Commentary: Stonewall Columbus Pride Parade reminiscent of a Fourth of July parade

Jun 23, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Lantern

A Pride Parade walker looks to throw bracelets at crowds that lined the street. Pride Parade, part of Stonewall Columbus Pride Festival 2013, took place June 22 on High Street.

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“Ludibrium est onus genio”

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#279 Jul 4, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Is the government always right about the definition of harm?
When it comes to creating laws, the legislators, elected by us, determine the definition of harm. It is assumed "right" unless it is found not to be by the courts.

“animis opibusque parati”

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#280 Jul 4, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Of course there was. The liberty to marry each other, which they had prior to Prop 8. There is no legitimate government interest in banning it (an identically worded initiative (proposition 22) was voted in 2000 and struck down by the state supreme court in 2008), and that will be the argument that eventually will remove these bans nation-wide.
Same-sex partners do not qualify for marriage, according to its definition.
And California voters agreed.

Nothing leaves a bad taste in Americans' mouths quite like the judicial fiat.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

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#281 Jul 4, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Same-sex partners do not qualify for marriage, according to its definition.
And California voters agreed.
And that definition was found by the courts (TWICE!) to violate gays' rights unconstitutionally.
Nothing leaves a bad taste in Americans' mouths quite like the judicial fiat.
That's why the courts exist, to resolve conflicts over whose rights are superior. It prevents the mob majority from imposing unjust laws on the minority.

Since: Apr 10

Denver, CO

#282 Jul 4, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Same-sex partners do not qualify for marriage, according to its definition.
And California voters agreed.
Nothing leaves a bad taste in Americans' mouths quite like the judicial fiat.
You just dont get it do you homophobic bigot
CIVIL RIGHTS CANNOT be voted on, and once a right is granted to a group of people it CANNOT be taken away through a vote or otherwise. The court found the ONLY reason for prop 8 was to deny rights to a minority group of people, that makes it unconstitutional. Dont give me the "marriage as always been..." Bull shit in the bible marriage is between one man and MANY women and was for property. marriage in this country was always between the same races but it was changed in the mid 20th century. now go and spout your fairy tail book sayings and Ill shoot them down with more from the bible there are hundrads of contridictions in it. hell not even the four gospels agree.

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#283 Jul 4, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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And that definition was found by the courts (TWICE!) to violate gays' rights unconstitutionally.
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That's why the courts exist, to resolve conflicts over whose rights are superior. It prevents the mob majority from imposing unjust laws on the minority.
There is no constitutional right to marriage.

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#284 Jul 4, 2013
JessicaDawn wrote:
<quoted text>You just dont get it do you homophobic bigot
CIVIL RIGHTS CANNOT be voted on, and once a right is granted to a group of people it CANNOT be taken away through a vote or otherwise. The court found the ONLY reason for prop 8 was to deny rights to a minority group of people, that makes it unconstitutional. Dont give me the "marriage as always been..." Bull shit in the bible marriage is between one man and MANY women and was for property. marriage in this country was always between the same races but it was changed in the mid 20th century. now go and spout your fairy tail book sayings and Ill shoot them down with more from the bible there are hundrads of contridictions in it. hell not even the four gospels agree.
Marriage in this country has always been between one man and one woman. Judge Walker incorrectly stated:

"The evidence shows conclusively that Proposition 8 enacts, without reason, a private moral view that same-sex couples are inferior to opposite-sex couples."

