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WiseAmerican

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#190 Sep 15, 2012
Pr Jonah wrote:
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There is no such thing as OT Law.
Torah is ongoing Jewish legal tradition. The Old Testatment contains SOME of that legal tradition, but not ALL of it. Then, it is important to point out that legal traditions are revised repeatedly over time...in order to keep the original spirit of a legal concern applicable to a current stituation.
For example, Jesus would assert his own revision of Torah...in the context of that being a normal Jewish thing to do in response to current needs.
Consider the Divorce text of Mark 10. Here, Jesus argued for a MORE STRICT revision on the issue of divorce, and his position is stated in the context of normal Jewish debate about Torah and precident positions in the legal tradition.
Was Jesus discarding or overthrowing the Torah? No. He was simply acting well within the legal tradition of Torah, and stating a position on a topic that was hotly debated in that time.
Tip is wrong in assuming that Torah is fixed for all time, and that OT or any other Jewish part of Torah is not a part of Jesus' positions.
Reader is wrong to simply point to a verse in the OT ignoring that the OT has the overall Torah quality of revisionism over time.(It should not then be a shock that the same dynmaic occurs in Islam which is why you have peaceful Muslims.)
The human reality is that human sin can go find the war material it wants just about anywhere...if you're going to cherry pick and frame certain texts so as to block out the big picture of how things have actually historically developed or degraded.
Spot on Jonah! Radicals on BOTH sides of the respective dogmas are the ones that are carrying out the plans of the 'Illuminated Ones" unbeknowing that they're being used. Notice throughout man's history, it's always been a fight started by the "Top", and fought for by the bottom 95%. The domination of this world and the CONTROL over the natural resources has always been the cause of wars. Religion is used by those in control to keep the extremist fired up and occupied so that the Illuminati can continue with their plans of total world manipulation and dominance.

Henry Jefferson

Since: Aug 12

Hilliard, OH

#191 Sep 15, 2012
Jimmy

Plain City, OH

#192 Sep 15, 2012
Pr Jonah wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no such thing as OT Law.
Torah is ongoing Jewish legal tradition. The Old Testatment contains SOME of that legal tradition, but not ALL of it. Then, it is important to point out that legal traditions are revised repeatedly over time...in order to keep the original spirit of a legal concern applicable to a current stituation.
For example, Jesus would assert his own revision of Torah...in the context of that being a normal Jewish thing to do in response to current needs.
Consider the Divorce text of Mark 10. Here, Jesus argued for a MORE STRICT revision on the issue of divorce, and his position is stated in the context of normal Jewish debate about Torah and precident positions in the legal tradition.
Was Jesus discarding or overthrowing the Torah? No. He was simply acting well within the legal tradition of Torah, and stating a position on a topic that was hotly debated in that time.
Tip is wrong in assuming that Torah is fixed for all time, and that OT or any other Jewish part of Torah is not a part of Jesus' positions.
Reader is wrong to simply point to a verse in the OT ignoring that the OT has the overall Torah quality of revisionism over time.(It should not then be a shock that the same dynmaic occurs in Islam which is why you have peaceful Muslims.)
The human reality is that human sin can go find the war material it wants just about anywhere...if you're going to cherry pick and frame certain texts so as to block out the big picture of how things have actually historically developed or degraded.
So says the fake alcoholic pastor who poses on this forum for attention.

Go back to your booze you drunken bum. You have zero credibility with the Word of God, you fraud.

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#193 Sep 15, 2012
WiseAmerican wrote:
<quoted text>Spot on Jonah! Radicals on BOTH sides of the respective dogmas are the ones that are carrying out the plans of the 'Illuminated Ones" unbeknowing that they're being used. Notice throughout man's history, it's always been a fight started by the "Top", and fought for by the bottom 95%. The domination of this world and the CONTROL over the natural resources has always been the cause of wars. Religion is used by those in control to keep the extremist fired up and occupied so that the Illuminati can continue with their plans of total world manipulation and dominance.
The Illuminati?????

