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#23 Dec 30, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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How much suffering are they doing making 61% higher than the average civilian worker?
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/12/are-federal-...
Couldn't open your link (computer moving too slow). However, if it is the data that is usually offered up, it does not compare like positions, but rather compares federal workers as a group to non-government workers as a group.

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#24 Dec 30, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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Before I retired, yes.
Really.

And just exactly how did your company go about determining a "budget surplus"?

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

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#25 Dec 30, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Couldn't open your link (computer moving too slow). However, if it is the data that is usually offered up, it does not compare like positions, but rather compares federal workers as a group to non-government workers as a group.
It doesn't matter what positions are compared. What matters is they make 61% more than the average American, so how exactly are they "suffering"?

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#26 Dec 30, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Really.
And just exactly how did your company go about determining a "budget surplus"?
It's called profit. I'm sure you've heard of it. When it exceeded a certain amount, everyone got raises.

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#28 Dec 30, 2012
When you include benefits, it's double!

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/economy/...

Those poor suffering babies...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#29 Dec 31, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Then stop cheating on your taxes Karl.
woof
when are you going to start paying tax yourself?

have you set your goal to earn more than minimum wage in 2013 yet?
VADoc

Aiken, SC

#30 Dec 31, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Well, congratulations. State employees did not. Neither did a lot of local government employees, some of who took cuts.
And the majority probably make a good deal less than a doc at the VA.
Your empathy is profound and stunning--NOT!
Then they can go get more education and make what I make. Why should you get a raise as a state employee reader? What part of your job as a social worker involves living on topix when you are at work?
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#31 Dec 31, 2012
how do you raise govt pay, when the govt is shutdown?

the forced balanced budget as result of surfing over the cliff will result in pink slips for govt employees.

enjoy the ride......you voted for it.

enjoy.
VADoc

Duluth, GA

#32 Dec 31, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
how do you raise govt pay, when the govt is shutdown?
the forced balanced budget as result of surfing over the cliff will result in pink slips for govt employees.
enjoy the ride......you voted for it.
enjoy.
Yep I foresee some pink slips coming. It will be low level workers and a few top heavy middle managers. Working in Georgia most of the people I work with vote straight D each year. I'm sure they'll blame GW Bush when they get their pink slip. The sad thing is they will then use their ability to bump a newer worker out of a job. So the person who voted in Obama will keep their job and possibly someone who didn't will lose theirs.

It's going to get rough for everyone the next 4 years. I guess I will have to go back to teaching or working a few long term care PRN shifts if things get rough. Not doing it right now because it would push my wife and I into the next tax bracket and it would just mean I'm working for free. If I want to work for free ill go on an extra medical missions trip this year.

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#33 Dec 31, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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It doesn't matter what positions are compared. What matters is they make 61% more than the average American, so how exactly are they "suffering"?
Someone might make 61% more than someone who mows lawns for a living. Still, if they are working as a registered nurse, they would be likely to be underpaid compared to other registered nurses.

Why is this hard to understand?

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#34 Dec 31, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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It's called profit. I'm sure you've heard of it. When it exceeded a certain amount, everyone got raises.
And you don't understand why that doesn't apply to government work?

Profit is not the same as budget surplus.

Further, in government budget surplus is largely the result of mis-forecasting either revenue (anticipating less than actual) or expenses (allocating more than is ultimately needed).

And while the federal government is able to operate with budget deficits, most state governments are prohibited by law from doing so. Not only can they not operate in debt, they also are limited in the amount of carry-over from budget to budget. So, the goal is NOT to achieve a surplus, but rather to balance.
VADoc

Aiken, SC

#35 Dec 31, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Someone might make 61% more than someone who mows lawns for a living. Still, if they are working as a registered nurse, they would be likely to be underpaid compared to other registered nurses.
Why is this hard to understand?
Not true. I made the same without factoring in benefits working in private sector as I did as an RN in va system.
Disgusting

Columbus, OH

#36 Dec 31, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Actually, the raise for legislators would be a scant $900/year.
And the across the board average is between .5 and 1%. And this follows a three year freeze--also carried out by Executive Order.
Now, you wanna revisit how this parallels Wall Street bonuses?
No.Not with your mindset.The average worker is going to be hit with higher taxes...not a scant $900.00 raise.I'm for the average worker not the crooks in Washington or Wall Street.More Pink slips are coming.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#37 Dec 31, 2012
how do you raise pay of govt workers when a forced balanced budget takes effect in 9 hours?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

seems to me that a run on pink paper has come.
Disgusting

Columbus, OH

#38 Dec 31, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
how do you raise govt pay, when the govt is shutdown?
the forced balanced budget as result of surfing over the cliff will result in pink slips for govt employees.
enjoy the ride......you voted for it.
enjoy.
Let them free fall all the way down...they voted for it.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#39 Dec 31, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Really.
And just exactly how did your company go about determining a "budget surplus"?
quite easily actually

when the year ends; and money is left in the checkbook, that is a surplus.

if there is no money; and borrowing must take place to proceed, then that is called stupid federal govt antics.

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#40 Dec 31, 2012
VADoc wrote:
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Not true. I made the same without factoring in benefits working in private sector as I did as an RN in va system.
That was an example. The point is that cmparing apples to oranges does not work.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#41 Dec 31, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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That was an example. The point is that cmparing apples to oranges does not work.
you do it daily to try to make your useless points about everything.

PS: 95% of the time you are wrong.

during 2012 I think I agreed with you 6 times.
3 of which I was sticking up for you.

Have a great 2013.

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#42 Dec 31, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Someone might make 61% more than someone who mows lawns for a living. Still, if they are working as a registered nurse, they would be likely to be underpaid compared to other registered nurses.
Why is this hard to understand?
The "average" citizen isn't mowing lawns for a living (yet). The "average" federal worker has had steady (except for step increases) pay for three years wile the "average" citizen's pay has fallen for four years. And now, while the average citizens' wages are continuing to fall (and the rate of fall will likely increase over at least the next couple of years), the feds get a raise? It's NOT right, and anyone who thinks it is needs brain replacement surgery.

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#43 Dec 31, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
how do you raise govt pay, when the govt is shutdown?
the forced balanced budget as result of surfing over the cliff will result in pink slips for govt employees.
But at least the ones who are left will get their raise.

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