Hillary under water in shocking new poll

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“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#1 Dec 3, 2013
The news keeps getting worse and worse for the Democratic Party as it contemplates 2014 and 2016. The congressional wing of the part finds itself strapped to Obamacare, a disaster that promises to anger voters even more next year than this, with tens of millions losing coverage through employer-provided policies, and back-end website chaos leaving people who thought they were covered uninsured when show up at the emergency room.

But Democrats comforted themselves with the notion that the "historic first" strategy that worked so well with Barack Obama would repeat itself in 2016 with Hillary Clinton becoming the Republic's first woman president. The excitement over the 51% of the population that is female mobilized to push Hillary and the entire ticket to success has been almost the sole comfort for the donkeys.

But there are signs that this is as much a fantasy as the notion that if you like your insurance and doctor, you can keep them. Paul Bedard writes in the Washington Examiner:

"A new YouGov/Economist poll found Clinton, whose approval ratings have typically been sky high, with an unfavorable rating of 48 percent, more than the 46 percent who have a favorable opinion of her.

The YouGov pollsters said that the change in American attitudes toward Clinton "suggests that negative press surrounding the tragic September 11, 2012 attack on the consulate in Benghazi, Libya, which led to the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others, may have impacted views about Clinton and her tenure at the State Department."

During her time at State, Clinton's favorable ratings were typically 15 points higher than her unfavorable ratings."

I always believed that Hillary's approval ratings as Secretary of State were purely the result of the enthusiastic media coverage she received, only an inch deep. After all, more than 99% of the population has no contact at all with State Department affairs, and few pay much attention to the details of foreign affairs, much less the role of the State Department. If the media said she was great, why so be it.

But once you look into the details of her tenure, the picture gets much more complicated. There was the embarrassing "reset" fiasco that led to a cave-in to Putin, who has triumphed in Syria and intimidated Ukraine away from its move toward an embrace of Europe. However, Benghazi is almost certainly the main source of her polling collapse.

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#2 Dec 3, 2013
The raspy near-shout with which she berated her inquisitors at a congressional hearing, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" worked in the short term, shutting up her critics. But in the long run, it will prove to be her undoing. Not only are the words and tone unattractive on their face, they betray a callous attitude toward loss of human life.

Moreover, Benghazi remains shrouded in lies and mystery. The entire fabrication of a story that a rogue video lay at the root of a terrorist attack is shameful, and is certain to be a factor in any presidential election run with Hillary as a candidate.

The big problem Democrats face is that aside from Hillary, they have got nothing very appealing. Joe Biden is making moves as if he is in the race, but a gaffe-prone glad-hander may be OK in a small state like Delaware where the average citizen expects to meet his senator, and it works very well in the Senate, a club with 100 members. However, the presidential derby is far more demanding, and gaffes do not play well.

Then there is Elizabeth Warren, a far left intellectual who only made it onto the Harvard faculty because of her faux claims of Native American heritage. In Massachusetts, one the deepest blue states, she came close to losing to a Republican.

Maybe there is a dark horse out there for the Dems if Hillary continues to collapse. Three years, to 2016, is an eternity. But for now, Obamacare and Hillary resemble two millstones around the neck of the Democratic Party.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/h...

Since: Dec 11

Middletown, OH

#3 Dec 3, 2013
The Hildabeast. Round and round the ceramic bowl and down you go with your Commie commander and thief.
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#5 Dec 3, 2013
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
The news keeps getting worse and worse for the Democratic Party as it contemplates 2014 and 2016. The congressional wing of the part finds itself strapped to Obamacare, a disaster that promises to anger voters ...blah, blah, blah.....
Is idiocy catching? Which reTHUGlican infected you, putzboy?:)
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#6 Dec 3, 2013
Shanikwah wrote:
The Hildabeast. Round and round the ceramic bowl and down you go with your Commie commander and thief.
Only a real, antique moron would still be calling people he doesn't like "commies."

