Rob Portman

Created by -The-Artist- on Mar 15, 2013

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“animis opibusque parati”

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#82 Mar 16, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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You sorta missed this part:
Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to.
LOL. Perhaps you should consider remarriage.

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#83 Mar 16, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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In your rant about marriage not being specifically for procreation [your purported defense for same-sex marriage], you purposely and dishonestly implied that the Apostle Paul's advice to young widows on remarriage was for the sole purpose to "keep them busy keeping house for someone."
Your lie and feminist-speak belie your attitude regarding your belief that the Apostle Paul represses women.
Like I said, the Apostle Paul has always appeared to me to be luke-warm on the subject of marriage. Never does he endorse it strongly, but always presents it as being better than giving in to unholy temptations.

Beyond that, regarding Paul and women, I have heard--in sermons, from ordained ministers--a variety of explanations regarding Paul. One is that he believed that the second coming was imminent, putting a very diminished importance on the maintenance of all human institutions. I have also heard suggested, and supported Biblically in ways that I cannot reproduce, that Paul's ideas about women and their community roles evolved as he grew and matured in his faith. I have also heard persuasive sermons that Paul's writings were polluted at various points in transmission and recopying--making them less radical and more acceptable to various groups.

But again--I don't hear any evidence of how I am repressed, how I am prevented from doing or believing things that I might otherwise do or believe.

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#84 Mar 16, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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LOL. Perhaps you should consider remarriage.
Reconsider how? and why?

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#85 Mar 16, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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In your rant about marriage not being specifically for procreation [your purported defense for same-sex marriage], you purposely and dishonestly implied that the Apostle Paul's advice to young widows on remarriage was for the sole purpose to "keep them busy keeping house for someone."
Your lie and feminist-speak belie your attitude regarding your belief that the Apostle Paul represses women.
Oh, I see. Somebody told you that all feminists believe that Paul represses women.

So you respond by claiming that I am repressed by feminism.

Weak.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#86 Mar 16, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Like I said, the Apostle Paul has always appeared to me to be luke-warm on the subject of marriage. Never does he endorse it strongly, but always presents it as being better than giving in to unholy temptations.
It's generally agreed by all that the Apostle Paul is lukewarm on marriage, Paul's viewpoint was that Christ would return in his own lifetime, so there was no point to being married.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#87 Mar 16, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Oh, I see. Somebody told you that all feminists believe that Paul represses women.
Many feminists do think that Paul is anti-woman, though I've also seen claims that Paul endorsed female priests.

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#88 Mar 16, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Reconsider how? and why?
So you can remedy your "talk[ing] nonsense, saying things [you] ought not to."

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#89 Mar 16, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Oh, I see. Somebody told you that all feminists believe that Paul represses women.
So you respond by claiming that I am repressed by feminism.
Weak.
You wear your feigned ignorance well.

It is you, Twister, who has repeatedly denigrated the writings of the Apostle Paul on marriage and on homosexuality.

Like Rob Portman, when biblical truths do not align with your personal feelings, you discard the biblical truths.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#90 Mar 16, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Like Rob Portman, when biblical truths do not align with your personal feelings, you discard the biblical truths.
That's a problem for all of us.

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#91 Mar 16, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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So you can remedy your "talk[ing] nonsense, saying things [you] ought not to."
No need to reconsider--I'm not opposed to marriage, for myself or others.

Although I am not in the group that Paul was discussing.

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#92 Mar 16, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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You wear your feigned ignorance well.
It is you, Twister, who has repeatedly denigrated the writings of the Apostle Paul on marriage and on homosexuality.
Hardly.

In fact, I have defended Paul on numerous occasions. Including on this thread.

You just don't happen to agree with me.

