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#75 Feb 28, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>And then given an F. How many kids who recited the Mexican pledge got an F?
Dunno, how many?

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

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#76 Feb 28, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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BTW--I went to a public high school with an enrollment of 3,000.
I win the pissing contest!
That wasn't the point. 1500 or 3000...both big schools, hardly insulated. Now if a high school is rural with 300 students total, that's fairly removed from quite a few things.
Get it?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#77 Feb 28, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Where did I say anything about being under oath? I've answered questions from police officers who most certainly don't administer an oath, but expect truthful answers.
You're a "lawyer," right?
No lawyer worth his salt would ever recommend that his clients answer the questions of the police.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#78 Feb 28, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>When 25 kids are assigned to recite something, how many could possibly get an F? My guess is none.
Somewhere between 0 and 25.

woof

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#79 Feb 28, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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I'm pretty sure that the intent of the assignment was not to manipulate allegiance to a foreign country, any more than learning Le Marseillaise is for a French class.
Nonetheless, when the kid objected, she was allowed to do an alternate assignment.
Reciting a pledge of allegiance is far from learning a national anthem.
When I lived in Canada, there was no pledge. But when the Canadian flag was raised, I stood with the rest and didn't sing the anthem. That's how you respectfully behave while maintaining loyalty to your own country.
As for the alternate assignment, it certainly sounded more difficult than the recitation.

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#80 Feb 28, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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No lawyer worth his salt would ever recommend that his clients answer the questions of the police.
woof
He also wouldn't tell his client to lie. There's a difference.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

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#81 Feb 28, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Somewhere between 0 and 25.
woof
I'm betting that the answer is zero. How do you get an F if you make an effort to recite ten lines of text? Even if you forget half of it, it's not going to net an F.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#82 Feb 28, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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No lawyer worth his salt would ever recommend that his clients answer the questions of the police.
woof
this above is your most accurate statement ever, for 2 reasons.

1.) the lawyer earns money.

2.) the lawyer bores the court; and the court gets tired of the case.

result a smaller court charge; and a big legal fee bill.

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#83 Feb 28, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>When 25 kids are assigned to recite something, how many could possibly get an F? My guess is none.
25 could possibly get an F.

This is fun.

Got any more riddles?

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#84 Feb 28, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>That wasn't the point. 1500 or 3000...both big schools, hardly insulated. Now if a high school is rural with 300 students total, that's fairly removed from quite a few things.
Get it?
Well, for the record, I went to one of those as well.

And in both there were kids who got Fs.

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#86 Feb 28, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Reciting a pledge of allegiance is far from learning a national anthem.
When I lived in Canada, there was no pledge. But when the Canadian flag was raised, I stood with the rest and didn't sing the anthem. That's how you respectfully behave while maintaining loyalty to your own country.
As for the alternate assignment, it certainly sounded more difficult than the recitation.
Not necessarily. The recitation would have required memorization and may have been graded on pronounciation as well.

An essay, on the other hand, is pretty broad. Presumably written in Spanish, but it could contain just about anything--since an essay is primarily an opinion piece.

Now, if the kid waited until the last minute and scribbled a paragraph containing the words history of Mexico--while the rest of the class did their memorization and recitation--this could easily have been an F.

Further, a kid going home with an F (and an F for the year must have required more than just the F on this single assignment) might well tell mommy and daddy that the teacher just had it in for her because she didn't want to be indoctrinated.

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#87 Feb 28, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>I'm betting that the answer is zero. How do you get an F if you make an effort to recite ten lines of text? Even if you forget half of it, it's not going to net an F.
So says you.

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#88 Feb 28, 2013
And btw--you presume that every one of 25 made the effort.

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#89 Feb 28, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Well, for the record, I went to one of those as well.
And in both there were kids who got Fs.
As I said, all I ever heard of it happening for was the failure to turn in assignments.

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#90 Feb 28, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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So says you.
As a former student and a parent with a kid still in school, yes.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

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#91 Feb 28, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Not necessarily. The recitation would have required memorization and may have been graded on pronounciation as well.
An essay, on the other hand, is pretty broad. Presumably written in Spanish, but it could contain just about anything--since an essay is primarily an opinion piece.
Now, if the kid waited until the last minute and scribbled a paragraph containing the words history of Mexico--while the rest of the class did their memorization and recitation--this could easily have been an F.
Further, a kid going home with an F (and an F for the year must have required more than just the F on this single assignment) might well tell mommy and daddy that the teacher just had it in for her because she didn't want to be indoctrinated.
Most parents would come to that conclusion on their own after hearing the whole story.

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#92 Feb 28, 2013
...the school being sued on behalf of the then-15-year-old sophomore, ironically allows students to opt out of reciting the American pledge but not the Mexican one.

Brinsdon’s mother was born in Mexico and she is fluent in both English and Spanish and is also proud of her Mexican roots. Nonetheless, she refused to take part in the exercise because her conscience would not allow her to pledge allegiance to a country other than the United States.

“Ironically, the assignment to recite the Mexican pledge was given during the school’s celebration of Freedom Week, marking the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks and also on U.S. Constitution Day,” the Thomas More Law Center notes.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/02/28/texas-...

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#93 Feb 28, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Most parents would come to that conclusion on their own after hearing the whole story.
Sounds legit to me. Parents are always entirely reasonable when it comes to their little snowflakes, I've found.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#94 Feb 28, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Most parents would come to that conclusion on their own after hearing the whole story.
You are projecting your own minimal expectations for your blackcockloving daughter and anycockloving son.

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#95 Feb 28, 2013
Santos gave Brenda an alternate assignment; write an essay on the Independence of Mexico. While performing above average on all previous assignments in the class, Brenda completed this assignment on time but was given a failing grade. She was also required to sit in class over the next several days and listen to student after student reciting the Mexican pledge.

Following the incident, Brenda was involuntarily removed from her Spanish class. She spent the class hour in the school's office, even though she requested to return to the classroom. Brenda was also given a failing grade on her report card, which was later corrected.

http://news.yahoo.com/one-texas-school-studen...

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