Thanks, gramps! LOL

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#7 Dec 3, 2013
fingiswold wrote:
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Is idiocy catching? Which reTHUGlican infected you, putzboy?:)
Where's your boy in the polls today...boy? How's Obamacare doing...boy?
They cannot kill a Spook

Toledo, OH

#8 Dec 3, 2013
fingiswold wrote:
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Only a real, antique moron would still be calling people he doesn't like "commies."
Thanks, gramps! LOL
Call them socialist, Stalinist, commies or progressives. No matter what you call them they are still two legged vermin and enemies of freedom.
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#9 Dec 3, 2013
Trayvonius Martinez wrote:
The news keeps getting worse and worse for the Democratic Party as it contemplates 2014 and 2016. The congressional wing of the part finds itself strapped to Obamacare, a disaster that promises to anger voters even more next year than this, with tens of millions losing coverage through employer-provided policies, and back-end website chaos leaving people who thought they were covered uninsured when show up at the emergency room.
But Democrats comforted themselves with the notion that the "historic first" strategy that worked so well with Barack Obama would repeat itself in 2016 with Hillary Clinton becoming the Republic's first woman president. The excitement over the 51% of the population that is female mobilized to push Hillary and the entire ticket to success has been almost the sole comfort for the donkeys.
But there are signs that this is as much a fantasy as the notion that if you like your insurance and doctor, you can keep them. Paul Bedard writes in the Washington Examiner:
"A new YouGov/Economist poll found Clinton, whose approval ratings have typically been sky high, with an unfavorable rating of 48 percent, more than the 46 percent who have a favorable opinion of her.
The YouGov pollsters said that the change in American attitudes toward Clinton "suggests that negative press surrounding the tragic September 11, 2012 attack on the consulate in Benghazi, Libya, which led to the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others, may have impacted views about Clinton and her tenure at the State Department."
During her time at State, Clinton's favorable ratings were typically 15 points higher than her unfavorable ratings."
I always believed that Hillary's approval ratings as Secretary of State were purely the result of the enthusiastic media coverage she received, only an inch deep. After all, more than 99% of the population has no contact at all with State Department affairs, and few pay much attention to the details of foreign affairs, much less the role of the State Department. If the media said she was great, why so be it.
But once you look into the details of her tenure, the picture gets much more complicated. There was the embarrassing "reset" fiasco that led to a cave-in to Putin, who has triumphed in Syria and intimidated Ukraine away from its move toward an embrace of Europe. However, Benghazi is almost certainly the main source of her polling collapse.
this is a good thread.
Let me remind all the lefties that hillary voted for the Iraq war, the patriot act, and the Haliburton loophole. So if you want to be total hypocrites, keep endorsing her.
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#10 Dec 3, 2013
I wonder how many people have walked into a hospital after signing up for public health insurance and said "here I am. I want my free healthcare now." ROTFLMAO

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#12 Dec 3, 2013
Good

The people must be reminded of the failures of Hillary.

But we can't lose sight of the fact that fear of Hillary is what is moving the establishment in favor of Fatboy.
Conservative

Springfield, OH

#13 Dec 3, 2013
Hillary will have a hard time fending off the fact that she and Bill wanted essentially the same Health Care take over but couldn't get the votes. Republicans controlled Congress.

I'd like to hear her explanation when that comes up.

The one thing Dems can count on is the stupidity of the American People.

The Health Care law is kind of like gas prices. People complain and complain about the price but eventually accept the fact that it's the way it is and will accept it.

They will then re-elect the same ones they hated the week before. The ones who gave them obamacare.
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#14 Dec 4, 2013
Its all rhetorical. What will happen? So far we only have a little more than a month of aha to compare to the old system. I do love the way there all over the place talking about how no one has an argument now because the website is "running smoothly" (that's what they say). I'm pretty sure its the other way around. Compare what happened last month to the "old broken system" and its easy to see the DNC only has a defense and no offense. Especially when Ohbummer promises to veto a bill that would make the new law cover pre existing conditions immediately instead of next year.
d pantz

Chicago, IL

#15 Dec 4, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
Good
The people must be reminded of the failures of Hillary.
But we can't lose sight of the fact that fear of Hillary is what is moving the establishment in favor of Fatboy.
I don't think he'll make it past the primaries. Look at the state of NJ, it's the butthole of the USA.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#17 Dec 4, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
<quoted text>
She's a real shytt sangwich, but she's better than any of the Republicans. Hopefully another viable Democratic candidate will reveal him/herself before 2016.
As bad as she is, the Republicans don't stand a chance against her no matter how much they bloviate.
Bernie Sanders - Admitted Socialist

