IRS Sued for Seizing 60M Medical Records

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#1 May 18, 2013
About that health care privacy....

http://preview.tinyurl.com/bxl8cfs

IRS Sued for Seizing 60 Million Medical Records

by Cheryl K. Chumley, Washington Times

A healthcare provider has sued the Internal Revenue Service and 15 of its agents, charging they wrongfully seized 60 million medical records from 10 million Americans.

The name of the provider is not yet known, United Press International said. But Courthouse News Service said the suit claims the agency violated the Fourth Amendment in 2011, when agents executed a search warrant for financial data on one employee -- and that led to the seizure of information on 10 million, including state judges.

The search warrant did not specify that the IRS could take medical information, UPI said. And information technology officials warned the IRS about the potential to violate medical privacy laws before agents executed the warrant, the complaint said, as reported by UPI.

“Despite knowing that these medical records were not within the scope of the warrant, defendants threatened to ‘rip’ the servers containing the medical data out of the building if IT personnel would not voluntarily hand them over,” the complaint states, UPI reported.

The suit also says IRS agents seized workers’ phones and telephone data – more violations of the warrant, UPI reported.

The complaint alleges the IRS was “invasive and unlawful” and stole access to intimate medical records that included patients’ treatment plans and therapies, UPI said.

The suit seeks $25,000 in compensatory damages, per violation. The records’ seizure could impact up to one in 25 Americans, UPI said.

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#2 May 18, 2013
Obama's IRS = jack-booted thugs

FTA:“Despite knowing that these medical records were not within the scope of the warrant, defendants threatened to ‘rip’ the servers containing the medical data out of the building if IT personnel would not voluntarily hand them over,” the complaint states, UPI reported.

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#3 May 18, 2013
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/05/1...

Ohio Tea Party Groups Plan To Sue IRS

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#4 May 18, 2013
-tip- wrote:
Obama's IRS = jack-booted thugs
FTA:“Despite knowing that these medical records were not within the scope of the warrant, defendants threatened to ‘rip’ the servers containing the medical data out of the building if IT personnel would not voluntarily hand them over,” the complaint states, UPI reported.
It will be interesting to see where this goes. However it is pretty common practice in financial audits of health care providers to test billing and receipts against patient records to ensure that billed services match.
The Mrs

Dublin, OH

#5 May 18, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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It will be interesting to see where this goes. However it is pretty common practice in financial audits of health care providers to test billing and receipts against patient records to ensure that billed services match.
We have been assured this sort of thing wouldn't happen. How big is the rock over your head, anyway?
The Mrs

Dublin, OH

#6 May 18, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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It will be interesting to see where this goes. However it is pretty common practice in financial audits of health care providers to test billing and receipts against patient records to ensure that billed services match.
Aren't you a liberal? If this happened under Bush's watch, you'd be screaming from the rooftops. From the OP:

when agents executed a search warrant for financial data on one employee -- and that led to the seizure of information on 10 million, including state judges.
The Mrs

Dublin, OH

#7 May 18, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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It will be interesting to see where this goes. However it is pretty common practice in financial audits of health care providers to test billing and receipts against patient records to ensure that billed services match.
The Internal Revenue Service could now be facing a class action lawsuit over allegations that it improperly accessed and stole the health records of some 10 million Americans, including medical records of all California state judges.
According to a report by Courthousenews.com , an unnamed HIPAA-covered entity in California is suing the IRS, alleging that some 60 million medical records from 10 million patients were stolen by 15 IRS agents. The personal health information seized on March 11, 2011, included psychological counseling, gynecological counseling, sexual/drug treatment and other medical treatment data.

http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/irs-face...

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#8 May 18, 2013
The Mrs wrote:
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We have been assured this sort of thing wouldn't happen. How big is the rock over your head, anyway?
This was not related to Obamacare.

By the looks of it--and the info provided is far from complete--it looks like an investigation into Medicaid or Medicare fraud.

BTW, you talk as if you know me. Are you just a long time lurker, or have we met here before? You call yourself The Mrs. Are you an actual spouse of someone here?
They cannot kill a spook

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#9 May 18, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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This was not related to Obamacare.
By the looks of it--and the info provided is far from complete--it looks like an investigation into Medicaid or Medicare fraud.
BTW, you talk as if you know me. Are you just a long time lurker, or have we met here before? You call yourself The Mrs. Are you an actual spouse of someone here?
Then why IRS and not FBI?
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#10 May 18, 2013
They cannot kill a spook wrote:
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Then why IRS and not FBI?
Highly illegal and against HIPPA laws. This may be what this administration was trying to get ahead of last week when they self reported the IRS targeting conservative groups and holding up 501C applications.

