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I'm not advocating lawlessness. The idea is to limit liberty only as much as is necessary to protect others from harm. You have the right to swing your fists about, but at the point it intersects with my nose, the law is there to say you'll be penalized if you do that.
I wasn't ripping the idea of anarchy, or referring to government much at all. I was talking about how the population really can't be trusted, because it's irresponsible, as a result of culture.

I don't really know what to make of it.

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Hundreds of years from now, people will look back and laugh at you fools and the stupidities of pushing policies that are biologically untenable.
We will be mocking the Chinese no doubt, but we may be doing it in Arabic!

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Completely responsive. If I were gay and it bothered my mom and dad, I would respect that and wouldn't flaunt it in their face. I wouldn't act like some whiny spoiled brat and demand that they cater to me. And I expect the same respect from those younger than me.
So--would you forego a committed relationship? Would you move away in order to live your life where they didn't have to be bothered by knowing that your were gay? Would you, as say a sixteen or seventeen year old, go through a charade of heterosexuality--dating girls, taking a female date to the prom?

Would you marry a woman in order to please your parents and convince them that you are not gay (or to support their illusion)?

If asked, would you lie?

How much duplicity is owed to protecting your parents in their bigotry?

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So--would you forego a committed relationship? Would you move away in order to live your life where they didn't have to be bothered by knowing that your were gay? Would you, as say a sixteen or seventeen year old, go through a charade of heterosexuality--dating girls, taking a female date to the prom?
Would you marry a woman in order to please your parents and convince them that you are not gay (or to support their illusion)?
If asked, would you lie?
How much duplicity is owed to protecting your parents in their bigotry?
Knowing the difference between right and wrong is not bigotry.
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So--would you forego a committed relationship?
That is indeed correct. Unlike you Westerners, some people in the world are raised to control their libidos. Not everybody in this world has been brainwashed by the Jewish pornographers to think that everybody has to be copulating all the time like a wind up toy rabbit.

The next post will address the issue about how people like you don't realize how much you have come under the spell of your Jewish pied pipers.
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Here are some interesting comments I saw on another board. They were posted by a Muslim, but they are equally applicable to Europeans who come from devout religious backgrounds. In fact, if you look at the timeline, Christians have up to an 800 year head start over Muslims so they probably got it from us.

Point being, only you fools bought into everything being about sex.

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I think it is so funny that people in the west think celibacy before marriage is outdated because in all of the muslim world- it is still very prevalent. the younger generations have started some semblance of dating but most of these couples don't do much more than fool around before getting married. open your eyes- there is a big world out there and so many different ways to do things with.

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I was raised muslim and grew up in 4 different middle eastern countries. In all my years living abroad I didn't once hear of anyone having premarital sex. Its important to consider that the social circles I travelled in were very wealthy, well-educated and "westernized" and thus called liberal muslims. The liberalization of muslims is very interesting in that they do take in elements of western culture such as education and relative gender equity but they always seem to stop short at sex. This class of the muslim population doesn't adhere to the old school social order where men and women are segregated. Men and women work along side each other, form close friendships and even date! While they may fool around and partake in romantic gestures- sexual activity is reserved solely for after marriage. From what I have seen and the discussions I have had, muslims- especially those who are educated look at western sexual culture in a very negative light. What we perceive sexual liberation as modern and progressive they view our casual sexual dalliances as primitive and borderline barbarian. That westerners can't keep their libidos in check is looked upon as a serious lack in decency, sophistication and civility.

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Yeah. I always find it so funny how casually my american friends think of sex and more importantly, how they genuinely believe celibacy or being a virgin by choice is such a supremely outdated and primitive idea. Hardly! So many liberal muslims in the U.S who party, drink, do drugs, are borderline atheists who don't practice their religion even come to a stop at sex. They do date and mingle with the opposite sex without any reservation but don't do as far as have casual sexual dalliances. I know some muslim-americans who do have pre-marital sex but only with the person they seriously intend to marry. Its not even a religious or spiritual choice- just a personal preference having been raised aware of the lax western and strict western views on sex. They seem to inherently believe that waiting to have sex is a smart choice- personal, emotional, intellectual lifestyle, values compatibility is the foundation of a strong romantic union and sex is the last step towards ultimate intimacy.*shrug*

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People change, the World changes, and people's views change over time and there isn't anything you can do about it except to make a choice and see how it works out.

except that i just told you that the muslims i associated with were celibate not because of faith but because for some reason a lax sexual life didnt appeal to them. it is incorrect to assume that religion is the sole cause for celibacy.

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That is indeed correct. Unlike you Westerners, some people in the world are raised to control their libidos. Not everybody in this world has been brainwashed by the Jewish pornographers to think that everybody has to be copulating all the time like a wind up toy rabbit.
The next post will address the issue about how people like you don't realize how much you have come under the spell of your Jewish pied pipers.
So, then, would you marry someone you could not feel a sexual attraction for?

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A man has a penis. Another man has a penis. Common sense should tell you that the notion that these two should have a marriage is insane.
You're assuming that the only purpose of marriage is to procreate. This clearly is not the case, even among heterosexuals.
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So, then, would you marry someone you could not feel a sexual attraction for?
Seems to work for John Travolta and who are you and the pied pipers of pop culture to say he's wrong? He has a wife, children and a loving family. He has a defect and he compensates and works around it just as a dyslexic has to do when he has to read something. What's wrong with that?

