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Fighting red-light ticket wins 1 in 5 times in city | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 46 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from May 30, 2011, titled Fighting red-light ticket wins 1 in 5 times in city | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Vicki Caldwell, left, and hearing officer Gail Patrick watch a red-light camera's video of her failure to stop while turning right on red.

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RED MEANS STOP

Reynoldsburg, OH

#26 May 30, 2011
johnhancock36 wrote:
The fines are civil. No consequence to your driving record. No possible criminal penalty for not paying. Unpaid fines go to collections, but you don't have and have never had a credit agreement with the city, therefore, any threat to your credit rating by a collector is misleading and likely illegal. If I get one, it is going straight to the recycle bin.
Nothing like giving the scofflaws and menacing ammunition.
Parasite Government

United States

#27 May 30, 2011
Also keep in mind the camera's typically only film traffic in one direction. So, while the traffic going south on S. 4th St. is filmed, the traffic going east on E. Main St. is not.

Once you learn where the cameras are, just avoid those intersections. People like Vicki Caldwell are the exact targets of this revenue generation scam - those who do not live in Columbus.

Or better yet, just stay out of Columbus. That is what I try to do as much as possible. When cites resort to schemes like cameras, it is a sure sign it is a city run by greedy, money-hungry government parasite-types.

“aggrivated editor”

Since: Apr 11

Newark

#28 May 30, 2011
lawbreakers paying fines and helping out the city financially....

sounds good to me.
eEnzyte Bob Paid Customer

Chicago, IL

#29 May 30, 2011
"Two new cameras are expected to be working on Wednesday: at E. Livingston Avenue and S. Yearling Road, and at E. Broad Street and Reynoldsburg-New Albany Road, Speaks said."

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Great, just what we needed. Something else to slow up that section of Broad Street even more.
RED MEANS STOP

Reynoldsburg, OH

#30 May 30, 2011
eEnzyte Bob Paid Customer wrote:
"Two new cameras are expected to be working on Wednesday: at E. Livingston Avenue and S. Yearling Road, and at E. Broad Street and Reynoldsburg-New Albany Road, Speaks said."
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Great, just what we needed. Something else to slow up that section of Broad Street even more.
It's not on Broad Street. It is on northbound Reynoldsburg-New Albany Road.
Concerned Citizen

Reynoldsburg, OH

#32 May 30, 2011
There is a very easy way to avoid getting tickets for a red light violation: STOP WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS RED! I can't wait for them to put up the camera at the Brice, Scarborough, Tussing intersection. I get tired waiting at the green light while ten or twelve cars turn left on red in front of me.
Paul Not Paublo

Bowling Green, OH

#33 May 30, 2011
Why are the cameras not in the most dangerous intersections? Why isn't there a 360 degree view the same as a police officer would have? Why does a private out of state company determine where the cameras are placed? Why are there cameras in 25 MPH zone areas, and not in 55 MPH zones? Why is the 62% reduced to 55% for the city cut of the take? When will they put a camera in your home because THEY think you might break the law? Watch that slope, it might be slippery.
hayduke

Marysville, OH

#34 May 30, 2011
johnhancock36 wrote:
The fines are civil. No consequence to your driving record. No possible criminal penalty for not paying. Unpaid fines go to collections, but you don't have and have never had a credit agreement with the city, therefore, any threat to your credit rating by a collector is misleading and likely illegal. If I get one, it is going straight to the recycle bin.
With civil parking tickets the cities report unpaid fines to BMV and you can't get a license tag renewed...do they do that with redlight tickets??
eEnzyte Bob Paid Customer

Chicago, IL

#35 May 30, 2011
Concerned Citizen wrote:
There is a very easy way to avoid getting tickets for a red light violation: STOP WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS RED! I can't wait for them to put up the camera at the Brice, Scarborough, Tussing intersection. I get tired waiting at the green light while ten or twelve cars turn left on red in front of me.
BS

The only reason people have to do that is because the city didn't design the infrastructure or time the lights properly in the first place. There is NO EXCUSE for how long it takes to navigate down Broad Street from I-270 going east. Likewise on Brice Rd. THE CITY OF COLUMBUS CAUSED THIS MESS. Blame them, not the people DISGUSTED by having to wait in all kinds of traffic CAUSED BY THE CITY'S INCOMPETENCE.

Broad St. often moves at 25 mph or less. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR THIS INCOMPETENCE.
Justsayso

Columbus, OH

#37 May 30, 2011
I don't like Big Brother watching me everywhere either, but really...just don't run red lights...When they are not making the money, they will get rid of them. And this is exactly what happens when you sell your State to private companies.....
Former LEO

Springboro, OH

#38 May 30, 2011
If a bill is passed standardizing these yellow signal intervals, these cameras will disappear within a year, as they will not be the money maker they were sold to be. Cbus does NOT want to cut violations. They want to INCREASE violations. That's how they get the money.

