Our Nation Has Incompetents At Its Hi...

Our Nation Has Incompetents At Its Highest Levels

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Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#1 Nov 13, 2012
I’m literally having trouble breathing right now I’m laughing so hard, and in addition I spat my afternoon espresso all over my keyboard, so if there’s a letter that is missing in my text, that’s the reason (I shorted it out!)

It is being reported by CNBC this afternoon (I just heard it) that Petraeus and his mistress, in an attempt to conceal their email traffic, had a “shared” Gmail account and used the “drafts” folder as a means of communicating; each would sign in, write a “draft”, not send it, then the other would sign in and read it, etc.

Of course this leaves the actual text exposed all over the place, and what’s worse is that it probably leaves these “drafts” all over backup media in unencrypted form as well.

Now let’s recap:

This is the chief of our spookworks and he can’t manage to figure out how to send a secure email message to his mistress!

Oh.

My.

God.

THIS is the state of so-called “cyber-security” at the highest levels of our supposedly-secure “government”?

It is utterly trivial to grab a free copy of PGP and Thunderbird (or your other favorite program) along with the Enigmail plug-in and create anextremely strong encrypted email transport system for your own private use. You can do the same thing with AGP and K9Mail on Android for you Android phone users. You can look up my public key on my home page if you’d like (or on any of the many PGP keyservers) and send me an encrypted (or signed and encrypted) email.(By the way, if you do that use the newest key — I literallyforgot the passphrase on the older keys and as such if you use them not only you not decrypt it but neither can I!)

If you do, and the spooks (like, for instance the FBI) intercept your message they’re going to have a lot of fun trying to read it no matter where they intercept it — on your computer, on my computer, on one of the computers between you and I, anywhere.

Their options are to try to compel me to give up the passphrase to unlock the private key necessary to decrypt the message (e.g. by torturing me), hope I saved the message somewhere unencrypted (or that you did) where they can find it in plain form or to try to break the private key’s passphrase with brute force, which takes a lot of computer power.

I have no doubt that eventually they can accomplish breaking the lock on the keyfile, but it might require enough time and computational effort that it’s not worth it. For example, they might be able to break it in 40 years, but odds are I’ll be dead first and thus I don’t give a damn if they can break it in that amount of time or not.

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#2 Nov 13, 2012
I’m only interested in whether they can break the lock before the message’s useful life expires.

Now there are those who argue that so-called “public key” cryptography is in fact insecure and that our government has compromised it and has a “back door” into all of it. Maybe they do and maybe they don’t but it’s utterly certain that it takes a lot more effort on their part to intercept a message encrypted in such a fashion than one that isn’t encrypted at all!

The real scandal here isn’t, in my view, whether Petraeus was having an affair or even if he disclosed classified secrets to his mistress. Indeed, that’s one of the things you have to assume when there’s a “honey” involved; “honey pots” are by definition dangerous from a operational security point of view in that in the purely-mundane view with zero intent to disclose you might talk in your sleep and as such anyone you share a bedroom with could plausibly hear something that you know and is classified!

No, the real scandal here is that our so-called “Chief Spy” is too functionally-illiterate in cyber-security to manage to send a message to his mistress that is end-to-end encrypted and thus unreadable by the FBI.

As such we all must assume that similar stupidity permeates official message channels and our enemies can read the messages just as easily as the FBI did.

Our nation has incompetents at its highest levels involved in essential government functions where competence is assumed by everyone.

We’re ****ed.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/our-nation-has...
notlocal

AOL

#3 Nov 14, 2012
You always come up with the good and funny stuff.

I don't care so much that they're incompetent, if they just weren't so damn corrupt.

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#4 Nov 14, 2012
notlocal wrote:
You always come up with the good and funny stuff.
I don't care so much that they're incompetent, if they just weren't so damn corrupt.
Both incompetence and corruption can and will get citizens killed. Benghazi proved that.
Thanks for the compliment...the trolls will be along any minute to moan and cry about why I post such a "cesspool" of a thread.

