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Law a pain for some legitimate patients | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 170 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 10, 2011, titled Law a pain for some legitimate patients | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Andy ran out of oxycodone last week, the painkiller that eases his back pain when another medicine stops working.

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Hotel California

Columbus, OH

#145 Aug 17, 2011
anti lawyer wrote:
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They needed to do this now not later. There are not enough medical providers now let alone after Obama care kicks in. It takes 8 years of college and several years of residency to be a doctor. Obama care kicks in in 2014. More new docs in training comes out in 2027.
I don't disagree, here. I believe Obama, in his original plan, had something like this in mind. To set up operations for those on gov-sponsored health plans like gov workers, Medicare and Medicaid recipients separate and apart from the For Profit insurance system. We know how long that idea for real 'competition' endured. It was rather like a flash in the pan.

But we all know it's coming. We simply can no longer afford to let the medical system continue on as it is with billions of dollars of waste and fraud. The insurance companies don't care about waste and fraud. I contacted mine three times about getting doubled-billed. Never heard from them. All they did was raise my premiums. The more I pay, the more they make.

Here's a for instance - In England, I have what's called and treated as Pelvic Radiation Disease. This is a theory of disease that says that radiation, no matter how minute, sets up a progressive and unstoppable chains of events that lead to death. WHY is a socialized medicine country looking into the damage done by radiation while in the US its ignored as if it doesn't exist? BECAUSE they pay for it. They pay for the 'treatment' that causes the disease. One would ask, if radiation does so much damage, what's the point? According to my oncologist, it's about longevity. As long as we survive years past treatment, that's good enough. After that, we're considered 'cured' and the damage done by the treatments is attributed to something else. The two discs in my back that are completely burnt out are now called arthritis. Except that nobody seems to be able to address why I have an auto-immune disease only in my lower back and nowhere else. LOL.

Obama's original goal was to start taking a look at the efficacy of treatment which might save billions of dollars and prevent untold human suffering, and he got shot down. There's no money in keeping people healthy. If we could do that, we might not have a doctor shortage. Approaching medicine from a Standardized Care model means we'll NEVER have enough doctors, even if there's an office on every street corner.

There are seven million so-called cancer survivors on welfare. People who used to pay taxes are now sucking down the system in record numbers...these are 'medical' costs that can't even be tallied, especially if you nod in the direction of bankruptcies over medical bills.
help us

Columbus, OH

#146 Sep 1, 2011
hi how is everyone doing? Iam still doing alot of pain with my RSD
Thats wrong Right baby

Hilliard, OH

#147 Sep 2, 2011
ProBusiness wrote:
His problem is unfortunate, but the truth is that 99.999% of patients going to doctors with "back pain" are just trying to get pain pills. I would say learn other techniques to deal with pain because the rampant abuse of the synthetic morphine pills means they will, and should, become very, very difficult to obtain.
How did you come up with that ridiculous percentage rate?99.999? B.S,There are really people out there who need pain meds.I personally can't stand Doctor's.I deal with my pain through yoga and natural medicane.I'm also against the drug companies who keep kicking out what I call "rat poison".
Hotel California

Columbus, OH

#148 Sep 2, 2011
help us wrote:
hi how is everyone doing? Iam still doing alot of pain with my RSD
I've been waiting to hear from you. I'm sorry you're suffering. Stay on the docs until they get sick of hearing from you - when you make it clear that you're not only going to survive but find at least an iota of quality in life, they relent. You'll eventually get what you need. Defend the faith and in the meantime, survive. OXOX

“The Ultimate Male”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#149 Sep 2, 2011
Hotel California wrote:
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I've been waiting to hear from you. I'm sorry you're suffering. Stay on the docs until they get sick of hearing from you - when you make it clear that you're not only going to survive but find at least an iota of quality in life, they relent. You'll eventually get what you need. Defend the faith and in the meantime, survive. OXOX
"You'll eventually get what you need" when you buy some poison off this clown, an epic complainer if there ever was one. Or, head to Kentucky, the new buffet. Duh.
coup

Cincinnati, OH

#150 Sep 3, 2011
Black Lion wrote:
Less than 20% of Doctors who have been charged for prescribing pain killers have been adjudicated as "inappropriate" yet patients in pain are being turned away to suffer in silence. Government is in the exam room standing between the Dr. and the patient. Soon they will be in your bedroom acting like the condom that they are. When will you stand up and fight back.
Stand up and fight back huh? Do you mean like unions are doing? You big HYPOCRITE!
Hotel California

Columbus, OH

#152 Sep 4, 2011
The Thunderlips wrote:
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"You'll eventually get what you need" when you buy some poison off this clown, an epic complainer if there ever was one. Or, head to Kentucky, the new buffet. Duh.
WE should be forced to go out of state for medical treatment? Clearly, you haven't been forced to endure the chronic pain protocol as it exists in this state, nor have you committed suicide over it. But not to worry. There's a car accident or cancer diagnosis coming your way, Mr. Man.

