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Conservative

Greenville, OH

#22 Sep 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Earth to tip.
I wouldn't call the President's statement prior to the attacks (in response to demonstrations) an apology. He made clear that the US government does not endorse the views expressed, reiterating that the US believes (officially) in respect for religious viewpoints.
Now, apparently the group in Libya who launched the attack used the protest as a deliberate cover. This made it look to all the world that the attacks were a part of the protests. There was also an initial lack of information with regard to the film and the film-maker. Early reports found that Terry Jones has been associated with showing the film and scheduled an anti-Islam event (more provocation) for his 9 11 celebration.
All of this confusion is good reason for a measured response that takes time to understand what is happening before going off half-cocked, and particularly in using the incident for political gain within this country.
But, you cannot go around demanding immediate action at the same time you want complete accuracy. The truth is never as simple as you want it to be.
What did obama know? He made the statement prior? Why? If he knew, he is culpable as those who murdered and this should be investigated to the highest levels.

You are as simple as you want to be.
tip

United States

#23 Sep 12, 2012
Oliver wrote:
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Attacking an embassay and killing an ambassador is a clear act of war. Muslims were seen carrying the body of the ambassador in celebration just like the Somalis dragged the bodies of our soldiers through the streets of Mogidishu.
It is time for action against the Governments who allowed these attacks. Obama has already said he will not defend America from a nuclear attack on American soil and this is another example of Obama violating his oath of office as (so called) Commander in Chief.
Acts of war were committed on September 11th and those acts cannot be ignored by cowardly and traitorous liberals and progressives.
Like her idol, Obama, Reader views Muslims as victims.
And victims are never guilty.

The rest of us are.
It is appalling.

Henry Jefferson

Since: Aug 12

Hilliard, OH

#24 Sep 12, 2012
According to the White House calendar, there is no public record of President Barack Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing--known as the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB)--in the week leading up to the attacks on the U.S. embassy in Cairo and the murder of U.S. Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and three American members of his staff.

The last time prior to the slayings that the White House calendar publicly confirms Mr. Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing was September 5th.(The White House did not provide an official public calendar for September 8-10.) Mr. Obama and Vice President Joe Biden met with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta at 5:00 p.m. yesterday.

According to a recent study by the Government Accountability Institute, Mr. Obama has only attended 43.8 percent of his Presidential Daily Briefs in the first 1,225 days of his Administration.

The White House responded by claiming that President Obama reads daily intelligence reports, even if he does not attend the briefings personally.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/12...

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#25 Sep 12, 2012
Oliver wrote:
<quoted text>
Attacking an embassay and killing an ambassador is a clear act of war. Muslims were seen carrying the body of the ambassador in celebration just like the Somalis dragged the bodies of our soldiers through the streets of Mogidishu.
It is time for action against the Governments who allowed these attacks. Obama has already said he will not defend America from a nuclear attack on American soil and this is another example of Obama violating his oath of office as (so called) Commander in Chief.
Acts of war were committed on September 11th and those acts cannot be ignored by cowardly and traitorous liberals and progressives.
I don't know where you are getting your information, but I believe that it was reported that Libyans took the ambassador to a health care facility, where he was treated (unsuccessfully) by Libyans who did not realize yet who he was.

And insofar as what you believe the President said about defending a nuclear attack on American soil--I am not even going to dignify that by asking you for a source.
tip

United States

#26 Sep 12, 2012
Conservative wrote:
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What did obama know? He made the statement prior? Why? If he knew, he is culpable as those who murdered and this should be investigated to the highest levels.
You are as simple as you want to be.
Exactly.

I am convinced the administration is the party guilty of scapegoating what amounts to real Muslim anger against Obama toward an unknown Jewish movie producer whose little-known film was released well prior to 9/11/12.

For Leftists, it kills two birds with one stone:
Protect Obama. Blame Jews.

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#27 Sep 12, 2012
Conservative wrote:
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What did obama know? He made the statement prior? Why? If he knew, he is culpable as those who murdered and this should be investigated to the highest levels.
You are as simple as you want to be.
The statement, issued by the Egyptian Embassy was a statement affirming American respect for people of various religious beliefs and condemning those who abuse the freedom of speech to disrespect other's religious beliefs.

This was intended as a statement to those who were protesting at the embassy.