When they self-reported, it was evident there was something bigger they are trying to cover up.

I, for one, DO NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO BE PRIVY TO MY MEDICAL RECORDS IN ANY WAY.

Take a drug like prozac for a skin disease, such as psoriasis, and they'll be trying to seize your guns, claiming you're unstable.

This is BS and government over reach to the extreme. Where does it stop?
They cannot kill a spook

Detroit, MI

#11 May 18, 2013
Ralph the Mouth wrote:
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Highly illegal and against HIPPA laws. This may be what this administration was trying to get ahead of last week when they self reported the IRS targeting conservative groups and holding up 501C applications.
When they self-reported, it was evident there was something bigger they are trying to cover up.
I, for one, DO NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO BE PRIVY TO MY MEDICAL RECORDS IN ANY WAY.
Take a drug like prozac for a skin disease, such as psoriasis, and they'll be trying to seize your guns, claiming you're unstable.
This is BS and government over reach to the extreme. Where does it stop?
I agree with youI was just trying to see what path Reader was taking since she thinks it fruad.case not a.tax fruad case
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#12 May 18, 2013
They cannot kill a spook wrote:
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I agree with youI was just trying to see what path Reader was taking since she thinks it fruad.case not a.tax fruad case
Yeah, from what I've read Reader's path is always the same. All libs are victims and the government will protect them.

What she better start to see is that she and the other Obama worshippers are victims of the lib agenda. The governmnet owns them.

No surer way to enslave people than to make them dependent on you.

They don't even miss freedoms as they lose them.

Government intrusion is what it is. Illegal search and seizure by the feds.
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#13 May 18, 2013
ROFLMAO! I'm pretty sure this came up in conversation before, and I'm pretty sure Reader denied such a thing. And also, Reader, the article said state judges - state judges are on Medicaid? If so, I would like to know how judges live in affluent neighborhoods.

Good catch, Tip!
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#14 May 18, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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This was not related to Obamacare.
By the looks of it--and the info provided is far from complete--it looks like an investigation into Medicaid or Medicare fraud.
BTW, you talk as if you know me. Are you just a long time lurker, or have we met here before? You call yourself The Mrs. Are you an actual spouse of someone here?
Give me a break already! It happened in 2011 under the PPACA, Reader. It is stunning that you are in such denial.
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#15 May 18, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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Give me a break already! It happened in 2011 under the PPACA, Reader. It is stunning that you are in such denial.
Not stunning, typical.

One of the objectives of Obamacare was to have ALL OUR medical records at their fingertips.

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#16 May 19, 2013
Ralph the Mouth wrote:
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Highly illegal and against HIPPA laws. This may be what this administration was trying to get ahead of last week when they self reported the IRS targeting conservative groups and holding up 501C applications.
When they self-reported, it was evident there was something bigger they are trying to cover up.
I, for one, DO NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO BE PRIVY TO MY MEDICAL RECORDS IN ANY WAY.
Take a drug like prozac for a skin disease, such as psoriasis, and they'll be trying to seize your guns, claiming you're unstable.
This is BS and government over reach to the extreme. Where does it stop?
Read that HIPAA doc you have to sign at your doctor's office. It lays out not ONLY who may not have access, but also who may and why. Billing purposes are allowed, as well as court subpoenas..

Right now we have a bunch of folks yelling that agents overreached the subpoena. Obviously the agents disagree. So far the only SUBSTANTIATED wrongdoing that I see is the folks claiming that they know thar state judges were patients there.

Now, given the current climate and recently observed tactics from the right (check into the recent ABC news scoop and who was feeding them dysinformation), I am willkng to wait for a few more facts to be filled in before I commit to any conclusions.

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#17 May 19, 2013
The Mrs wrote:
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The Internal Revenue Service could now be facing a class action lawsuit over allegations that it improperly accessed and stole the health records of some 10 million Americans, including medical records of all California state judges.
According to a report by Courthousenews.com , an unnamed HIPAA-covered entity in California is suing the IRS, alleging that some 60 million medical records from 10 million patients were stolen by 15 IRS agents. The personal health information seized on March 11, 2011, included psychological counseling, gynecological counseling, sexual/drug treatment and other medical treatment data.
http://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/irs-face...
BTW--your article is about 2 months old.

Any action since that time?

Seems to be moving a bit slowly for all the hair on fire allegations.

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