I've timed 5 red light intersections downtown. The yellow lights are all timed under 4 seconds. Now, 3 seconds was the former supposed "minimum", and since the law requires an extra second be tacked on at a red light camera intersection, they should all be at least 4 seconds.

But they're not.

Ask yourself why.
KW Ohio

Burlington, KY

#39 May 30, 2011
Paul Not Paublo wrote:
Why are the cameras not in the most dangerous intersections? Why isn't there a 360 degree view the same as a police officer would have? Why does a private out of state company determine where the cameras are placed? Why are there cameras in 25 MPH zone areas, and not in 55 MPH zones? Why is the 62% reduced to 55% for the city cut of the take? When will they put a camera in your home because THEY think you might break the law? Watch that slope, it might be slippery.
RedFlex is an Australian company--not even a US company.

Contact your legislators. Mine told me it was best left up to the cities and townships. That's not what he said a few months ago when he came to my door campaigning to be elected to the representative office for two years. I won't be voting for him (or Kasuck) again.
KW Ohio

Burlington, KY

#40 May 30, 2011
Notice that Australian Redflex shows lots of accidents at intersections, but apparently their redlight cameras which have been in DAyton for years haven't prevented redlight running. The first one I saw was at Third Street a road along the river--blocks away from a red light camera.
Apparently the cameras DON'T prevent red light running except at intersections where the cameras are and that's only if someone knows there's a camera there. Out-of-towners often don't realize it.
http://www.redflex.com/html/usa/index.php
http://www.redflex.com
Dan Gleesack

Columbus, OH

#42 May 30, 2011
Concerned Citizen wrote:
There is a very easy way to avoid getting tickets for a red light violation: STOP WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS RED! I can't wait for them to put up the camera at the Brice, Scarborough, Tussing intersection. I get tired waiting at the green light while ten or twelve cars turn left on red in front of me.
Yep, you're right. There are two of them going in at this interesection (Brice, Scarborough & Tussing). One eastbound and one northbound. It should turn out to be quite the cash grab.
NoBama2012

Fremont, OH

#43 Jul 1, 2011
hayduke wrote:
<quoted text>
With civil parking tickets the cities report unpaid fines to BMV and you can't get a license tag renewed...do they do that with redlight tickets??
Parking tickets are criminal, not civil.

Redlight cameras tickets are civil. They can't collect them unless you let them. It's just another collection company trying to collect. How much do you think a collection company will spend when they only get about half of the ticket if they collect? Just ignore the tickets and they will get tired of spending postage to harass you and will give up and all if forgot.

In the words of Nancy Reagan "Just Say No"!
Whois J Gault

Reynoldsburg, OH

#44 Aug 24, 2011
Ever since the Brice and Tussing cameras were installed I have been receiving interference to an AM radio station at 1270KHz I like to listen to on my commute. Its very wide and very powerful jamming. If the new cameras are causing this they should be REMOVED! Just my two coppers.
Justice server

United States

#45 Aug 24, 2011
Whois J Gault wrote:
Ever since the Brice and Tussing cameras were installed I have been receiving interference to an AM radio station at 1270KHz I like to listen to on my commute. Its very wide and very powerful jamming. If the new cameras are causing this they should be REMOVED! Just my two coppers.
Want to barrow my plasma cutter? The post they are mounted on is aluminium I think. Should fetch some cash at the scrap yards
i am not paying 1

Columbus, OH

#46 Feb 16, 2012
my daughter got to redlight tickets in my car - not my fault and I'm not paying. We went to lancaster/reynoldsburg/new albany road and broad street and watched as 5 different people stopped and then turned right on red and the camera flashed. Hmmm.... what a scam!!!
sidekick

Westerville, OH

#47 Feb 16, 2012
i am not paying 1 wrote:
my daughter got to redlight tickets in my car - not my fault and I'm not paying. We went to lancaster/reynoldsburg/new albany road and broad street and watched as 5 different people stopped and then turned right on red and the camera flashed. Hmmm.... what a scam!!!
For one..The camera's are motion sensored. I read that they scrap a lot of photos due to "legal" right turn on red pictures. I'm not agreeing to the use of these prostituted pole workers, but i also can't stand an idiot driver that thinks he/she is above the law. I bet your daughter didn't get the ticket for turning right on red (did she?), because you "can" turn on red at all directions there. Or she made the ole California stop maneuver. And last but not least, you are responsible for your daughters move in your vehicle up to a point, if not all.(what if the brakes went out?) So...fight it, if you believe you got scammed. The odds are against you.
I know of a good lawyer/insurance/ guy in that area..Just leave your name and number with the Speedway clerk or next to the coffee pot. GOOD LUCK{/; >P

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#48 Feb 16, 2012
sidekick wrote:
<quoted text>

I know of a good lawyer/insurance/ guy in that area..Just leave your name and number with the Speedway clerk or next to the coffee pot. GOOD LUCK{/; >P
Rolling, thanks for the laugh. You forgot to add he is also a cyclist and a construction worker. Quite a resume. You also forgot to advise her that if she has any young boys in her family, leave them at home.

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