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Law a pain for some legitimate patients | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 170 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 10, 2011, titled Law a pain for some legitimate patients | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Andy ran out of oxycodone last week, the painkiller that eases his back pain when another medicine stops working.

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clubsoda

Reynoldsburg, OH

#21 Jul 10, 2011
ProBusiness wrote:
His problem is unfortunate, but the truth is that 99.999% of patients going to doctors with "back pain" are just trying to get pain pills. I would say learn other techniques to deal with pain because the rampant abuse of the synthetic morphine pills means they will, and should, become very, very difficult to obtain.
I GUESS YOU HAVE never been in real pain ,or you never would have maid that comment.
Lee Ann Meleca

Cleveland, OH

#22 Jul 10, 2011
The are plenty of legitimate chronic pain centers at major hospitals that are not affected by this law!
Lee Ann Meleca

Cleveland, OH

#23 Jul 10, 2011
There are plenty of legitimate chronic pain centers at major hospitals that are not affected by this law!
PEARL

Fordyce, AR

#24 Jul 10, 2011
Where Ozies and Morphine ever meant to be long term pain solutions? I always thought they were for short term pain, like surgery.

From my experience with a family member and oxies, the pain is from withdraws, not the symmptom being treated. They need to open up some centers to detox all these people before pulling the meds.
Bklyn

Lakewood, NJ

#25 Jul 10, 2011
ProBusiness wrote:
His problem is unfortunate, but the truth is that 99.999% of patients going to doctors with "back pain" are just trying to get pain pills. I would say learn other techniques to deal with pain because the rampant abuse of the synthetic morphine pills means they will, and should, become very, very difficult to obtain.
Where do you get you figures from. Can you please provide any articles that make this statement, I doubt that you can because you are one of those people that make bold statements with no proof or stats about the issue.
cookiebun

Columbus, OH

#26 Jul 10, 2011
Frigging Nanny State.
Bklyn

Lakewood, NJ

#27 Jul 10, 2011
PEARL wrote:
Where Ozies and Morphine ever meant to be long term pain solutions? I always thought they were for short term pain, like surgery.
From my experience with a family member and oxies, the pain is from withdraws, not the symmptom being treated. They need to open up some centers to detox all these people before pulling the meds.
It is obvious that you know nothing about pain patients, there are many people with pain that does not go away and can not be cured so the only solution is pain medication.
Black Lion

Columbus, OH

#28 Jul 10, 2011
ProBusiness wrote:
His problem is unfortunate, but the truth is that 99.999% of patients going to doctors with "back pain" are just trying to get pain pills. I would say learn other techniques to deal with pain because the rampant abuse of the synthetic morphine pills means they will, and should, become very, very difficult to obtain.
This is an unsubstantiated lie. The poster is uninformed and ignorant to the truth and should be disregarded as such. He will not respond with any information from a credible source to substantiate his fantasy.
Pain

Columbus, OH

#29 Jul 10, 2011
Yep...Kaysuck causes a lot of deliberate pain....what goes around...he'll soon have more than his fair share...
el diablo

Columbus, OH

#30 Jul 10, 2011
my life has been turned upside down be pain so bad that i cant do anything but lay in bed but the meds do help me get up and around for awhile and i can still play my guitar while proped up in bed, if i don't have that i have no reason to live GET IT !
Hotel California

Grove City, OH

#31 Jul 10, 2011
clubsoda wrote:
<quoted text>I GUESS YOU HAVE never been in real pain ,or you never would have maid that comment.
Before I had radiation therapy for cancer and got all burnt to helll, necrotic bones, atrophied muscles, Colonic stenosis, urological cystitis, and ACQUIRED TARLOV CYST DISEASE in which the radiation was so intense it literally blistered the sheath from the nerves in the sacral area, I couldn't have imagined what chronic pain is.

You know, the kind that makes you throw up, and causes your blood pressure to spike so you stroke out.

Let's face it - most kinds of pain go away. You break your arm, you get scalded by boiling water, you have a headache, you tear a muscle, you 'throw out' your back, you have a surgery. That kind of pain of eventually goes away as the injury heals.
It gets better every day.

But people who have never had the kind of pain that never goes away, just gets worse on a daily basis because the disease and/or injury that causes it is PROGRESSIVE, can't and won't understand until they arrive at this place.

For some of them like ProBusiness, that won't be too soon.

According to a Dispatch article this week, biz isn't moving to Ohio because they can't find an area of Ohio with a workforce that can pass a drug test in any great numbers. I don't believe that. Just an excuse for Kasich's list of credits. ProBusiness obviously believes everything he reads, and if he can't find it in print, he makes it up.

Clearly, the addicts are going to find something else on which to get buzzed, and chronic pain patients for whom many are confined to bed, are going to die. Wouldn't it make more sense to put the addicts in forced rehab, similar to prison? Gotta stay there until it's determined they're clean and passed the requisite requirements? For a third offense, put their name on a list that says they'll never get narcs? Make sure that database is available to all docs and all pharmies. It's quite doable. They report our usage to the DEA. It really could work in both directions.

And let us pain patients keep it between our us and our docs?

In the same bill, Kasich could have made medical MJ legal, but he chose not to, presumably because he doesn't give a crap. That might hurt his chances of getting jobs back to Ohio - damn the 10,ooo jobs that will be created when it does become legal. The truth is that it would help many of us stay off narcs and the rest of us cut our usage in half. I fall into the latter category. Instead, they'd sooner put me on methadone for the Tarlov. I won't take that poison. I'll lay here in bed.

