d pantz

San Antonio, TX

#204 Feb 1, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
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It has since reduced itself to protecting the mediocre, the barely adequate, and the stupid and riding on the backs of the industrious.
rhetorical!
d pantz

San Antonio, TX

#205 Feb 1, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Annie...the bosses came later.
woof
actually they came with democrat politicians!
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#206 Feb 1, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> not so. The "free market"as your dumb ass defines it, had control over monetary policy... that's not a free market if the people don't have a voice.... every hear of the company store???? There never was a "free market" in the united states, ever! EVER! To say so is foolish!
You really are quite dense.

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#207 Feb 1, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
ever notice CEO's don't belong to the Union?
Or any management for that matter. They all negotiated and earned those positions by themselves.
Unions are for those who can't negotiate on their own, or have nothing to negotiate about.
A small business owner is President of the company and CEO.
You should stick with percentages.

woof
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#208 Feb 1, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's THEIR store. They'll do as they please. Don't like it? Don't go into that store. See how easy that is?
Yeah, that's my point, R2.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#209 Feb 1, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are an excellent worker, you don't have to be afraid to demand what your work is worth. It's the mediocre and the lazy that have to (and SHOULD!) worry. I suspect you've done a lot of worrying.
I do just fine, R2. Thanks for your concern. Where we differ is I have some concern for my fellow man. It is amazing how people like you cry tears of blood for corporations that are making record profits. While the disparity between the richest and the poorest gets wider and wider, you worry that the downfall of the economy will be a working man getting paid a decent wage. Incredible.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Medina, OH

#210 Feb 1, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
ever notice CEO's don't belong to the Union?
Or any management for that matter. They all negotiated and earned those positions by themselves.
Unions are for those who can't negotiate on their own, or have nothing to negotiate about.
A small business owner is President of the company and CEO.
Your understanding of everything is arrested at the 5th grade.

Since: Oct 10

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#211 Feb 1, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Annie...the bosses came later.
woof
Nope. Do some research. The same heads of the crime syndicates began demanding their member's services be used. They brought in 'hoodlums' to harass and often assault workers as they entered and left work at non-union shops.'Vote for the union or else.'

They were the bosses of illegal gambling, liquor distribution during prohibition, but they made a killing (pardon the pun) by organizing the unions. They collected their dues, they steered all business to union shops. Don't use union labor? Your factory burns down or your trucks all are sabatoged. As they prospered, they hired better lawyers and it all looks very legit.

'Course 'right to work' has cut into their profits big time.

Since: Oct 10

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#212 Feb 1, 2014
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> actually they came with democrat politicians!
The Kennedy patriarch, the bootlegger? And many others like him?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#213 Feb 1, 2014
Seriouslady wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. Do some research. The same heads of the crime syndicates began demanding their member's services be used. They brought in 'hoodlums' to harass and often assault workers as they entered and left work at non-union shops.'Vote for the union or else.'
They were the bosses of illegal gambling, liquor distribution during prohibition, but they made a killing (pardon the pun) by organizing the unions. They collected their dues, they steered all business to union shops. Don't use union labor? Your factory burns down or your trucks all are sabatoged. As they prospered, they hired better lawyers and it all looks very legit.
'Course 'right to work' has cut into their profits big time.
Like I said Annie.

The labor movement started because of the imbalance in bargaining power.

woof

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#214 Feb 1, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said Annie.
The labor movement started because of the imbalance in bargaining power.
woof
Yep it was all good in the beginning.

The anti-union movement was also started because of the imbalance in bargaining power.

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#215 Feb 1, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
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FACT CHECK.........
I found this from OCT 2012 regarding actual minimum wages in the UK which varies depending on the age of the employee.......... note: some increase may have occurred.....
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/oct/26/...
4.98 per hour for 18- 20-year-old workers=$8.25 US Dollars
3.68 per hour for 16- 17-year-old workers =$6.09 US Dollars
2.65 per hour, up from 2.60, for apprentices $4.30 US Dollars
only 21 and over
6.19 per hour, up from 6.08, for workers aged 21 and over =$10.24 Us Dollars
Wonder what the average age of everyone working at Mickey d's in the UK?
The average age of an hourly-paid employee is..........
.....wait for it..........20 years old.(According to Mickey D's)
http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/ukhome/whatmakesmc...
The average aged employee at a McDonald's in the UK makes approx $8.25 in US dollars
Price of a Big Mac in the US $3.57 (US tax not included)
Price of a big Mac in the UK 2.29 =$3.79 US dollars (UK higher tax not included)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index
Of course the third tier wage workers for Mickey D's in the UK, 16 -17 years of age (no numbers available) are making less than US workers.
US federal min wage $7.25.. some states are obviously higher...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/...
After reading the thread, I thought some folks might need to read this.