No American is saying that same-sex couples are "inferior" -- what we are saying is that they are not the same [something any 5-year old can immediately recognize], meaning they do not meet the requirements of marriage as it has been defined through the eras.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

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#285 Jul 4, 2013
JessicaDawn wrote:
<quoted text>You just dont get it do you homophobic bigot
Not sure that's warranted in THIS discussion. I don't confuse Tip's fervor with disrespect.
CIVIL RIGHTS CANNOT be voted on,
Sure they can. ANYTHING can be voted on, it's just that sometimes the result of that vote comes under challenge and the vote is overridden by the court. That's what happened with Prop 8. I can't really think of a better way to do it, unless perhaps legislative review of ballot initiatives should be provided before placing them on the ballot.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

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#286 Jul 4, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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There is no constitutional right to marriage.
Yes there is. Read the tenth amendment, then the fourteenth (Due process).
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#287 Jul 4, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Yes there is. Read the tenth amendment, then the fourteenth (Due process).
If its not in the Bible it carries no weight with Tippyhead. Fortunately, that's not the way things work here.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#288 Jul 4, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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You must be quite ignorant if you cannot note that every other aberrant human sexual behavior is defined as a paraphilia by the APA, as listed in its DSM-IV. Currently, there are 547.
Things that make sane folks go "Hmmm..."
There is only one reason that same-sex behaviors were removed from the DSM in 1973 -- and that reason is purely political.
Gay men will keep having sex with gay men as long as the world is spinning. Same for gay women.

Deal with it in a more productive manner. You'll never change it.

woof
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#289 Jul 4, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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If its not in the Bible it carries no weight with Tippyhead. Fortunately, that's not the way things work here.
woof
has since country was formed.

you are hallucinating.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#290 Jul 4, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Gay men will keep having sex with gay men as long as the world is spinning. Same for gay women.
Deal with it in a more productive manner. You'll never change it.
woof
I agree with you.

They just can't use the word marriage is all.

civil union works for the though.

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#291 Jul 4, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Gay men will keep having sex with gay men as long as the world is spinning. Same for gay women.
Deal with it in a more productive manner. You'll never change it.
woof
And the practitioners of the other 547 paraphilias will continue in their aberrant behaviors also.

There's nothing sane or productive about any of it.
You'll never change that.

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#292 Jul 4, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Yes there is. Read the tenth amendment, then the fourteenth (Due process).
Nope.
Marriage is a matter within each state's purview.
A state may -- as many have -- codify the traditional definition of marriage.

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#293 Jul 4, 2013
Behold the tolerance of the all-tolerant:

http://www.komonews.com/news/crime/Video-show...

Video shows men attacking religious protesters at Pridefest

by Michael Harthorne

A protester holding a sign reading "Repent or Else" was attacked by a group of people following a loud argument during Pridefest Sunday, according to the Seattle Police Department.

Bicycle officers heard a loud debate between two groups of people near Fourth Avenue North and Broad Street but continued on their way.

According to video shot by a witness, after officers leave the crowd continues to yell at and shove two religious protesters, one of whom is holding a sign that reads "Repent or Else" and "Jesus Saves from Sin."

At one point, the video shows a 36-year-old Marysville man taking off his shirt and threatening the sign-holding protester. The man eventually starts leaving, saying, "Cops are coming; let's roll."

After a group of women try unsuccessfully to steal the protester's sign, a group of men grab onto it and pull him to the ground while the crowd applauds. That's when the video shows the 36-year-old run back toward the fight and punch the sign-holder in the back of the head multiple times.

Officers returned to the scene after the fight was broken up and arrested the 36-year-old, who was booked into King County Jail. A 22-year-old, also from Marysville, who the video shows grabbing the protester's sign and kicking him while on the ground was arrested and later released. Both men are facing possible misdemeanor assault charges.

UPDATE: Jason Queree, the man suspected of punching the protester multiple times, has been arrested 29 times since 1995. He has been convicted or otherwise found against for nine felonies, including forgery, stolen property, unlawful firearm possession and theft, and 12 misdemeanors, including driving with a suspended license, vehicle prowl, domestic violence, assault, DUI and criminal trespass.

Watch video of the incident here. Please note the video contains profanity. The physical altercation starts around 2:20 in the video.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

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Planet Earth

#294 Jul 4, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Nope.
Marriage is a matter within each state's purview.