The ugly truth is, legislators who make these laws don't want to hear from chronic pain patients because we're 'druggies'. And our docs are so scared of losing their licensure, they aren't going to advocate for us, either.

Now that the DEA is practising medicine, and have forced docs to function as law enforcment, do we even have any hope left? Where is the medical board on this?Why are they abdicating their responsibility? Is it possible that they don't want America to know that the leading cause of injury in this country is of iatrogenic etilogy? That more people are injured by their docs than in car accidents, suicides, murders and just everyday stuff like falling off a ladder? Therefore, it makes more sense to let us die. MAybe they don't want anyone to know that there are seven million so-called cancer survivors on welfare. That they cripple more people than they cure because the definition of 'life' is 'barely breathing.'

If that's the case, Medical Board, you can shut us up and start advocating for those who are injured by your dues-paying members by allowing us to live while we're still alive.

http://www.omca2012.org/
carmichael

United States

#32 Jul 10, 2011
timmy wrote:
Start arresting the Dealers or DOCTORS ! That will stop this fast.Kasich why didn't you think of that or your boy from California. You know that Heart beat bill that was just passed amazes me ! We had a Representative from Ohio Arrest in Indiana for DWI, Viagra , and a Stripper in his car ! What's funny about this Catholic Rep . is he just voted on the Heart beat bill. Kasich doesn't want us pounding on him as he quoted. Well what are we suppose to do dictator ? Where is his Morales in his pants ?? While he tries to Knock Up the World !!!!
I'm having a hard time understanding your writing. I believe it is called rambling gibberish.
Archie Bunker on Steroids

Westerville, OH

#33 Jul 10, 2011
Yeah - thanks democRATs! Think we have enough laws yet? What idiots!

Hows that hope and change working out America?
carmichael

United States

#34 Jul 10, 2011
Hotel California wrote:
It's not hard to figure out what's going to happen.
There will be mass suicides over the next six months, the average wait at a pain clinic now.
Between the suicides, and pain-induced heart attacks and strokes, the deaths of addicts will look like a love fest. Unfortunately, there won't be any way to track these deaths since the cause of death will about the injury or disease causing the pain.
We know the families of addicts pushed this thing through because they were 'tired' of seeing their loved ones die. They had convinced themselves that us legitimate cases could get treated because they have no concept of how the medical system functions at the specialist level.
Well, the joke is on us chronic pain patients, isn't it? Their addicts will go to something more available, and we'll be dead because we NEED doctors. Getting them some interventional treatment would have been asking the families to do something other than sit and complain.
Now, the new law is merely killing off another group of people. The group who wants to live and be productive in favor of those who don't.
99.9%. Is that based on your own private research?
carmichael

United States

#35 Jul 10, 2011
Hotel California wrote:
It's not hard to figure out what's going to happen.
There will be mass suicides over the next six months, the average wait at a pain clinic now.
Between the suicides, and pain-induced heart attacks and strokes, the deaths of addicts will look like a love fest. Unfortunately, there won't be any way to track these deaths since the cause of death will about the injury or disease causing the pain.
We know the families of addicts pushed this thing through because they were 'tired' of seeing their loved ones die. They had convinced themselves that us legitimate cases could get treated because they have no concept of how the medical system functions at the specialist level.
Well, the joke is on us chronic pain patients, isn't it? Their addicts will go to something more available, and we'll be dead because we NEED doctors. Getting them some interventional treatment would have been asking the families to do something other than sit and complain.
Now, the new law is merely killing off another group of people. The group who wants to live and be productive in favor of those who don't.
Thanks for the prediction Nostradamus.
Archie Bunker on Steroids

Westerville, OH

#36 Jul 10, 2011
Lee Ann Meleca wrote:
There are plenty of legitimate chronic pain centers at major hospitals that are not affected by this law!
And how does that work? About a grand everytime you go to the Emergency? I hope idiots like you need something for chronic pain someday or live with someone who does. Anyone who defends this nanny law DESERVES it!
Hotel California

Grove City, OH

#37 Jul 10, 2011
carmichael wrote:
<quoted text>
99.9%. Is that based on your own private research?
That wasn't me, sweetie. That's my response to ProBusiness whose decided that 99.99% of the people with back pain are just there to get high.

He doesn't even realize that chronic pain patients don't get high from the meds we take because the pain balances the buzz. I haven't experienced the state of narcosis in the 8.5 years I've been struggling to survive. And I haven't enjoyed a state of relative 'painlessness' since then, either. It's chronic, it's intense even with the drugs, and in my face with every breath I take.

And when I'm going through a pain spike that leaves me awake for three days at a time because my nervous system is so torqued, merciful death gets closer with each episode.
Hotel California

Grove City, OH

#38 Jul 10, 2011
carmichael wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the prediction Nostradamus.
How long have you been getting treated for Chronic Pain? Tell us about your EXPERIENCE.
Hotel California

Grove City, OH

#39 Jul 10, 2011
carmichael wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm having a hard time understanding your writing. I believe it is called rambling gibberish.
Or maybe Chronic Pain? Bet you didn't know that chronic pain actually kills off the brain? The brain puts so much effort into processing the stimulation, it melts down and shuts off, just like a nuclear reactor.

Didn't know that, did you?
Linda

Galloway, OH

#40 Jul 10, 2011
This is a means by which the government can turn law abiding citizens who need medical treatment, into purchasing drugs on the street and creating more criminals. They want people with medical conditions to suffer and then die, so no more money is spent on them. The thugs in charge want us to be physically, financially, spiritually, mentally beaten down to be slaves to the elitist and dependent on their goodwill to provide our necessities. Wake up!

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