Births to unmarried moms still climbing

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Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#41 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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'They' paid in around $2800. in federal withholding and go a check from IRS for $7300.
It looks to me like the $2800 they paid in federal withholding was refunded to them. So why is that not a refund, MORON.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#42 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
He pays child support and is totally involved with his daughter, as his father and I am. The 'baby mama' still gets gigantic entitlements, including the EIC and 'head of household' filing status.
You would think with a good Christian upbringing, he would make an honest woman of her.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#43 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Who taught you early in life that education was important? Your uneducated parents, right?
And I bet your parents supported and encouraged you, and when you had that education, you went to work, not on to earn one more degree to hang on the wall and be a 'proffessional student.'
They don't get it, Doc. While we were being taught to stand on our own, kids today, and the prior generation were taught how to work the system for the most freebees.
Who taught your stepson?

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#44 May 3, 2013
VADoc wrote:
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Reader the saying "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink" is what your last paragraph on education and training can be summed up to.
You can't go more than a few blocks in most cities without some sort of education program or training program or school being available to train and educate adults. Hell most of these folks you are speaking of would have a free ride to school if they applied. The problem is many don't want to put in the work to get the education or training. They'd rather just be on vacation and get a check each month.
I've known several of the mothers and fathers you are talking about. I was best friends with one of our social workers at one of the hospitals I worked at. Also a girl behind me in my graduate class was a social worker before entering the healthcare field. She isn't like you. She sees the reality and the fraud in th system. I've had patients flat out tell me they won't get married because of the reasons I listed. Many of these folks just don't have it programmed in them to succeed. Why should they? I mean if all your wants and needs are met by the government and you don't have to do anything to get them why should you work?
I'm all about education. I love it. That's probably why have so much of it. I was taught at a young age that education is the most important thing you can attain in life because it will never be taken away from you. Others unfortunately don't feel that way. That's why many (not all but many) are stuck where they are in life.
I didn't grow up with a father as a physician reader. My parents both barely graduated high school. I have several family members who can't even read or write. I saw what no education and no job skills could lead to if your company closed up shop. I saw that with the closing of the coal mines where I'm from. I decided I would get all the education needed to never ever have to worry about a job. If I can do it then anyone can do it.
Drop-out as a phenomenon can be pretty reliably predicted by behaviors in evidence at around the 6th grade. And it is by no means accidental that these disengagement behaviors are unevenly distributed among schools and districts. Such schools routinely exhibit curricula and pedagogy that place very little emphasis on the engagement of students. Furthermore, there is an emphasis on teaching such students submission to authority through an overuse of school removal and the development of strong linkages between schools and the criminal justice system.

And because some students miraculously transcend, graduate and continue education we further the lie that failure in such drop-out factories is merely a matter of choice.

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#45 May 3, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Who taught your stepson?
I'm sure it must have been the first wife, lol.

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#46 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Bite me reader. You're the last person I'd take any advice from. If you beleive that the EIC credit is not a big part of bankrupting this country, you need a few classes in economics.
Look into why the EIC had strong support on both sides of the aisle.

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#47 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Bite me reader. You're the last person I'd take any advice from. If you beleive that the EIC credit is not a big part of bankrupting this country, you need a few classes in economics.
BTW--you neatly avoided my first question.

Can your stepson afford to support his child but is refusing to do so?

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#48 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Who taught you early in life that education was important? Your uneducated parents, right?
And I bet your parents supported and encouraged you, and when you had that education, you went to work, not on to earn one more degree to hang on the wall and be a 'proffessional student.'
They don't get it, Doc. While we were being taught to stand on our own, kids today, and the prior generation were taught how to work the system for the most freebees.
Yeah?

Who was teaching them that? The same generation who had been taught to stand on your own? Why did you do that?
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#49 May 3, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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BTW--you neatly avoided my first question.
Can your stepson afford to support his child but is refusing to do so?
After telling the world personal details of his personal and financial life, she will now tell you to stop being nosy.

