that!
OMG

Dublin, OH

#56 Jul 26, 2011
redharedgrl wrote:
a few years back when i hired and fired if an applicant had been out of work for more than a year it told me they didnt feel a need to work..they were usually a bad risk..
i;d rather hire someone who'd never worked before rather than those who had big blank spaces in their work history.
That seems excessively judgemental. People might have gaps in paid employment for all kinds of reason--extended overseas travel or employment, family obligations, health issues, career changes, cross country moves, marriage, divorce, childbearing or childrearing--all kinds of reasons that are not about not wanting to work. Kind of like I got hassled in school for not joining clubs--because I was taking care of my younger siblings while my parents worked. Why should people have to justify everything in their life to an employer. I think it is legit to ask an applicant to show some proof or evidence that they will be a reliable employee (that's called references) but to decide people are lazy because they have gaps in paid employment is crazy talk!
WMom is obviously perfect

Mount Gilead, OH

#57 Jul 26, 2011
redharedgrl wrote:
a few years back when i hired and fired if an applicant had been out of work for more than a year it told me they didnt feel a need to work..they were usually a bad risk..
i;d rather hire someone who'd never worked before rather than those who had big blank spaces in their work history.
Sorry....if I have savings and I'm burnt out from working overtime for many years, why must I work every month of my life? I don't see anyone judging the "ladies who lunch" their whole lives!
Anon

Grove City, OH

#58 Jul 27, 2011
Mathew wrote:
That doesn't even make any sense: don't apply for another job unless you're currently employed somewhere else?
I was laid-off in April and decided to take a different route: I'm going back to school to finish my degree. I should graduate in May 2012 and will then start looking for work again. You're telling me when I go to an employer and talk about my employment history/education and explain I was laid off in April, but went back to school to finish my degree, that means something bad?
I do wonder if it has something to do with younger managers not wanted to manage older employees. I suspect older qualifies as 35+ these days. They don't want to lose their job to that older, more experienced employee.

“aggrivated editor”

Since: Apr 11

Newark

#59 Jul 27, 2011
OMG wrote:
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That seems excessively judgemental. People might have gaps in paid employment for all kinds of reason--extended overseas travel or employment, family obligations, health issues, career changes, cross country moves, marriage, divorce, childbearing or childrearing--all kinds of reasons that are not about not wanting to work. Kind of like I got hassled in school for not joining clubs--because I was taking care of my younger siblings while my parents worked. Why should people have to justify everything in their life to an employer. I think it is legit to ask an applicant to show some proof or evidence that they will be a reliable employee (that's called references) but to decide people are lazy because they have gaps in paid employment is crazy talk!
well, hiring employees IS judgmental..and of course if there were good reasons for the gaps, i took that into consideration as to whether i believed them or not...but if i see big gaps and being on unemployment?welfare for month after month? that person doesn't want to work.

a high school club is a tad different than interviewing for a job.

and all a reference can give u r the dates of employment, nothing else.
Anon

Grove City, OH

#60 Jul 29, 2011
redharedgrl wrote:
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well, hiring employees IS judgmental..and of course if there were good reasons for the gaps, i took that into consideration as to whether i believed them or not...but if i see big gaps and being on unemployment?welfare for month after month? that person doesn't want to work.
a high school club is a tad different than interviewing for a job.
and all a reference can give u r the dates of employment, nothing else.
Has anybody reminded you today that your head is so far up your assss, you coudln't tell a good and loyal worker from a bum. Some people are so highly trained in their field of expertise and have so little ability to even find to black socks in the same drawer ( engineers come to mind ) that working outside of their field is nearly impossible. Blame our educational system that tells us that liberal arts is a waste of time and tuition, and that everybody has to be specialized, if you choose to. That doesn't mean that these folks are worthless, on the contrary. It means only that they know how to do only one thing. And that they haven't found a job opening in that sector.

“aggrivated editor”

Since: Apr 11

Newark

#61 Jul 29, 2011
Anon wrote:
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Has anybody reminded you today that your head is so far up your assss, you coudln't tell a good and loyal worker from a bum. Some people are so highly trained in their field of expertise and have so little ability to even find to black socks in the same drawer ( engineers come to mind ) that working outside of their field is nearly impossible. Blame our educational system that tells us that liberal arts is a waste of time and tuition, and that everybody has to be specialized, if you choose to. That doesn't mean that these folks are worthless, on the contrary. It means only that they know how to do only one thing. And that they haven't found a job opening in that sector.
good excuse for staying on the dole aint it?
i have more respect for folks cleaning floors or working at dairy queen.
bet if ur unemployment ran out u'd find a job pretty quick without all the "i'm too specialized" whining.

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#62 Jul 29, 2011
Joe wrote:
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Putting your snide anti-Boehner rant aside, the free market does work. And if government would get the hell out of the way with absurd regulations and high taxes, business could flourish and need those who are unemployed. Government can't generate REAL jobs anyway, so put that out of head right now.
How'd it work out in the 20's when Republicans lowered taxes, got rid of regulations and let business flourish?

Since: Sep 10

Columbus, OH

#63 Jul 29, 2011
Unemployed wrote:
If this article is true, then the only hope for the unemployed is going on government benefit programs or selling drugs. I see both groups living all around me and the current governmental crisis is making it worse. Instead of 47% of the country not filing tax returns it will skyrocket to 70-80% of the country.
By the time The Great Depression hit 80% of the country had fallen off of the tax roles. We keep getting closer and closer to that.
History major

Columbus, OH

#64 Jul 29, 2011
redharedgrl wrote:
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well, hiring employees IS judgmental..and of course if there were good reasons for the gaps, i took that into consideration as to whether i believed them or not...but if i see big gaps and being on unemployment?welfare for month after month? that person doesn't want to work.
a high school club is a tad different than interviewing for a job.
and all a reference can give u r the dates of employment, nothing else.
I agree. Hiring is definitely a judgment call. For example, I never hire redheads. I know that because their hair is red, it means their brains are rusty from underuse and the rust is oozing out through their hair. I definitely give preference to brunette applicants whose brown and black hair shows a well-oiled and used brain under those follicles.

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