“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#42 Sep 8, 2013
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> true cost of living is cheaper there. The only difference between me and anybody else losing their job is the federal government isn't giving me money to move there like they do huge corporations. Small businesses don't get anything if they move south as far as the cost to move.
Say what? Who is given whom money?

Most corps go after state or local tax breaks. Look into what happened to NCR when it moved from Dayton to Georgia (outside Atlanta). State of Georgia gave NCR all kinds of incentives to move there, not the federal government. Boatloads of folks, many with years of experience and probably highly skilled and employable lost their jobs if they didn't want to move to the Atlanta region. Dayton lost one of its largest employers because it couldn't or wouldn't provide incentive for NCR to remain.
Yep

Aiken, SC

#43 Sep 8, 2013
Pr Jonah wrote:
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lololol.
So. The corporation left what they considered their best workers in the Columbus office. In particular, there was their one super worker...we'll call her Betty. Betty does the work of three people and everyone knows it. It's how Betty keeps a job. She's smart, and knows how things work...and how they don't work.
So. Anyway. One thing the corporation did not apparently figure on was that news of their dastardly acts would soon hit the grapevine of their Columbus competitors. Fired people apply for jobs elsewhere. Who knew? So, when the competitors get wind of how stupid their competitor was, well guess what? Do they hire the info-leaking job applicants? Not so much. But, they do get a hankering to go head-hunting for the "good" employees at the stupid corporation because...you know...they're under a little stress. lol. So, guess who they call? Oh yeah, they head hunt Betty. And, Betty says in a heartbeat: "I'm yours."
So. Then Betty marches right down to the boss's office and slaps an immediate resignation on the desk. The boss cries and hollers like a stuck pick: HOW CAN YOU DO THIS TO ME? Then the boss wines and gorvels and begs for two weeks notice. No. Betty don't play. The Boss then hollers a bunch of emotional blather about how Betty is now terminated for "job abandonment". Betty then quotes the Boss the corporation handbook and the Ohio Revised Code...
....you see...when when a state is an AT WILL state...the will cuts both ways.
Whah, whah, whah Stupid Corporation.
You live by the sword. You die by the sword.
I know. It's so unfair.
Yep. Did the same thing to my last employer. Let my boss go through my performance review and tell me how great I am and how much of an asset I am and then at the end shaft me out of a raise. So I handed my resignation in at that same meeting. No two weeks. If I'm so little to the company then they won't miss me and the two weeks won't matter.

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#44 Sep 8, 2013
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> true cost of living is cheaper there. The only difference between me and anybody else losing their job is the federal government isn't giving me money to move there like they do huge corporations. Small businesses don't get anything if they move south as far as the cost to move.
On the other side of the coin, I was offered a job in the same line of work in a small South Carolina town a few years ago, went and talked to management in person. Nice people, but the pay, insurance and retirement program sucked, housing and grocery prices were about the same as in this area. In right to work states, they can get by with low pay because there isn't another employer down the road who is paying more. Needless to say, I stayed where I was.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#45 Sep 8, 2013
As far as I'm concerned, this is a huge problem these days. They are expecting people to work for nothing. I wish unions weren't as corrupt as they are, because I do think people are getting taken advantage of these days.

Power costs also run higher down south since the AC runs more. Housing probably costs less down there because their building codes are more lax than they are here. I think I read somewhere where housing costs 20% less in Indy because of that ... But then again, Indy is kind of ugly to me. There's no free lunch.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#46 Sep 8, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
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So. Do like Betty, network the hell out of yourself continually and you will find a decreased chance of being in a pickle?
LOLOLOL....not saying you'll never have difficulty, but there are certain activities that tend to increase your marketability and your hire-ability. Bitching and whining about "corporations" isn't a productive activity. Learn the lesson, move on, tighten your belt financially. Yeah, I know. That's unfair, but it's the lesson life handed me. Have overcome, persisted, and moved on a couple of times.
I'm not certain we can say "stupid" corporation when, in fact, it hired you and it paid you. Not so black and white. It goes both ways. Need to deal with that fact...
Reading is not your talent.

Anyway, the story I learned in the confessional got more intricate. The Stupid Corporation's original idea was to downsize and reconfigure its product in a few months. They knew they would lose customers, but they wanted that to happen just naturally as the customers figured out that the quality of customer service was going down. Problem was, the Stupid Corporation had contracts with these customers that stipulated certain customer service the Stupid Corporation was supposed to provide...and now couldn't because they fired so many people. So. The strategy was to keep the downsizing a secret, lolololol....because it did constitute a breaking of many contracts. But ooops, one of the remaining employees in the office...let's call her Wilma, let the cat out the bag in an email...she was tired and not fully thinking about ramifications. Well, the crap hit the fan at Corporate in about an hour and then everyone went nuts...so Stupid Corporation's solution to the problem was to tell a bigger lie that yes indeed they would fulfill their customer service contracts with the remaining zombie workers in the Columbus office.

Meanwhile, after Betty quit, one of the people who got fired...let's call her Ethel...gets a call from her old Boss. Boss is BEGGING Ethel to come back to her old job. So, what does Ethel do? She calls Betty...her old friend. lololol. "Hey, Betty...what the hell is going on back at the old office???" So....Betty talks to Ethel a long long long time. And, guess what? For some reason or another, Boss can't even get Ethel to come back.