Why have you people been brainwashed to believe that everything is about sex?

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I wasn't ripping the idea of anarchy, or referring to government much at all. I was talking about how the population really can't be trusted, because it's irresponsible, as a result of culture.
I don't really know what to make of it.
More likely learned behaviors brought about by an increasingly intrusive government.

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You're assuming that the only purpose of marriage is to procreate. This clearly is not the case, even among heterosexuals.
Whole lotta Old Testament marriages were about consolidating property or kingdoms.

Even Paul (one of the world's most luke-warm persons when it comes to marriage, in my mind), advocated remarriage for you widows, not for procreation, but to keep them busy keeping house for someone.
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You're assuming that the only purpose of marriage is to procreate. This clearly is not the case, even among heterosexuals.
During antiquity people in the rural villages would openly mock the fetishists in the cities by pretending to take little boys. It was considered high comedy in Ancient Rome and Greece.

You don't see the parallels to today?

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Seems to work for John Travolta and who are you and the pied pipers of pop culture to say he's wrong? He has a wife, children and a loving family. He has a defect and he compensates and works around it just as a dyslexic has to do when he has to read something. What's wrong with that?
Why have you people been brainwashed to believe that everything is about sex?
Never heard that Travolta was gay.

In fact, I do know one gay person who went the marriage route for career purposes, and because at the time the only other alternative offered him was an acceptance of being pychologically damaged goods (and electroshock therapy, as a matter of fact). His life has not been easy, despite having a wonderful and loving family. On at least on occasion he came close to suicide.

Now, it happens he finally accepted his sexuality and is frankly living a far healthier and happier life. He still has a family and they have had some challenges to work through. And I frankly don't know, nor care, how he is currently "acting on" his sexuality beyond admitting it to himself and others.

It isn't all about sex.

It isn't even mostly about sex.

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...Even Paul...advocated remarriage for you[ng] widows, not for procreation, but to keep them busy keeping house for someone.
You poor, repressed feminist.

You wouldn't have a clue about the complementary model of male-female relationships and the benefits of marital companionship, as established by God from Creation, would you?

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You poor, repressed feminist.
You wouldn't have a clue about the complementary model of male-female relationships and the benefits of marital companionship, as established by God from Creation, would you?
LOL--what makes you think that I am repressed?

1 Timothy 5:

11 As for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry. 12 Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. 13 Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to. 14 So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander.

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LOL--what makes you think that I am repressed?
1 Timothy 5:
11 As for younger widows, do not put them on such a list. For when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry. 12 Thus they bring judgment on themselves, because they have broken their first pledge. 13 Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to. 14 So I counsel younger widows to marry, to have children, to manage their homes and to give the enemy no opportunity for slander.
Twister, twister, twister...your own original post:
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...Even Paul (one of the world's most luke-warm persons when it comes to marriage, in my mind), advocated remarriage for you widows, not for procreation, but to keep them busy keeping house for someone.
You clearly twisted and outright omitted the Apostle Paul's words on the subject when you implied that his advice to young widows was to remarry "not for procreation" [OUTRIGHT LIE], but for the sole purpose of "keeping house for someone."

In fact, your responding post, above,[Scriptural quote] clearly shows Paul's advice to young widows was:

"to marry" -- implies companionship
"to have children" -- implies motherhood/parenthood with husband
"to manage their homes" -- implies organizational/business skills

You are such a feminist fraud.

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Twister, twister, twister...your own original post:
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You clearly twisted and outright omitted the Apostle Paul's words on the subject when you implied that his advice to young widows was to remarry "not for procreation" [OUTRIGHT LIE], but for the sole purpose of "keeping house for someone."
In fact, your responding post, above,[Scriptural quote] clearly shows Paul's advice to young widows was:
"to marry" -- implies companionship
"to have children" -- implies motherhood/parenthood with husband
"to manage their homes" -- implies organizational/business skills
You are such a feminist fraud.
You sorta missed this part:

Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also busybodies who talk nonsense, saying things they ought not to.

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Twister, twister, twister...your own original post:
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You clearly twisted and outright omitted the Apostle Paul's words on the subject when you implied that his advice to young widows was to remarry "not for procreation" [OUTRIGHT LIE], but for the sole purpose of "keeping house for someone."
In fact, your responding post, above,[Scriptural quote] clearly shows Paul's advice to young widows was:
"to marry" -- implies companionship
"to have children" -- implies motherhood/parenthood with husband
"to manage their homes" -- implies organizational/business skills
You are such a feminist fraud.
And again--what makes you think I am repressed? Repressed how?

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During antiquity people in the rural villages would openly mock the fetishists in the cities by pretending to take little boys. It was considered high comedy in Ancient Rome and Greece.
You don't see the parallels to today?
I see many parallels... the ones that stand out involve those of certain religious bents continually seeking ways to force their beliefs down the throats of others. Of course, there's always a little variability, and perhaps one day one particular variable may be the discovery that the practice may turn into an excellent way for one to discover if one's afterlife beliefs are true a lot sooner than one might otherwise expect.

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And again--what makes you think I am repressed? Repressed how?
In your rant about marriage not being specifically for procreation [your purported defense for same-sex marriage], you purposely and dishonestly implied that the Apostle Paul's advice to young widows on remarriage was for the sole purpose to "keep them busy keeping house for someone."

Your lie and feminist-speak belie your attitude regarding your belief that the Apostle Paul represses women.

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