Can't wait to find out how tough you really are.
help us

Columbus, OH

#153 Sep 7, 2011
Hotel California wrote:
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I've been waiting to hear from you. I'm sorry you're suffering. Stay on the docs until they get sick of hearing from you - when you make it clear that you're not only going to survive but find at least an iota of quality in life, they relent. You'll eventually get what you need. Defend the faith and in the meantime, survive. OXOX
happy to hear from you yes I stay on the drs lol i think they are going to give in a little i hope i go back next week will let you know xoxoxoo

“The Ultimate Male”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#154 Sep 7, 2011
Hotel California wrote:
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WE should be forced to go out of state for medical treatment? Clearly, you haven't been forced to endure the chronic pain protocol as it exists in this state, nor have you committed suicide over it. But not to worry. There's a car accident or cancer diagnosis coming your way, Mr. Man.
Can't wait to find out how tough you really are.
Most folks in this state use the term "chronic pain" as a pathetic excuse to abuse prescription meds. Sure, there are people with no hope to otherwise improve their condition with other medical treatment, e.g. cancer patients, and rightfully and appropriately take medications to get through the day. However, these are not the whiners and complainers who visit the pill mills after some rinky-dink car accident 8 years ago with minimal damage done. Those losers - and there are thousands of them - are, by and large, welfare-abusing pill junkies. And yes, I want that crap out of my state.
sidekick

Chillicothe, OH

#155 Sep 7, 2011
Why do they even have to put addictive ingredients in pain pills? Would they not work for not something addictive in it? Alka-Seltzer helps but not addictive. Pain pills help but so long and the need for the chemical seems more wanted after that. Look how cigaretttes help.. someone is stressed and one helps. alcohol.. someone celebrates or depressed.. Then the chemical just takes over. I know i'm clueless,nuts, etc. But, i hate how everything that makes life easier turns life harder.
ConvictionSpeake r

United States

#156 Sep 8, 2011
Hi, I would like to add my opinion to this thread because it is one which involves perpetually looking into and avoiding pain medication at all costs, in spite of my legitimate reasons which I COULD obtain Oxycodone or Opana or some of these other sorts of pain relievers. I read 6 pages of this thread. I must say that there is the emotionally invested, the idiotic, the extra sensitive to pain impulses; there is the sourkraut, the angry, as well as the flat out fed up. Here is what I think.

Pain exists. There is no denying that pain is not an imagined experience. A patient's bones will hurt, they will leave surgery in an incredible amount of pain, they fell while riding a mountain bike and a scrape warrants Hydrocodone 7.5/500. There is such variety! Let me say this. Pain exists, and the patient who is terminally ill with cancer should be given as much pain medication as they need. I am no physician, but someone ought to be provided with as many of the 80mg Oxycontins as the prescribing physician sees fit. If you are that person, you are a very rare case. You are not easy to spot because you are surrounded by people who work in area that brings about pain.

For example, why should someone who works construction be given synthetic heroin when the only reason others are not working that construction job is because the pain is involved. Can you imagine all of the people who would go nuts over what construction pays. What is the problem with construction? It beats your joints and bones to Hell! It twists up your spinal cord! It is, quite literally, "back-breaking" work.

So, we have the person who is littered with toomers being told that they, like the person who has occupational induced pain, must stop getting adequate treatment because some 20 year old idiot is wandering in to the same doctor and getting 50mg Oxycontins so that this person can snort the whole script, as well as sell them to others who wish to think they are in pain, but so obviously are not.

99.99999% of people is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It is hardly effective in terms of its exaggerative effect. It makes the person who utilizes such appalingly stupid figures sound as though that person has been living at the apex of moronic thought processes since kindergarten. Someone needs to play in the sand box again but this time, they need better instruction on how to make the Little Tikes toy make a right turn.

This debate is endless. Hydrocodone is preferred to Oxycontin but it is loaded with Tylenol. Oxycontin is dangerous and its use funds the enemy in Afghanistan as the Counter-Insurgency tries to put an end to the evil of the evil; the Axis of Evil is marketing poison to us. Yet, Florida has no computer monitoring system, which bring Oxycontin Terror Funders to the state on a non-stop basis. When the clinic gets shut down, innocent people are arrested. But even those people have it easy as compared with the 18 year old who shot the garbage up and died.

