Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#585 Feb 21, 2013
Spookhere F trolls wrote:
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Then read aomething else. Better yet try suicide it worked for that socialist anti armed citizen Hitler.
You're quite an ugly person inside, aren't you? It must be an awful thing to live with every day.

woof

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#586 Feb 21, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Nice research, Bobby-O. I took the liberty of pasting this from the article:
"The exact time when the fetus becomes 'animated' has no practical significance as far as the morality of abortion is concerned. By any theory of 'animation,' abortion is gravely wrong. Why so? Because every direct abortion is a sin of murder by intent. It is, to say the least, probable that every developing fetus is a human being. To deliberately kill what is probably human is murder."
Like I said, it's all black and white, no gray area that I see.
Yep--that's Catholocism for you.
Spookhere F trolls

United States

#587 Feb 21, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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You're quite an ugly person inside, aren't you? It must be an awful thing to live with every day.
woof
I am fine being a pro homosexual pedophile, anti armed citizen like yourself must be hard to live with hence your fear of inanimate objects and hatred of those who are self sufficient yet love of a homosexual Kenyan half breed leaving blood and $h1t traila all over the white house.

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#588 Feb 21, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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I Corinthians 5:11-13
But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler -- not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. "Purge the evil person from among you."
Here is an interesting discussion of 1 Corinthians: http://www.myvoiceinthewilderness.com/bible-s... . Sorry I cannot cut and paste, the page doesn't allow it.

However, it makes the point that the distinction between a "carnal believer" and a non-believer is not always obvious and that any Christian is fully capable of the full range of sins committed by non-believers. Further, the context of Corinth was one is which large Temples sponsored great numbers of prostitutes who were also regarded as priestesses by the followers of Greek religions. So there is a clear entanglement of the surrounding popular culture, sexuality and religious belief.

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#589 Feb 21, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You misread what he wrote. He wrote that YOU can't be true to Christianity if YOU don't follow its tenets. THEY can be.
Ain't it the truth!

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#590 Feb 21, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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You can also look at TonyD's post 517 and E Bob's 520.
I cannot imagine any church supporting abortion, or 'reproductive choice' in the form of abortion. Not one I would sit a moment in. You're right. And also with 'love the sinner, hate the sin'
But you know Twister. She's right and we are all wrong. Oh, and I 'imagine' life, past and present.
The church, and Christianity, supports people, recognizing the difficulty humans face on a daily basis and nurturing their ability to call on their God in times of conflict and sorrow to discern rightful decisions--frequently when no paths appear to be "good."

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#591 Feb 21, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
I mean, one second there's preachin and hollerin about Jesus and quotin the Bible and frownin on abortion and savin the babies and all o that and the next thing ya know, right out of the blue they're talkin about fistin and pitchin and catchin, and then there's racist slurs and chucklin howlin about the miseries of others and I just get so confused by it all, my head just spins.
But I guess its a free country ya know, and everybody's got a right to practice their own religion the way they see fit.
It sure is quite a spectacle though.
woof
I apologise for the sorry state of Christianity.

But, at best we remain human--not that I would argue that some of the folks you are citing are among the best.

However, we are easily led astray, with one of the most overwrought examples being the sex scandals in the Catholic Church. I do believe that it is possible for even the most learned, committed and contemplative of groups can err, and err very seriously, when faced with such things as a loss of power, public admission of sin or simply the difficult confrontation of serious wrong-doing amongst one's peers.

If you are a praying sort, please pray for us all. We need it.

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#592 Feb 21, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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On the subject of Methodists I believe you lead readers astray:
"The United Methodist Church at its convention in Tampa, Fla., on Thursday voted against changing long-contested language in its book of laws and doctrines that calls homosexuality “incompatible with Christian teaching.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/04/us/methodis...
You have a nice day, too!
I stand corrected.

However, I will point out that many Methodist congregations are very staunchly open and affirming. And a good many sport the label of "Open Hearts, Open Minds."

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#593 Feb 21, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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it is closed.
way to stay current skimmer.
No kidding. And recalls where I first encountered Wait What.

She was very active in driving it out of Worthington.

And maybe this is why she is so down on churches/Christianity. Just a guess.