LOL you are kidding right?

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#194 Sep 15, 2012
tip wrote:
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We are not living under the OT Law, "Christian."
Remember that historical figure named "Jesus Christ"?
If you want to live under such laws, please join the Muslims who vigorously pursue the global implementation of their 6th century laws in the 21st century.
As far as your SPLC hate-tripe goes, shove it down your ever-hateful gobhole.
You are arguing with the wrong person, tip.

The folks you want to address that argument to are the ones recruiting Coptic immigrants and others to join their Holy Army.

But--I would say that they relate to Christianity in roughly the same way that Al-Queda relates to Islam.

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#195 Sep 15, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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gk--when you jump into the middle of a conversation you are going to miss something.
When NEA funds an artist it is not just about handing money to the first yokel who waltzes in the door saying I want to make a piece of art showing Jesus in a vial of urine.
If tip wants to get NEA to fund his p_ss be upon the prophet piece, he is going to have to apply for a grant through some existing grant program and the criteria for consideration will be (or ought to be) artistic not political, or religious.
You are certainly entitled to an opinion on the matter, although I cannot for the life of me figure out what you are advocating. It sounds to me more like just being a contrarian.
No, you were arguing with tip over his "artistic credentials." Sorry, the film can be considered free speech, art, and communication. So effing what that the NEA didn't fund this artist and he doesn't have "credentials" as an artist? The NEA can screw itself because honestly--it IS a waste of money and bureaucracy in my view.

Again, you're missing the entire point. It flew over your dense head like a 747.

It sounds like to me you want to qualify everything to suit your purposes. I suggest you reflect to figure it out. You're trying to be too smart and too bureaucratic.

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#196 Sep 15, 2012
gokeefe wrote:
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No, you were arguing with tip over his "artistic credentials." Sorry, the film can be considered free speech, art, and communication. So effing what that the NEA didn't fund this artist and he doesn't have "credentials" as an artist? The NEA can screw itself because honestly--it IS a waste of money and bureaucracy in my view.
Again, you're missing the entire point. It flew over your dense head like a 747.
It sounds like to me you want to qualify everything to suit your purposes. I suggest you reflect to figure it out. You're trying to be too smart and too bureaucratic.
No--someone tried to bring in the NEA as proof that the US government endorses statements of hatred aimed at Christians (but not Muslims).

In fact, the kinds of folks who stick up for someone like Serrano getting NEA funding do so using an argument that the NEA should make selections based on artistic criteria, rather than content. And, so far as I can tell, they pretty much do so and take their lumps when someone gets honked off about it.

Therefore, if tip wants the NEA to fund his p_ss be upon the prophet project he will have to make his case using the same criteria as any other artist. Maybe he is competitive in that arena, but I rather suspect nor. Apparently you disagree.

What NEA is actually endorsing would be free speech using various art forms as the media.

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#197 Sep 15, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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No--someone tried to bring in the NEA as proof that the US government endorses statements of hatred aimed at Christians (but not Muslims).
In fact, the kinds of folks who stick up for someone like Serrano getting NEA funding do so using an argument that the NEA should make selections based on artistic criteria, rather than content. And, so far as I can tell, they pretty much do so and take their lumps when someone gets honked off about it.
Therefore, if tip wants the NEA to fund his p_ss be upon the prophet project he will have to make his case using the same criteria as any other artist. Maybe he is competitive in that arena, but I rather suspect nor. Apparently you disagree.
What NEA is actually endorsing would be free speech using various art forms as the media.
Just like you to hide behind more governmental bureaucracy.

Eff the NEA.
tip

Mcdonough, GA

#198 Sep 15, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
No--someone tried to bring in the NEA as proof that the US government endorses statements of hatred aimed at Christians (but not Muslims).
In fact, the kinds of folks who stick up for someone like Serrano getting NEA funding do so using an argument that the NEA should make selections based on artistic criteria, rather than content. And, so far as I can tell, they pretty much do so and take their lumps when someone gets honked off about it.
Therefore, if tip wants the NEA to fund his p_ss be upon the prophet project he will have to make his case using the same criteria as any other artist. Maybe he is competitive in that arena, but I rather suspect nor. Apparently you disagree.
What NEA is actually endorsing would be free speech using various art forms as the media.
Video is an art form.