Elizabeth "Fake Indian" Warren

Sherrod "Cocaine" Brown

Joe "Back in Chains" Biden
d pantz

United States

#18 Dec 4, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
<quoted text>
She's a real shytt sangwich, but she's better than any of the Republicans. Hopefully another viable Democratic candidate will reveal him/herself before 2016.
As bad as she is, the Republicans don't stand a chance against her no matter how much they bloviate.
Speaking of the butthole of the USA, here is a freshly cut turd. What it do, Kiddy?? Most of your friends aren't that popular with the American people either. The whole system, except for a few , is illegitimate if you base it on public opinion.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#19 Dec 4, 2013
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text> Speaking of the butthole of the USA, here is a freshly cut turd. What it do, Kiddy?? Most of your friends aren't that popular with the American people either. The whole system, except for a few , is illegitimate if you base it on public opinion.
Due to a court decision in the 1980s that counts illegals as equal to citizens when determining House seat appropriation, many of the hard left are elected in districts with half the voters compared to neighboring whiter districts.

This gives the Ds a 30 seat boost in the House, and easily cancels out the gains the Rs have from gerrymandering.

So while they might be unpopular, few will be booted except for the red state Senate Ds like Landrieu and Pryor.

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#22 Dec 4, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
<quoted text>
With the exception of Joe Biden, those are more palatable choices than Hillary.
And all just as unelectable as Uncle Joe.
Scheherazade

Reynoldsburg, OH

#23 Dec 4, 2013
LOL!!! You folks are funny....you're positively petrified of Hillary Clinton and we got two years to go....you accus liberals and progressives of being scared of Caribou Barbie but that deflection is NOTHING compared to this shock and awe you're gonna be going through...

THIS is going to be the next gift that keeps on giving....you're going to work yourselves up into SUCH a lather over this inevitable outcome.....That President Hillary Clinton will be rolling off of your tongues before you know it...I'm gonna get my popcorn and enjoy this !!!

In the meantime, read this and weep....

16 Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Win 2016
Myra Adams
August 3rd 20134:45 am
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08...
[I won't list them all, I'll just give myou my top three from the article - Scher.]

Sorry, folks, this race is over. Conservative Myra Adams lists the many reasons Hillary will win the White House in 2016—from gross media bias to groupthink and barrels of money.

1. Madame President: A Great Social Movement in the Making

A great social movement to elect the first Madame President is gathering wind and will reach sustained hurricane strength on November 5, 2014—the day after the midterm elections and the “official start” of the 2016 presidential campaign.

4. Organization the Obama Way

Hillary’s campaign-in-waiting, the Ready for Hillary PAC, is readying itself to turn into her official campaign as soon as Madame General signs the battle order.

Some top-notch Obama campaign talent, Jeremy Bird and Mitch Stewart, have already been hired to build an organization similar to President Obama’s two nearly flawless, state-of-the-art campaigns. It would be nearly impossible for the Republican presidential candidate to quickly build and match what will then be a huge national campaign organization with a three-year head start. For even the Republican challenger, it would appear as if Hillary were the incumbent.

8. The Hispanic Voting Bloc Is Hillary’s to Lose
9. The African-American and Asian Vote Is Also Hillary’s to Lose

The Republican Party was hardly surprised when Obama won the African-American vote by 93 percent to 6 percent in 2012. But they were surprised that he won the Asian American vote by a wide margin of 73 percent to 26 percent. Will Hillary resonate as well with both these two groups?

I can only take a wild guess about Asian-Americans’ attitude toward Hillary, but I do remember Bill Clinton being called America’s first black president well before we had one.
They cannot kill a Spook

Toledo, OH

#24 Dec 4, 2013
Too bad Hitlery wasn't really underwater.....and Monic Lewinsky was standing on the back of her head.

“Seven Days In May”

Since: Oct 13

Hilliard, OH

#25 Dec 4, 2013
What happened to Crusty in 2008, Gabby? And to think...that was coming off eight years of Bush, no "reset" with Russia, no Benghazi and no Obamacare. Oh, and she wasn't almost 70 years old then, either.

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