Romney took this statement and claimed that it was Obama's response (calling it an apology) to the attack on the Libyan Embassy.

Factually wrong on many counts.

And frankly inappropriate.

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#28 Sep 12, 2012
tip wrote:
<quoted text>
Like her idol, Obama, Reader views Muslims as victims.
And victims are never guilty.
The rest of us are.
It is appalling.
tip, how about you stick to expressing your own views.

I am quite capable of explaining myself. You get it wrong.
tip

United States

#29 Sep 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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I don't know where you are getting your information, but I believe that it was reported that Libyans took the ambassador to a health care facility, where he was treated (unsuccessfully) by Libyans who did not realize yet who he was.
And insofar as what you believe the President said about defending a nuclear attack on American soil--I am not even going to dignify that by asking you for a source.
Because caring, pro-American Libyans would drag the obviously-dead ambassador through the streets to the hospital for help. Uh-huh.

You may ingest Hillary and Barack's BS freely.
Rational Americans who have eyes to see the photographic record will not.
tip

United States

#30 Sep 12, 2012
Henry Jefferson wrote:
According to the White House calendar, there is no public record of President Barack Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing--known as the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB)--in the week leading up to the attacks on the U.S. embassy in Cairo and the murder of U.S. Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and three American members of his staff.
The last time prior to the slayings that the White House calendar publicly confirms Mr. Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing was September 5th.(The White House did not provide an official public calendar for September 8-10.) Mr. Obama and Vice President Joe Biden met with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta at 5:00 p.m. yesterday.
According to a recent study by the Government Accountability Institute, Mr. Obama has only attended 43.8 percent of his Presidential Daily Briefs in the first 1,225 days of his Administration.
The White House responded by claiming that President Obama reads daily intelligence reports, even if he does not attend the briefings personally.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/12...
Plausible deniability with regard to foreknowledge.
tip

United States

#31 Sep 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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tip, how about you stick to expressing your own views.
I am quite capable of explaining myself. You get it wrong.
Amusing statement from the resident know-it-all, who...even now...attempts to reinterpret news reports and photographic evidence so as to protect the Traitor-in-Chief, Best Friend and Funder of the Muslim Brotherhood.

If you're capable of interpeting news for all of us...then I'm capable of interpreting your views.

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#32 Sep 12, 2012
tip wrote:
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Because caring, pro-American Libyans would drag the obviously-dead ambassador through the streets to the hospital for help. Uh-huh.
You may ingest Hillary and Barack's BS freely.
Rational Americans who have eyes to see the photographic record will not.
Well, this comes from Reuters, as reported by the BBC:

""The American ambassador and three staff members were killed when gunmen fired rockets in their direction," a Libyan official in Benghazi told Reuters news agency.

The Libyan doctor who treated Mr Stevens in hospital said he had died of severe asphyxiation, apparently from smoke inhalation, with no other injuries, and that he had tried for 90 minutes to revive him.

He was the only American brought into the Benghazi Medical Centre and initially nobody realised he was the ambassador, Ziad Abu Zeid told the Associated Press news agency. "

So, what is the source of your information? And precisely what IS your information?
NObama

Chillicothe, OH

#33 Sep 12, 2012
Interesting is that they were mere protests, a relatively common occurrence at Embassies world-wide, until Obama made his statement disavowing The Egyptian Embassy's attempt at an apology.

Consider the statement

"The United States Embassy in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions"

Seems to be condemning the filmmaker.

The subsequent statement by the White House, "The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government," could be construed (especially given that translations are often not perfect) as "we do NOT condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions"

It may turn out that the change from a protest to an attack was precipitated by the White House statement.

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#34 Sep 12, 2012
tip wrote:
<quoted text>
Amusing statement from the resident know-it-all, who...even now...attempts to reinterpret news reports and photographic evidence so as to protect the Traitor-in-Chief, Best Friend and Funder of the Muslim Brotherhood.
If you're capable of interpeting news for all of us...then I'm capable of interpreting your views.
And your news reports and photographic evidence are where?
QWA

Akron, OH

#35 Sep 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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If he made a film deliberately to provoke--as he said--then congratulations, he provoked.
That is not an endorsement of the killers.
Individual responsibility, only those who killed the ambassador are responsible for his death.

You endorsed the killers by excusing them because they were provoked.