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#199 Sep 15, 2012
tip wrote:
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Video is an art form.
Yes, it is.

What is your point?
tip

Mcdonough, GA

#200 Sep 15, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Yes, it is.
What is your point?
Ignorance becomes you.

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#203 Oct 11, 2012
opps.......nevermind

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#204 Oct 11, 2012
NO PROTESTS AT ALL THAT NIGHT.........

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2019...

Officials now call it a deliberate act of terrorism, and the State Department this week said there were NO protests in Benghazi that night. The level of security at the consulate was the subject of a congressional hearing Wednesday.

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#205 Oct 11, 2012
U.S. official says superiors worked against effort to boost Benghazi security

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/10/politics/congre...

Washington (CNN)-- The State Department's former point man on security in Libya told a congressional hearing Wednesday that his superiors worked against him as he tried to get more help for the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi in the months before it was overrun in a deadly terror attack.
Eric Nordstrom, the one-time regional security officer, told the House Oversight Committee that he had a disheartening conversation with the regional director of the agency's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs when he requested additional manpower for the facility.
"I said,'Jim, you know what makes it most frustrating about this assignment? It's not the hardships. It's not the gunfire. It's not the threats. It's dealing and fighting against the people, programs, and personnel who are supposed to be supporting me," Nordstrom said.

He also told the State Department officer, "'For me, the Taliban is on the inside of the building."

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#206 Oct 11, 2012
cute doggie wrote:
NO PROTESTS AT ALL THAT NIGHT.........
http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2019...
Officials now call it a deliberate act of terrorism, and the State Department this week said there were NO protests in Benghazi that night. The level of security at the consulate was the subject of a congressional hearing Wednesday.
Thanks for posting this stuff. I had been watching reports come last night that pretty much disproved the entire video story. I'm too pizzed to say much about it... spin spin spin spin from the Obama administration.

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#207 Oct 11, 2012
gokeefe wrote:
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Thanks for posting this stuff. I had been watching reports come last night that pretty much disproved the entire video story. I'm too pizzed to say much about it... spin spin spin spin from the Obama administration.
Hi Keefe....

I only re posted on this thread to point out how bullll Shyte the comments by "certain" individuals were who blamed the TERRORIST attack on a you tube trailer for a movie that does not exist were.....

As I said in my previous posts this was simply a celebration of Osama bin Laden Day .....9-11....

obama will continue to lie prior to the election to refuse that he and hilary allowed a terrorist attack to occur on their watch.......

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#208 Oct 11, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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Hi Keefe....
I only re posted on this thread to point out how bullll Shyte the comments by "certain" individuals were who blamed the TERRORIST attack on a you tube trailer for a movie that does not exist were.....
As I said in my previous posts this was simply a celebration of Osama bin Laden Day .....9-11....
obama will continue to lie prior to the election to refuse that he and hilary allowed a terrorist attack to occur on their watch.......
Good job!!!!! yes, bullsheeeeet.

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#209 Oct 11, 2012
I am more certain every day that this was supposed to be a hostage situation engineered by the administration so that Obama could pull an October surprise "rescue" or "negotiate" a release right before the third debate. It explains why Barry went to bed and slept through everything. He thought everything was going according to plan.

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#210 Oct 11, 2012
Cleavon Little wrote:
I am more certain every day that this was supposed to be a hostage situation engineered by the administration so that Obama could pull an October surprise "rescue" or "negotiate" a release right before the third debate. It explains why Barry went to bed and slept through everything. He thought everything was going according to plan.
TREASON.....pure and simple......

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#211 Oct 11, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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TREASON.....pure and simple......
Wouldn't be the first time for this administration.

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