But hey, why not rehash .005 again endlessly? That's always fun.......
Hashed to smithereens

Columbus, OH

#216 Feb 1, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
But hey, why not rehash .005 again endlessly? That's always fun.......
Checked your screen name lately?

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#217 Feb 1, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
After reading the thread, I thought some folks might need to read this.
But hey, why not rehash .005 again endlessly? That's always fun.......
UK'S VAT is quite high.

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#218 Feb 1, 2014
Seriouslady wrote:
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This on has me shaking my head, Spook. I don't see any way that any federal employee or anyone working on a federal contract is not making $10.10 an hour, but rather much more than that.
My husband is in construction, and bb will be more knowledgeable on this than me on this, but any construction worker salivates to get on a federal job. The pay rates are MUCH higher than any private or local municipal contract.
I think very few will actually benefit form the raise to $10.10 per hour. Smoke and mirrors.
Now if they'd drop the stupid fed law that any minority owned company automatically gets a 25% discount on their bid on federal contracts, forcing a white male owned company to have to shave off 26% to even be considered, we MIGHT see some progress.
SL....

ALL public works projects, federal and state require that contractors pay the prevailing wage.
Prevailing wage is defined as what the relevant UNION rate for the same job would pay.

It is in the contract that a contractor must sign to accept a job. Certified payroll reports are required to document wages paid. Union companies must supply certified payroll as well. Trust me I know. The paperwork is a pain in the kester and an added expense.

Having personal knowledge of union wages, NONE are even close to below $10.10 per hour.

When I watched the state of the union speech I had a good laugh.

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#219 Feb 1, 2014
Hashed to smithereens wrote:
<quoted text>
Checked your screen name lately?
It's not that easy to get a free pizza...

You are gonna have to try harder...

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#220 Feb 1, 2014
Ms Reader^^^^^^^^

lol

“MAGA”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#221 Feb 1, 2014
Seriouslady wrote:
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UK'S VAT is quite high.
I did add that the UK higher taxes were NOT included in the final price of a big mac.

The cost of living is rising faster in the UK than anywhere in Europe, with soaring food and energy bills blamed

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-24631...

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#222 Feb 1, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
SL....
ALL public works projects, federal and state require that contractors pay the prevailing wage.
Prevailing wage is defined as what the relevant UNION rate for the same job would pay.
It is in the contract that a contractor must sign to accept a job. Certified payroll reports are required to document wages paid. Union companies must supply certified payroll as well. Trust me I know. The paperwork is a pain in the kester and an added expense.
Having personal knowledge of union wages, NONE are even close to below $10.10 per hour.
When I watched the state of the union speech I had a good laugh.
Well, we didn't watch the SOTU, husband was out of town on a job, but I'm aware of what you say..... I said MANY posts back, a reply to spook....someone would know more about it then me.( I think it was you ) When hubby and I discussed it briefly, I said very few would benefit because even at non union wages, in construction, everyone is making more than $10.00 hr, and as this $10.10 applies to federal employees only....just how many weren't making that and over prior to O's big announcement? Who will benefit? It's a non-event. I think that post was 4 or 5 of this thread.

That said, my husband is non union, but works on many municipal jobs where union scale is required to be paid and posted at the jobsite. But his men don't pay union dues. A few of my relatives, and his brother, are union affilated and they bitch about their dues a lot the last five years.

I haven't worked in it, but the amount of paperwork and liability coverage expenses and the regulations must require a TON of paperwork. He gets along well with the inspectors.:-)

I wish you'd go back and read that post, because there is something else you'd agree with, that I think we discussed in the past.

Since: Oct 10

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#223 Feb 1, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
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I did add that the UK higher taxes were NOT included in the final price of a big mac.
The cost of living is rising faster in the UK than anywhere in Europe, with soaring food and energy bills blamed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-24631...
I know you didn't. It's bascially at 20% now.

I'll tell you, if they'd modernize some of those 500 year and over old buildings they'd save a few pounds on energy!

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