Adults don't act like packs of dogs.
QWA

Akron, OH

#36 Sep 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
The statement, issued by the Egyptian Embassy was a statement affirming American respect for people of various religious beliefs and condemning those who abuse the freedom of speech to disrespect other's religious beliefs.
This was intended as a statement to those who were protesting at the embassy.
Romney took this statement and claimed that it was Obama's response (calling it an apology) to the attack on the Libyan Embassy.
Factually wrong on many counts.
And frankly inappropriate.
Not in that statement was respect for FREEDOM OF SPEECH
tip

United States

#37 Sep 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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And your news reports and photographic evidence are where?
All over this forum are links to reports/photos of the events in Benghazi, indicating they are not related to the irrelevant movie...and clearly showing the Ambassador being dragged through the streets...dead.

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#38 Sep 12, 2012
QWA wrote:
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Individual responsibility, only those who killed the ambassador are responsible for his death.
You endorsed the killers by excusing them because they were provoked.
Adults don't act like packs of dogs.
You are gonna believe what you wanna believe. But I challenge you to find a single statement of mine excusing the killers for ANY reason.

On thing that is emerging here is that there are lots of players.

Some folks want to see this as a single incident of Egypto-Libyan-Muslim intent aimed squarely at the United States. And because the President has not yet declared war on the entire Egypto-Libyan-Muslim world, he must not be on our side.

We are dealing with two completely separate countries, with each having multiple factions jockeying for power.

Now, frankly, we could easily do without provocative anti-Muslim film-makers, Quran-burning preachers and rabble who think it's somehow patriotic to disrespect the President. They all have rights and most likely they will continue doing what they do. But I cannot see how they are helping anything at all.

Now then, as regards the group--whoever they may be--who assaulted the American Embassy in Libya, killing the Ambassador and three other Americans--let me state plainly the obvious. They were wrong. Their actions absolutely constitute an attack against our nation. Now then--do they represent Libya as a whole, the official government or any other recognized groups? I have no idea--but from what I was hearing this morning, I think not. Would an attack on Libya be an appropriate response? I do not know. I would expect that there are a whole bunch of American intelligence folks working on stuff like that right now.

I also know that whether you like the man, or trust the man or not, the one person legally entrusted with making those kinds of decisions is our President, Barack Obama. I ask that you pray for him as I prayed for George W. Bush--a President that I did not like nor agree much with--when he was faced with similar challenges.

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#39 Sep 12, 2012
tip wrote:
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All over this forum are links to reports/photos of the events in Benghazi, indicating they are not related to the irrelevant movie...and clearly showing the Ambassador being dragged through the streets...dead.
Well, I googled. I saw the picture, which seems to be consistent with this report:

A graphic picture has emerged online of Libyan civilians holding the unconscious body of Chris Stevens, the US ambassador who was one of four diplomatic staff killed during an attack on the American consulate in Benghazi.

The picture appears to show the civilians dragging Stevens through the streets in search of help, after the attack which ultimately killed him as well as three other staff, including information management officer Sean Smith.

President Barack Obama confirmed that the men in Benghazi were trying to find medical help for Stevens. Some Libyans stood in defence of the ambassador and "carried his body to the hospital", said the president later.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/383477/2012...
tip

United States

#40 Sep 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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...I ask that you pray for him as I prayed for George W. Bush--a President that I did not like nor agree much with--when he was faced with similar challenges.
Apparently, your Mother-God did not rain down hellfire upon him as you prayed.
Frankly, I don't think she hears your prayers for the Islamophile either.
tip

United States

#41 Sep 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I googled. I saw the picture, which seems to be consistent with this report:
A graphic picture has emerged online of Libyan civilians holding the unconscious body of Chris Stevens, the US ambassador who was one of four diplomatic staff killed during an attack on the American consulate in Benghazi.
The picture appears to show the civilians dragging Stevens through the streets in search of help, after the attack which ultimately killed him as well as three other staff, including information management officer Sean Smith.
President Barack Obama confirmed that the men in Benghazi were trying to find medical help for Stevens. Some Libyans stood in defence of the ambassador and "carried his body to the hospital", said the president later.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/383477/2012...
That you can view that photo and believe they were trying to "help" an obviously dead man is beyond comprehension.

There were enough onlookers to lift & carry the Ambassador's body properly.
But they did not.

Instead, they took photos.
Trophies.

Peddle your tripe elsewhere.

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