Sorry.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#93 Mar 16, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Like I said, the Apostle Paul has always appeared to me to be luke-warm on the subject of marriage. Never does he endorse it strongly, but always presents it as being better than giving in to unholy temptations.
Beyond that, regarding Paul and women, I have heard--in sermons, from ordained ministers--a variety of explanations regarding Paul. One is that he believed that the second coming was imminent, putting a very diminished importance on the maintenance of all human institutions. I have also heard suggested, and supported Biblically in ways that I cannot reproduce, that Paul's ideas about women and their community roles evolved as he grew and matured in his faith. I have also heard persuasive sermons that Paul's writings were polluted at various points in transmission and recopying--making them less radical and more acceptable to various groups.
But again--I don't hear any evidence of how I am repressed, how I am prevented from doing or believing things that I might otherwise do or believe.
I have little respect for those who support the idea that Biblical writings were "polluted" but then try to explain to others what the Bible really says while flinging quotes at others. Tip flings quotes, too, but I believe he truly believes and attempts to honor the literal meaning of those words so he gets a pass (whether or not I believe the same way).

You are not a Bible-based Christian as modern times defines it, Reader. Be honest and admit that first. The rest will sort itself out once you do that and you might find yourself a lot less frustrated.
Pam

Plain City, OH

#94 Mar 16, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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Eyeglasses are unnatural in animals too.
Stupid.
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There would be no extinction unless every individual decided to be sterile. So what are you really afraid of... that if gay marriage is legal, you might be tempted?
Not true. Have you ever seen a family tree? The "gay" family tree is a dead end.
Some of you guys are all about liberty...
You can't put a square peg in a round hole.
What part of unnatual do you not understand?
as long as you get the liberties YOU want... You're missing the bigger picture. Liberty is liberty, even if it is unpopular. A growing number of people are realizing that.
Why are you so afraid of women?

Don't you understand that a square peg does not go in a round hole.

A male cat will kill of all offspring of a female, so strong is the desire of a male cat to procreate. That is ture of all species except one.

Pam

Plain City, OH

#95 Mar 16, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
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You are correct. I leave the fearful grovelling to an imaginary 'God' to the small-minded little people.
Carry on.
Another little boy afraid to play with the girls due to fear of procreation.

Grow up little boy.
Pam

Plain City, OH

#96 Mar 16, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
What does the crowd think?
The explains the low White birth rate. The more popular the gay lifestyle becomes, the less and less children will be born at the same times Muslim procreation is at an all time high. The future belongs to the burka, once the Muslims become dominant they will likely kill off all the old, gray gays who will have no young progeny to protect them and build a future.
Pam

Plain City, OH

#97 Mar 16, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
Sterility is unnatural in animals, only an insane species votes for its own extinction. Only the unnatural refuse to procreate.
At least Muslims have the sense to realize that the future belongs to those who reproduce or those who obey one of the first commandments, "be fruitful and multiply."
You are 100% right Oliver. A male lion plays with a lioness and the next thing you know you have little baby lions to carry on the future while the old gays grow old, senile and die. One is life and the other is death of a species.

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#98 Mar 16, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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I have little respect for those who support the idea that Biblical writings were "polluted" but then try to explain to others what the Bible really says while flinging quotes at others. Tip flings quotes, too, but I believe he truly believes and attempts to honor the literal meaning of those words so he gets a pass (whether or not I believe the same way).
You are not a Bible-based Christian as modern times defines it, Reader. Be honest and admit that first. The rest will sort itself out once you do that and you might find yourself a lot less frustrated.
I'm not real big on letting other people to define who I am or can be. Yes, I am aware that some have claimed the words "Bible-based" to describe their own Biblical views--implying that other Christians who disagree with them espouse beliefs not derived from a Biblical base.

I don't go for that kind of thing.

I also don't go for folks spreading a gospel of hatred and calling it Christian. Or confusing ultra-patriotism with Christianity. I believe they do a great disservice to many on the outside of organized religion. Those who may be believers but unaffiliated, or believers who have been defined out by some who see themselves as being on the inside.

But my beliefs are not unique, nor do I lack for others of similar belief, or those who challenge me spiritually. There are a good many Christians who act out their faith in concerns for social justice in the world. It looks as though our new pope may be one.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#99 Mar 17, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Immoral behavior has consequences.
There are no extra seats at my table.
same here

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