Since: Apr 10

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#104 Jan 31, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I am fascinated by this mentality that has developed, or at least has emerged, that there is nothing anyone can do about wages, working conditions, prices, or anything else. The prevailing attitude seems to be that we are all at the mercy of our corporate Overlords and we should all be happy with whatever scraps they decide to throw down to us. And most importantly, we dare not anger them at all or they will take their shitty jobs overseas and then we will all be screwed.
U N I O N
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#105 Jan 31, 2014
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>Because no humans design, manufacture and maintain that equipment.
Brilliant.
ATMs and self checkouts were invented to reduce labor costs, not to increase them.

woof

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#106 Jan 31, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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you meant more self checkout lanes, and robotics installations.
That too.

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#107 Jan 31, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
ATMs and self checkouts were invented to reduce labor costs, not to increase them.
woof
Tell us how they reduce the labor costs of the companies that design, manufacture and maintain them.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#108 Jan 31, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
ATMs and self checkouts were invented to reduce labor costs, not to increase them.
woof
you forgot to speed things up as well.

people who use self check out get 3 trough the gate to 1 in a line

main reason is you touch items less.

touch's cost money.

The payor removing items from cart to scan then bag is one motion.

in line you unload cart and wait for someone to scan and bag then put back in your cart.

time is money to some.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#109 Jan 31, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that what you believe. We are slaves to our Corporate Overlords and we can only expect to receive what they graciously dole out to us?
No, I expect to receive exactly what I negotiate with my employer to receive. Of course, it helps if you have something to bargain with, like real skill and a work ethic.

Since: Apr 10

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#110 Jan 31, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
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No, I expect to receive exactly what I negotiate with my employer to receive. Of course, it helps if you have something to bargain with, like real skill and a work ethic.
Tony, that was the original idea of unions. To make safe working conditions, negotiate contracts, etc.
Of course today, as we all well know, they have bled union members of high membership fees,which in turn, the union spends it on politically motivated ads, plus asking outrageous wages from employers, and healthcare benefits.
One day, most unions, as we know them, will go by the way of the dodo bird.
As far as ethics....a lot of people don't have the same work ethic today as yesteryear!
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#111 Jan 31, 2014
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
<quoted text>Tell us how they reduce the labor costs of the companies that design, manufacture and maintain them.
They don't. They drastically reduce the numbers of people employed in the service industry, without providing an equivalent increase in the labor force employed by the corporations manufacture such equipment, such as Diebold.

I like dealing with warm blooded human beings when I go to the bank, the grocery store, etc..

I like chatting with the people who work there. I like providing them work. No matter how much you smile and talk to a machine, its not going to smile back at you.

Nor does it have a family to support at home.

woof

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#112 Jan 31, 2014
I'm not sure Scheherezade can pass up a reference to the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire here...

Miss you, big girl.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#113 Jan 31, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
you forgot to speed things up as well.
people who use self check out get 3 trough the gate to 1 in a line
main reason is you touch items less.
touch's cost money.
The payor removing items from cart to scan then bag is one motion.
in line you unload cart and wait for someone to scan and bag then put back in your cart.
time is money to some.
I'd rather wait a few minutes and give a cashier and a bagger a job.

woof

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#114 Jan 31, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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I'd rather wait a few minutes and give a cashier and a bagger a job.
woof
And you call yourselves "progressive."

Today, Americans comfortably purchase major appliances and even vehicles without once setting foot in a showroom. Time and technology wait for no man. That man must adapt and advance...or stagnate.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#115 Jan 31, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd rather wait a few minutes and give a cashier and a bagger a job.
woof
I have to agree! I tip the bagger,and the kids who load the cars.
I too, like to chat and usually go to the same chashier
I also chat with other shoppers whom I see all the time.
When I shop at
Costco, not the same. Different crowd, and besides, I zip around and get out of there ASAP because it's always crowded. I go at 10:00 when they open and am out by 10:25-30.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#116 Jan 31, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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And you call yourselves "progressive."
Today, Americans comfortably purchase major appliances and even vehicles without once setting foot in a showroom. Time and technology wait for no man. That man must adapt and advance...or stagnate.
Funny, but I have never placed that label upon myself. You have.

I simply told you why I like dealing with human beings in my everyday affairs, even in the most mundane transactions.

Very strange that you, a self avowed "Christian", would take issue with it.

Extremely strange.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#117 Jan 31, 2014
-tip- wrote:
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And you call yourselves "progressive."
Today, Americans comfortably purchase major appliances and even vehicles without once setting foot in a showroom. Time and technology wait for no man. That man must adapt and advance...or stagnate.
I wonder Tippyhead.

Have you considered that such blind willingness to embrace certain "technological advances" contributes directly to the exacerbation of the rates of unemployment among those of lower incomes?

woof

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#118 Jan 31, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Funny, but I have never placed that label upon myself. You have.
I simply told you why I like dealing with human beings in my everyday affairs, even in the most mundane transactions.
Very strange that you, a self avowed "Christian", would take issue with it.
Extremely strange.
woof
Where did I state that I "take issue with it"?

My point is that neither your, nor my. taking time to "chat up" the local clerks is "giving" them a job. Like everyone in advanced societies, their positions are subject to technological advances. There's simply no way around it.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#119 Jan 31, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder Tippyhead.
Have you considered that such blind willingness to embrace certain "technological advances" contributes directly to the exacerbation of the rates of unemployment among those of lower incomes?
woof
It's called incentive.
Like the NYC gifted classes referenced on another thread.

Or would you prefer that incentives be abolished in favor of holding all back?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#120 Jan 31, 2014
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did I state that I "take issue with it"?
My point is that neither your, nor my. taking time to "chat up" the local clerks is "giving" them a job. Like everyone in advanced societies, their positions are subject to technological advances. There's simply no way around it.
You are patently incorrect Tip.

Customers' desires and choices determine whether or not a company will stay in business and how many people they employ.

A profitable grocery store wishing to remain in business that finds its automatic checkouts either un, or underutilized will eventually hire more cashiers and baggers.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#121 Jan 31, 2014
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
It's called incentive.
Like the NYC gifted classes referenced on another thread.
Or would you prefer that incentives be abolished in favor of holding all back?
That is really one of the most ridiculous statements you have ever posted.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#122 Jan 31, 2014
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did I state that I "take issue with it"?
You derisively claimed that I am a "progressive".

I guess your memory is faltering.

woof

Trayvonius Martinez

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#123 Jan 31, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder Tippyhead.
Have you considered that such blind willingness to embrace certain "technological advances" contributes directly to the exacerbation of the rates of unemployment among those of lower incomes?
woof
Indeed...let's outlaw the automobile so that we may provide employment for blacksmiths and stable boys.
Outlaw passenger aircraft and you'll revive low end jobs in the railroad and steam ship lines.
Outlaw the internet and we'll bring back tens of thousands of jobs delivering newspapers.

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