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#6 Nov 14, 2012
More Cleavie Wisdom wrote:
Another cat hole latrine dug by our trolling piss ant.
I rest my case.

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#7 Nov 14, 2012
Actually, Georgie, I find it "funny" that they have this sense of entitlement and are beyond reproach. I don't think this is anything new, just stupidity of they would never look at MY e-mail accounts. I find it ironic that the person that started the ball rolling thought she was safe because she had special license plates. I love irony.
Disclaimer: not following the other Petraeus thread, skimmed your post, blaming gokeefe for my horrid cold, not that I've seen her recently, but she seems like a good scapegoat. So if my post is stupid, so be it :)
Jfa

Akron, OH

#8 Nov 14, 2012
More Cleavie Wisdom wrote:
Another cat hole latrine dug by our trolling piss ant.
Another Marxist troll who fails to heed the lessons of history...

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#9 Nov 14, 2012
GlitterSucks wrote:
Actually, Georgie, I find it "funny" that they have this sense of entitlement and are beyond reproach. I don't think this is anything new, just stupidity of they would never look at MY e-mail accounts. I find it ironic that the person that started the ball rolling thought she was safe because she had special license plates. I love irony.
Disclaimer: not following the other Petraeus thread, skimmed your post, blaming gokeefe for my horrid cold, not that I've seen her recently, but she seems like a good scapegoat. So if my post is stupid, so be it :)
The stupidity displayed by two top generals is what should anger every American.
Then there's the bimbo mentality of the two women involved...shake those asses and pretend to be bigshots.
But the topper is the two MD husbands of the hoes...apparently doctors with such wives are incredibly clueless or completely detached from their marriages.

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#10 Nov 14, 2012
Cleavon Little wrote:
<quoted text>The stupidity displayed by two top generals is what should anger every American.
Then there's the bimbo mentality of the two women involved...shake those asses and pretend to be bigshots.
But the topper is the two MD husbands of the hoes...apparently doctors with such wives are incredibly clueless or completely detached from their marriages.
Everyone involved in this story, that is still evolving, is an idiot. As soap operas are going to the wayside, life gives me real ones. The writers on the soaps are jealous, they couldn't even come up with this sh#t.

BTW- I am disgusted with the whole thing. Wake up every morning, turn on the news, really dumasses?

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#11 Nov 14, 2012
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone involved in this story, that is still evolving, is an idiot. As soap operas are going to the wayside, life gives me real ones. The writers on the soaps are jealous, they couldn't even come up with this sh#t.
BTW- I am disgusted with the whole thing. Wake up every morning, turn on the news, really dumasses?
Mrs P comes off looking really clueless, too. The ones who deserve the sympathy are all the kids involved. Even the grown ones; Stephen Petraeus is a 23 year old 2nd Lieutenant in the Army. That kid already had enough to deal with having dad as a four star and CIA director. Now? He's screwed.
Jfa

Akron, OH

#12 Nov 14, 2012
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone involved in this story, that is still evolving, is an idiot. As soap operas are going to the wayside, life gives me real ones. The writers on the soaps are jealous, they couldn't even come up with this sh#t.
BTW- I am disgusted with the whole thing. Wake up every morning, turn on the news, really dumasses?
What do you expect, the President deliberately did nothing in Benghazi because he was afraid of offending Muslims.

He send an American to jail for daring to criticize Muhammad.

This guy hates the principles that the nation was built on, and its builders.

Petraeus has been screwing women on the side for years, they had him under control and forced him to lie to Congress.

“Not insane-mom had me tested”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#13 Nov 14, 2012
I bet they got that email idea from reading one of Brad Thor's or Vince Flynn's political thrillers. ....all the al-qaeda bigwigs in those books communicated that way. :o) Petraeus must have thought that was a pretty clever idea.
notlocal

AOL

#14 Nov 14, 2012
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone involved in this story, that is still evolving, is an idiot. As soap operas are going to the wayside, life gives me real ones. The writers on the soaps are jealous, they couldn't even come up with this sh#t.
BTW- I am disgusted with the whole thing. Wake up every morning, turn on the news, really dumasses?
Well, they are bimboish women, striving for attention and bigger implants. We all know that Kelly and her MD husband were in hock up to their necks, yet she kept on throwing lavish parties to rub sholders (LOL) with people with some kind of standing. Helps her forget what her true position is, I guess.