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#50 May 3, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You would think with a good Christian upbringing, he would make an honest woman of her.
Oh he would marry her in a New York heartbeat.

I did not raise him. My husband raised his three boys ON HIS OWN, from 6 mos., 2 years and four years old. The whole time working full time and never took one dime of assistance. You'll find damn few women, let alone men, that has those kind of attributes.

Why am I talking to trolls?

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#51 May 3, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
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After telling the world personal details of his personal and financial life, she will now tell you to stop being nosy.
My stepson has paid child support plus, beginning before the baby was born. Like his father, he is a very talented and hard working guy.

“Meh.”

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#52 May 3, 2013
Sounds legit, he's a great guy but she's not having it.

I cannot believe how she made him get her pregnant. Astounding.

I would be livid, were I you. You should have some stern word with her while reminding him that he's doing the right thing, all along.

If we get to a place where we expect men to take equal responsibility for their actions as women, what kind of a nation are we?

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#53 May 3, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Yeah?
Who was teaching them that? The same generation who had been taught to stand on your own? Why did you do that?
FU reader. You know darn well I did not get married until 7 years ago, never had a child of my own to raise and, I modestly say, that any child that had me in their life has been the better for it.

What have you taught your 'children?' "Don't rise above living in the ghetto and go ahead and kill you unborn baby at any stage of it's gestation, I'll be there support your decision?"

You're such a phoney, look down your nose at everyone, clueless blowhard.

On the taxpayers dime again participating on topix during work hours? You teach your kids that?

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#55 May 3, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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I'm sure it must have been the first wife, lol.
His mother died when he was 6 months old.

That give you a giggle, you lunatic?
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#56 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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FU reader. You know darn well I did not get married until 7 years ago, never had a child of my own to raise and, I modestly say, that any child that had me in their life has been the better for it.
What have you taught your 'children?' "Don't rise above living in the ghetto and go ahead and kill you unborn baby at any stage of it's gestation, I'll be there support your decision?"
You're such a phoney, look down your nose at everyone, clueless blowhard.
On the taxpayers dime again participating on topix during work hours? You teach your kids that?
Whose dime are you on?

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#57 May 3, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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I'm sure it must have been the first wife, lol.
His mother deserted him and his two brothers and their father when he was six months old.

That give you a giggle, you lunatic?

As far as does he pay child support, I did answer you. Stop skimming. You're better at twisting.

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#58 May 3, 2013
Shortly after she deserted her family, she died in an MVA. Only the oldest son remembers her at all.

“Meh.”

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#59 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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His mother deserted him and his two brothers and their father when he was six months old.
That give you a giggle, you lunatic?
As far as does he pay child support, I did answer you. Stop skimming. You're better at twisting.
I'm not sure her skimming is as much of an issue as there being inconsistent information begin passed out.

I thought the mother died, when he was 6 months old? As was stated a whole 2 posts ago.

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#60 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Oh he would marry her in a New York heartbeat.
I did not raise him. My husband raised his three boys ON HIS OWN, from 6 mos., 2 years and four years old. The whole time working full time and never took one dime of assistance. You'll find damn few women, let alone men, that has those kind of attributes.
Why am I talking to trolls?
Apparently your hubby didn't teach his sons about wearing a raincoat when having relations, provided they don't choose to keep their little friend zippered up.

And BTW, I know a good many women who have those kinds of attributes.

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#61 May 3, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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FU reader. You know darn well I did not get married until 7 years ago, never had a child of my own to raise and, I modestly say, that any child that had me in their life has been the better for it.
What have you taught your 'children?' "Don't rise above living in the ghetto and go ahead and kill you unborn baby at any stage of it's gestation, I'll be there support your decision?"
You're such a phoney, look down your nose at everyone, clueless blowhard.
On the taxpayers dime again participating on topix during work hours? You teach your kids that?
I understood you to be describing an entire generation, not limited to your own life.

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