Simple logic. The tenth amendment amendment guarantees the liberties not enumerated in the US constitutions will be up to the states or the people. Marriage is one of those rights, therefore the US Constitution guarantees it.
The 14th applies the tenth to the states, and the due process clause applies to laws the states make, as well as the feds. Due process includes judicial scrutiny.
[QUOTE]A state may -- as many have -- codify the traditional definition of marriage.
Yep. California did so twice, and both times it was found unconstitutional (why they tried again with the exact same wording is beyond me)... It's only a matter of time now. Maybe 5 years, maybe 50, but it's coming. It's the same as Loving v Virginia. There is no legitimate government interest in denying gays the right to marry each other.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#295 Jul 4, 2013
-tip- wrote:
Behold the tolerance of the all-tolerant:
http://www.komonews.com/news/crime/Video-show...
Video shows men attacking religious protesters at Pridefest
by Michael Harthorne
A protester holding a sign reading "Repent or Else" was attacked by a group of people following a loud argument during Pridefest Sunday, according to the Seattle Police Department.
Bicycle officers heard a loud debate between two groups of people near Fourth Avenue North and Broad Street but continued on their way.
According to video shot by a witness, after officers leave the crowd continues to yell at and shove two religious protesters, one of whom is holding a sign that reads "Repent or Else" and "Jesus Saves from Sin."
At one point, the video shows a 36-year-old Marysville man taking off his shirt and threatening the sign-holding protester. The man eventually starts leaving, saying, "Cops are coming; let's roll."
After a group of women try unsuccessfully to steal the protester's sign, a group of men grab onto it and pull him to the ground while the crowd applauds. That's when the video shows the 36-year-old run back toward the fight and punch the sign-holder in the back of the head multiple times.
Officers returned to the scene after the fight was broken up and arrested the 36-year-old, who was booked into King County Jail. A 22-year-old, also from Marysville, who the video shows grabbing the protester's sign and kicking him while on the ground was arrested and later released. Both men are facing possible misdemeanor assault charges.
UPDATE: Jason Queree, the man suspected of punching the protester multiple times, has been arrested 29 times since 1995. He has been convicted or otherwise found against for nine felonies, including forgery, stolen property, unlawful firearm possession and theft, and 12 misdemeanors, including driving with a suspended license, vehicle prowl, domestic violence, assault, DUI and criminal trespass.
Watch video of the incident here. Please note the video contains profanity. The physical altercation starts around 2:20 in the video.
When you try to illustrate the mentality of an entire group with the actions of a few, you open yourself up to the same type of illustration. Some number of Protestant ministers and Catholic priests have molested minors. Is it valid to assume all Protestants and Catholics do? Of course not! Neither is your comparison.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#296 Jul 4, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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I agree with you.
They just can't use the word marriage is all.
civil union works for the though.
In 13 states they can. Soon to be 50.

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#297 Jul 4, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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You seem to be excluding lesbians in your 'research.'
Any particular reason?
Did you also exclude straight sex sites?
"Scat play" was one of the 11 sex acts listed. On no serious straight dating site will you see "playing with $hi*" on a list of preferred romantic activities.

Bell & Weinburg comprehensive study of gays found that 91% engage in anal sex.

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#298 Jul 4, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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When you try to illustrate the mentality of an entire group with the actions of a few, you open yourself up to the same type of illustration. Some number of Protestant ministers and Catholic priests have molested minors. Is it valid to assume all Protestants and Catholics do? Of course not! Neither is your comparison.
I saw that video of Seattle pride parade too.

Actions of a "few"? Try the youtube video "attacked by tolerance", where numerous gay passerbys get violent and unruly with a Christian holding a sign.

Or where they knocked down the old lady with a cross and then stomped all over the cross.

Or when they set fire with gasoline the house of the Mclhaney family in California, young kids and all, because the Preacher father was proactive in the Prop 8 case there.

Or when they threw a large brick through the window of a building hosting a conference of pro-family activists - the brick containg a piece of paper containing threats of vandalism (they took credit and admitted to it) in Illinois in 2011.

Gay "rights" people follow no standards of civility. They are brutal and militantly intolerant.

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