Meanwhile, in various other calls among present and former grunts...all agree...the Columbus office is going to go down the crapper. And none of them give a sh!t.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#47 Sep 9, 2013
Pr Jonah wrote:
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...Meanwhile, in various other calls among present and former grunts...all agree...the Columbus office is going to go down the crapper. And none of them give a sh!t.
Good for them.
They're moving on, as they should.
They cannot kill a Spook

Chicago, IL

#48 Sep 9, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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This relates to the 2004 Civic you were talking about. My parents, grandparents, uncles, etc. ALWAYS paid cash for their cars and, because of this, practically ALWAYS kept their cars a very long time.
I laugh sometimes when I see the sticker prices on cars these days because I wonder how many people would actually buy what they are driving if they had to write out a $40,000 check at the time of purchase.
But for some reason people don't mind the $400 or $600 a month they pay though.
I pay cash for vehicles. Only way I would consider payments is after getting the price down to what I am willing to pay the manufacturer will still go with a zero percent loan. At todays interest rates on used vehicles people have to be nuts not to pay cash. New has some low rates but still pay cash.
Enzyte Bob

United States

#49 Sep 9, 2013
I don't care about the zero interest and I don't like payments because I believe in making my life as simple as possible.

I wrote a $28,000 check the last time I bought a car and I couldn't sleep for several days. Forcing yourself to write out a check really focuses the mind ... Which explains why I'm still driving the same car after almost 12 years.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#50 Sep 9, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
I don't care about the zero interest and I don't like payments because I believe in making my life as simple as possible.
I wrote a $28,000 check the last time I bought a car and I couldn't sleep for several days. Forcing yourself to write out a check really focuses the mind ... Which explains why I'm still driving the same car after almost 12 years.
Make payments on 0% while your savings earn the payments.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#51 Sep 9, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
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I totally agree.Kids live what they learn.
With ins skyrocketing, companies want to pay out less, so that's why they want the younger crowd in. The turnover is much greater than years ago. They don't want to pay pensions, Ins, etc. anymore.
People used to start at a co and be there foreer...not anymore. They either " downsize" or find a reason for dismissal, for a person nearing retirement..it's the great American screw.
I'm not sure most people want to stay with a company forever. One of the reasons I chose my specific profession was because I can move around and work for different companies and different industries. I'm on the fence about pensions. On one side, if you have a labor-intensive job that sucks the life out of you for 30 years, I agree that a person should live out their last years in relaxation. I also understand that it's killing a lot of industries. No system is perfect, though.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#52 Sep 9, 2013
Real Tea Party wrote:
I can see the benefit of a worker with 5-10, even 15 years of experience so it costs less to train them over a rookie so to speak. But someone who is over 50 yr old and pay him more than a guy with 10-15 does not make business sense. There is no significant improvement on experience after 10 years really on any skill trade. Plus they get sick and less healthier so the premium goes up on employer.
Nothing personal, just business. Some of these baby boomers take things for granted think they own our tax because they have 30 years of work, blah blah blah. Imagine in the NFL if we pay players based on their age rather than their skills, who does that?
I don't think that's necessarily true. I think having years of experience can be beneficial in many industries, provided they also keep up on new skills. Nursing comes to mind. I surely would prefer a nurse with 20 years of experience than one with five.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#53 Sep 9, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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I still buy things with cash. Can't understand why people buy lunch with a debit card.
Probably because that's where their paycheck is deposited.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#54 Sep 9, 2013
Real Tea Party wrote:
I can see the benefit of a worker with 5-10, even 15 years of experience so it costs less to train them over a rookie so to speak. But someone who is over 50 yr old and pay him more than a guy with 10-15 does not make business sense. There is no significant improvement on experience after 10 years really on any skill trade. Plus they get sick and less healthier so the premium goes up on employer.
Nothing personal, just business. Some of these baby boomers take things for granted think they own our tax because they have 30 years of work, blah blah blah. Imagine in the NFL if we pay players based on their age rather than their skills, who does that?
The military.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#55 Sep 9, 2013
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> no shyte Sherlock! After you file for unemployment. And good luck finding one that won't be gone in another couple of years. The federal government does give corporations some corporate welfare $ to stay in the states. The problem is they pay them to move south to the "right to work states" which have lower wages.
The bigger picture is that there are more workers for fewer jobs. Supply and demand. High supply equals low price (or wage). The only thing you can ultimately do is compete on VALUE. If you are better for the same money, you will find a way to get the job.

Since: Jun 13

Hilliard, OH

#56 Sep 9, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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The military.
And state governments. And school districts.
Walt

United States

#58 Sep 9, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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I still buy things with cash. Can't understand why people buy lunch with a debit card.
you get lunch at the nursing home George... Who are you trying to sh@t?
Walt

United States

#59 Sep 9, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
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On the other side of the coin, I was offered a job in the same line of work in a small South Carolina town a few years ago, went and talked to management in person. Nice people, but the pay, insurance and retirement program sucked, housing and grocery prices were about the same as in this area. In right to work states, they can get by with low pay because there isn't another employer down the road who is paying more. Needless to say, I stayed where I was.
this must have been before you become a failed school teacher and a cripple in a nursing home...
Walt

United States

#60 Sep 9, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
I don't care about the zero interest and I don't like payments because I believe in making my life as simple as possible.
I wrote a $28,000 check the last time I bought a car and I couldn't sleep for several days. Forcing yourself to write out a check really focuses the mind ... Which explains why I'm still driving the same car after almost 12 years.
listen to this fln crippled idiot LIE. really George????
Enzyte Bob

Reynoldsburg, OH

#61 Sep 9, 2013
Walt wrote:
<quoted text>you get lunch at the nursing home George... Who are you trying to sh@t?
Well, it's better than what you did pedo.

You tried to "eat" something from a middle school and you got five years' probation.

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#62 Sep 9, 2013
So, then it got worse.

You see, part of the The Stupid Corporation restructuring "plan" was that the Columbus office boss would be elevated to a regional boss over several states. But....now, that the Columbus office is melting down by the second, uh...that promotion doesn't look so sure. ooops.

If they had only been able to keep Betty...

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