But, I don't quite see the relevance to the current discussion.

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#594 Feb 21, 2013
Spookhere F trolls wrote:
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I am fine being a pro homosexual pedophile, anti armed citizen like yourself must be hard to live with hence your fear of inanimate objects and hatred of those who are self sufficient yet love of a homosexual Kenyan half breed leaving blood and $h1t traila all over the white house.
Wow.

Been drinking?
Racer93

Westerville, OH

#595 Feb 21, 2013
What it boils down to is if the minimum wage goes up, less kids will be working. So longer wait times at fast food and you will be bagging your own groceries.
People that make minimum wage make up what percentage of people working?
The only thing raising it will do is cause expenses to businesses and high school kids won't be able to get jobs.

REALLY, who voted for this CLOWN?
Spookhere F trolls

United States

#596 Feb 21, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Wow.
Been drinking?
No just bad grammar. I am educated in Engineering Physics Mathematics never claimed to be a grammarian.

Have been working a special solution in my lab.

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#597 Feb 21, 2013
Racer93 wrote:
What it boils down to is if the minimum wage goes up, less kids will be working. So longer wait times at fast food and you will be bagging your own groceries.
People that make minimum wage make up what percentage of people working?
The only thing raising it will do is cause expenses to businesses and high school kids won't be able to get jobs.
REALLY, who voted for this CLOWN?
We have a problem, which is a widening gap between earners at the bottom and earners at the top (with stagnant wages in the middle despite an escalating cost of living). As a result we have increasing percentages of the population (particularly children) living in poverty--many of whom are dependent on government supports on a regular basis.

So--what sorts of solutions do you recommend?
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#598 Feb 21, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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No kidding. And recalls where I first encountered Wait What.
She was very active in driving it out of Worthington.
And maybe this is why she is so down on churches/Christianity. Just a guess.
But, I don't quite see the relevance to the current discussion.
I replied to you.

so you are saving your discussion was irrelevant?

I concur.
True Speak

Columbus, OH

#599 Feb 21, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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We have a problem, which is a widening gap between earners at the bottom and earners at the top (with stagnant wages in the middle despite an escalating cost of living). As a result we have increasing percentages of the population (particularly children) living in poverty--many of whom are dependent on government supports on a regular basis.
So--what sorts of solutions do you recommend?
send all Illegals back to homeland, send all refugees back, and all black people to their homeland if unemployed and not a student.

ends all slave talk, and ends 80% of crimes committed; and cuts welfare by 70%

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#600 Feb 21, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Here is an interesting discussion of 1 Corinthians: http://www.myvoiceinthewilderness.com/bible-s... . Sorry I cannot cut and paste, the page doesn't allow it.
However, it makes the point that the distinction between a "carnal believer" and a non-believer is not always obvious and that any Christian is fully capable of the full range of sins committed by non-believers. Further, the context of Corinth was one is which large Temples sponsored great numbers of prostitutes who were also regarded as priestesses by the followers of Greek religions. So there is a clear entanglement of the surrounding popular culture, sexuality and religious belief.
Not interested in the Progressives' Revised Version of the Formerly Holy Scriptures.

Repentance is a turning from sin -- not an affirmation of it.

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#601 Feb 21, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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I apologise for the sorry state of Christianity....
That's rich.

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#602 Feb 21, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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I stand corrected.
However, I will point out that many Methodist congregations are very staunchly open and affirming. And a good many sport the label of "Open Hearts, Open Minds."
A good many open minds need to be closed for repairs.
Spookhere F trolls

United States

#603 Feb 21, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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A good many open minds need to be closed for repairs.
And cleaned.

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#604 Feb 21, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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The church, and Christianity, supports people, recognizing the difficulty humans face on a daily basis and nurturing their ability to call on their God in times of conflict and sorrow to discern rightful decisions--frequently when no paths appear to be "good."
That's manmade propaganda, Reader. You can always find something or someone to agree with you. But you know, deep in your heart, that no Christian believes that abortion is not murder.

You are going to keep this mindset to promote your beliefs, fine. But do not keep trying to convince the rest of us that what you promote and condone is approved by God.

99% of the time, abortion begins with the sin of adultery and ends with the sin of murder.

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