I tell you what, the scores of people who want to get their medication...the scores people...what a mess
Hotel California

Columbus, OH

#157 Sep 8, 2011
help us wrote:
<quoted text>happy to hear from you yes I stay on the drs lol i think they are going to give in a little i hope i go back next week will let you know xoxoxoo
Good morning, and excellent. It's that living hell called pain management protocol that weeds out the addicts from the chronic pain patients. As you're existing through it, you're understanding the reason for it. Who would put up with it except those of us who NEED it to survive.

Once you PROVE that you acutally have an issue you want to survive and have the emotional stability to handle addictive agents, you'll get what you need. The life of a chronic pain patient is the most disciplined existence anybody will ever know, but its the best we can do and we can still enjoy much of life when the pain is controlled.

I'll be waiting to hear. Best wishes and OXOX. I have faith - you're gonna make it.
Hotel California

Columbus, OH

#158 Sep 8, 2011
The Thunderlips wrote:
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Most folks in this state use the term "chronic pain" as a pathetic excuse to abuse prescription meds. Sure, there are people with no hope to otherwise improve their condition with other medical treatment, e.g. cancer patients, and rightfully and appropriately take medications to get through the day. However, these are not the whiners and complainers who visit the pill mills after some rinky-dink car accident 8 years ago with minimal damage done. Those losers - and there are thousands of them - are, by and large, welfare-abusing pill junkies. And yes, I want that crap out of my state.
Yeah? Exactly how are you gonna differentiate the junkies from the CPPs?
help us

United States

#159 Sep 10, 2011
sidekick wrote:
Why do they even have to put addictive ingredients in pain pills? Would they not work for not something addictive in it? Alka-Seltzer helps but not addictive. Pain pills help but so long and the need for the chemical seems more wanted after that. Look how cigaretttes help.. someone is stressed and one helps. alcohol.. someone celebrates or depressed.. Then the chemical just takes over. I know i'm clueless,nuts, etc. But, i hate how everything that makes life easier turns life harder.
hay i like that i wish they could make some thing like that iam hurtting bad and the dr said i know and we will have the ok for your stem core put in my back sure hopes it works
help us

United States

#160 Sep 10, 2011
Hotel California wrote:
<quoted text>
Good morning, and excellent. It's that living hell called pain management protocol that weeds out the addicts from the chronic pain patients. As you're existing through it, you're understanding the reason for it. Who would put up with it except those of us who NEED it to survive.
Once you PROVE that you acutally have an issue you want to survive and have the emotional stability to handle addictive agents, you'll get what you need. The life of a chronic pain patient is the most disciplined existence anybody will ever know, but its the best we can do and we can still enjoy much of life when the pain is controlled.
I'll be waiting to hear. Best wishes and OXOX. I have faith - you're gonna make it.
nice to hear back from you they are getting a ok on a stem cord thing to put in my back for 7 days hope it works if not thats about the last thing to try i have done it all but will try and keep you up on it all lots of love and kiss
help us

United States

#161 Sep 10, 2011
ConvictionSpeaker wrote:
Hi, I would like to add my opinion to this thread because it is one which involves perpetually looking into and avoiding pain medication at all costs, in spite of my legitimate reasons which I COULD obtain Oxycodone or Opana or some of these other sorts of pain relievers. I read 6 pages of this thread. I must say that there is the emotionally invested, the idiotic, the extra sensitive to pain impulses; there is the sourkraut, the angry, as well as the flat out fed up. Here is what I think.
Pain exists. There is no denying that pain is not an imagined experience. A patient's bones will hurt, they will leave surgery in an incredible amount of pain, they fell while riding a mountain bike and a scrape warrants Hydrocodone 7.5/500. There is such variety! Let me say this. Pain exists, and the patient who is terminally ill with cancer should be given as much pain medication as they need. I am no physician, but someone ought to be provided with as many of the 80mg Oxycontins as the prescribing physician sees fit. If you are that person, you are a very rare case. You are not easy to spot because you are surrounded by people who work in area that brings about pain.
For example, why should someone who works construction be given synthetic heroin when the only reason others are not working that construction job is because the pain is involved. Can you imagine all of the people who would go nuts over what construction pays. What is the problem with construction? It beats your joints and bones to Hell! It twists up your spinal cord! It is, quite literally, "back-breaking" work.
So, we have the person who is littered with toomers being told that they, like the person who has occupational induced pain, must stop getting adequate treatment because some 20 year old idiot is wandering in to the same doctor and getting 50mg Oxycontins so that this person can snort the whole script, as well as sell them to others who wish to think they are in pain, but so obviously are not.
99.99999% of people is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It is hardly effective in terms of its exaggerative effect. It makes the person who utilizes such appalingly stupid figures sound as though that person has been living at the apex of moronic thought processes since kindergarten. Someone needs to play in the sand box again but this time, they need better instruction on how to make the Little Tikes toy make a right turn.
This debate is endless. Hydrocodone is preferred to Oxycontin but it is loaded with Tylenol. Oxycontin is dangerous and its use funds the enemy in Afghanistan as the Counter-Insurgency tries to put an end to the evil of the evil; the Axis of Evil is marketing poison to us. Yet, Florida has no computenext in about 2 or 3 weeks they have to get it okr monitoring system, which bring Oxycontin Terror Funders to the state on a non-stop basis. When the clinic gets shut down, innocent people are arrested. But even those people have it easy as compared with the 18 year old who shot the garbage up and died.
I tell you what, the scores of people who want to get their medication...the scores people...what a mess
ithink alot of what you said was good but i have rsd in my arm and i have tryed every thing they tell me 2 and now stem cord in my back is going to be put in and i hope it works about 2 or 3 weeks they have to get a ok