The men involved.....my husband said when this first broke,'whiskey in a glass or a good piece of a*s have brought down more men than enemy fire.'

But seriously, any man with any authority, no matter at what level, is going to get these come on's from women who want to 'step up' their own agenda. Answer is: You don't return the call. And any woman working for them, you step in and protect them from theirselves. I've done it more than once with my boss, and if he didn't listen, I put a call into one of his lawyers. He listened to them.

So now we wait to see who Jill's sister was sleeping with. If anyone cares.

I didn't hear Obama today. From the "clips" I've heard, sounds like he's not afraid of anything that may come out and has his cover all in place.
notlocal

AOL

#15 Nov 14, 2012
Bazinga wrote:
I bet they got that email idea from reading one of Brad Thor's or Vince Flynn's political thrillers.....all the al-qaeda bigwigs in those books communicated that way.:o) Petraeus must have thought that was a pretty clever idea.
Patraeus wasn't thinking anyone could touch him. He was invincibale. It was an 'open secret' for years. So how much investigating did the FBI have to do?

Feet of clay. And he's not going to be truthful on Friday.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#16 Nov 14, 2012
Cleavon Little wrote:
<quoted text>Mrs P comes off looking really clueless, too. The ones who deserve the sympathy are all the kids involved. Even the grown ones; Stephen Petraeus is a 23 year old 2nd Lieutenant in the Army. That kid already had enough to deal with having dad as a four star and CIA director. Now? He's screwed.
Petraeus was a suck up in his own right:

... Two months after graduation Petraeus married Holly Knowlton, a daughter of Army General William A. Knowlton, who was superintendent of West Point at the time.[24] Holly, who is multi-lingual, was a National Merit Scholar in high school, and graduated summa cum laude from Dickinson College. They have a daughter and son, Anne and Stephen.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#17 Nov 14, 2012
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone involved in this story, that is still evolving, is an idiot. As soap operas are going to the wayside, life gives me real ones. The writers on the soaps are jealous, they couldn't even come up with this sh#t.
BTW- I am disgusted with the whole thing. Wake up every morning, turn on the news, really dumasses?
You guys know where I'm at on this one: Blame the 60's. How would you feel knowing your mother was a sex toy? The gutter has permeated all of society, although it has always been at the highest reaches of power.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#18 Nov 14, 2012
notlocal wrote:
<quoted text>
Patraeus wasn't thinking anyone could touch him. He was invincibale. It was an 'open secret' for years. So how much investigating did the FBI have to do?
Feet of clay. And he's not going to be truthful on Friday.
Someone on TV or on one of the articles mentioned that there is a class of woman in Washington that is always attracted to power. You can tell by the flash in her eyes that she is available. That's why you have this phenomenon where you have these nerdy guys from completely normal backgrounds who go to Washington and all the wheels fall off.

I'm not claiming to be a high-status or high power individual, though some people do seem to think so on the secretarial side of things. I've seen the flash (one of my coworkers had his marriage wrecked by the flash) and had my chances myself ... not lately, though. LOL.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#19 Nov 14, 2012
Cleavon Little wrote:
But the topper is the two MD husbands of the hoes...apparently doctors with such wives are incredibly clueless or completely detached from their marriages.
Like I said in the other threads:

1. Doctors' wives: apparently just as oversexed as teachers.

2. How do you feel if you're the MD with the trophy wife, who just spread her legs for someone of higher status than you? Gee, and I thought they were in love. LOL

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#20 Nov 14, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said in the other threads:
1. Doctors' wives: apparently just as oversexed as teachers.
2. How do you feel if you're the MD with the trophy wife, who just spread her legs for someone of higher status than you? Gee, and I thought they were in love. LOL
Those women see MD as Mucho Dinero and nothing more.

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