“The Ultimate Male”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#162 Sep 11, 2011
Hotel California wrote:
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Yeah? Exactly how are you gonna differentiate the junkies from the CPPs?
I'd want to know how many different pain doctors, ER's, and pharmacies the person in question has been to over the past, say, 12 to 24 months. Over 3, and they're a pill junkie for sure. I'd also want to know where this person lives, and compare that with how far they're traveling to see they're pain docs. Over an hour and they're a pill junkie. And lets not forget location, because in SE Ohio it's a way of life. Cash only... Only treated with pain pills...

Come on man, if you're a CPP, and I have no reason to believe you're not, well then you should know this already.
Hotel California

Columbus, OH

#163 Sep 12, 2011
help us wrote:
<quoted text>nice to hear back from you they are getting a ok on a stem cord thing to put in my back for 7 days hope it works if not thats about the last thing to try i have done it all but will try and keep you up on it all lots of love and kiss
Is that like an internal tens unit? I have an external unit, and couldn't face life without it. I'm curious to know more about it.
Hotel California

Columbus, OH

#164 Sep 12, 2011
The Thunderlips wrote:
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I'd want to know how many different pain doctors, ER's, and pharmacies the person in question has been to over the past, say, 12 to 24 months. Over 3, and they're a pill junkie for sure. I'd also want to know where this person lives, and compare that with how far they're traveling to see they're pain docs. Over an hour and they're a pill junkie. And lets not forget location, because in SE Ohio it's a way of life. Cash only... Only treated with pain pills...
Come on man, if you're a CPP, and I have no reason to believe you're not, well then you should know this already.
I've been going through it for nine years, and yeah, I do. Just wondering what you know.

I've never been to a 'pill mill' because I've REQUIRED that the system which put me here, treat me properly. I've been relentless in my pursuit because I simply refuse to lay down and die because of malpractice. I caught on early to the game they play and I call them on it every time.

But not everybody is as viscious in the pursuit of survival as I am, and it's for those individuals I'm out here fighting. When you're sick to death from pain, when your 'doctors' do everything they can to convince you you're nothing but a headcase and/or loser looking for a malpractice cause, when they feed you poisons manufactured at pharmie labs for problems you don't actually have some people would actually crumble in the face of that abuse. But they shouldn't have to. We ALL should be able to get treated for those issues that are individually ours, rather than lined up on the insurance form check box system called Standardized Care.

If you've never been sick to the point of requiring multiple specialists who have no desire to work together for your health or even speak to each other about it, you don't have a clue how sorry our medical system is. Standardized Care is about 'wellness' and all the many tests required to make sure you're not ill. Once you're diagnosed with something, you're screwed. Screwed to the point that they'll run your insurance out and put you into bankruptcy, and then have the gaul to tell you they don't do Medicaid. Don't believe me. Get cancer and find out. Seven MILLION so-called cancer survivors on welfare have the same story to tell. I consider myself a cancer treatment survivor. Compared to the damage done by the treatments, the pain and sickness caused by cancer was a breeze. I'm damned grateful to be a Veteran. I truly feel sorry for people stuck in the For Profit system. And I will spend what's left of my life warning anyone who will listen to the dangers that lurk within. Iatrogenic injury is the leading cause of injury in this country, which makes your doctor more dangerous than a drunk driver.
help us

United States

#165 Sep 23, 2011
Hotel California wrote:
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Is that like an internal tens unit? I have an external unit, and couldn't face life without it. I'm curious to know more about it.
yes I think so I dont have it Iam going to get it soon I got sick off my sugar pill and had to stop with it until I get over this just my luck oxoxox

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