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anthropologist: When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite

There are 33 comments on the anthropologist.livejournal.com story from May 11, 2012, titled anthropologist: When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite. In it, anthropologist.livejournal.com reports that:

Contrary to myth, Christianity's concept of marriage has not been set in stone since the days of Christ, but has constantly evolved as a concept and ritual. In addition to heterosexual marriage ceremonies in ancient Christian church liturgical documents, there were also ceremonies called the "Office of Same-Sex Union" (10th and 11th century), and the "Order for Uniting Two Men" (11th and 12th century).

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“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

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#21 May 15, 2012
40Runner wrote:
<quoted text>Again you make the claim...
"a behavior that is carried out widely in nature is natural."
Yet a thousand cases out of approximately 8 or 9 MILLION species is hardly "carried out WIDELY" .018% is hardly “widespread”
Uhm...it gets ridiculous if you're going to compare the sexual behaviors of humans and insects.

You pretty much have to restrict the discussion to mammals. But since we're primates, we might as well just talk about primates. Same sex sexual behavior is a normal and natural behavior for primates.

Sure, it's not normal for insects. Humans don't have sex like insects. We also don't have sex like bacteria. So why are you making ridiculous and stupid claims?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

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#22 May 15, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, most species on the planet reproduce asexually or bisexually. Over 70% of the species today reproduce asexually, they just split, mitosis I believe is the term. Amphibians reproduce bisexually, as they will spontaneously change gender when needed.
If you really know anything about the animal kingdom, the actual act of sex itself is rare, about 0.001% actually have intercourse, even when there is a strict gender difference. Of those, 90% of the species that have actual intercourse have shown homosexual tendencies in large populations. Homosexuality also has a survival quality for the species, so this alone makes it natural, yet the fact that it happens at all makes it natural, the fact that it's common makes it beneficial.
Nicely said! That guy's either thick or trying to make a political statement.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#23 May 15, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Nicely said! That guy's either thick or trying to make a political statement.
Thank you, I may not know much about the historical animal kingdom, compared to an anthropologist, but I do know a bit about the modern one due to being an animal rights activist, but not the insane PETA type.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

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#24 May 15, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Thank you, I may not know much about the historical animal kingdom, compared to an anthropologist, but I do know a bit about the modern one due to being an animal rights activist, but not the insane PETA type.
I really only study humans within evolutionary framework. My knowledge of other animals is incidental.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#25 May 15, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I really only study humans within evolutionary framework. My knowledge of other animals is incidental.
Still probably better than mine, I just started actually studying evolution, and there is no way I can remember the names and details of all that. Not even going to try to get that far. LOL

I recognize the human lineage simply because AronRa speaks clear enough that I can understand what he's saying when he uses the names. I still can't spell them for the life of me.

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#26 May 15, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, most species on the planet reproduce asexually or bisexually. Over 70% of the species today reproduce asexually, they just split, mitosis I believe is the term. Amphibians reproduce bisexually, as they will spontaneously change gender when needed.
If you really know anything about the animal kingdom, the actual act of sex itself is rare, about 0.001% actually have intercourse, even when there is a strict gender difference. Of those, 90% of the species that have actual intercourse have shown homosexual tendencies in large populations. Homosexuality also has a survival quality for the species, so this alone makes it natural, yet the fact that it happens at all makes it natural, the fact that it's common makes it beneficial.
Don't forget that most plants reproduce sexually, but with a necessary third-part involvement (bees).

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#27 May 15, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Don't forget that most plants reproduce sexually, but with a necessary third-part involvement (bees).
Ah yes, the trisexual reproduction. I did forget to mention that form. If you compare heterosexual reproduction to all the other forms, heterosexuality actually becomes the real perversion in nature. LOL

“Think&Care”

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#28 May 15, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Don't forget that most plants reproduce sexually, but with a necessary third-part involvement (bees).
Or the species of fungi that have *hundreds* of genders.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#29 May 15, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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Or the species of fungi that have *hundreds* of genders.
I kind of lump those with the bisexual, I literally cannot think of a word that describes their reproduction, other than massive orgy. But orgy is actually what a lot of mammals do, felines and canines are the most notorious, they mate with many partners before they have a litter.

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#30 May 15, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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I kind of lump those with the bisexual, I literally cannot think of a word that describes their reproduction, other than massive orgy. But orgy is actually what a lot of mammals do, felines and canines are the most notorious, they mate with many partners before they have a litter.
And don't forget our dear little Bonobos, for whom erotic play is the favorite sport and conflict solver.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

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#31 May 15, 2012
snyper wrote:
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And don't forget our dear little Bonobos, for whom erotic play is the favorite sport and conflict solver.
I just looked up all the reproductive methods, I give up quantifying them all, heterosexual binary reproduction is the rarest form of reproduction in the world, so rare that it can be considered an anomaly at this point. LOL How us single offspring mammals made it this far, is beyond me.

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#32 May 15, 2012
40Runner wrote:
<quoted text>.. Humans have two sexes Male & Female anything else is a genetic or mental Anomaly
Dear, gay people ARE either male or female. What genders do you think we come in? And yes, it is perfectly normal and natural for those of us who are gay. If it isn't for YOU, that would be because you are straight.

It's not that hard to understand.

Perhaps you talking about the rather large number of people born with "ambiguous genetalia"? I doubt there are many stats to show the percentage of such people who are gay, but you might want to research it if it interests you.

I don't really see why it would. We are all made as we are, and such things are really only the business of those folks affected.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

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#33 May 15, 2012
Quest wrote:
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Dear, gay people ARE either male or female. What genders do you think we come in? And yes, it is perfectly normal and natural for those of us who are gay. If it isn't for YOU, that would be because you are straight.
It's not that hard to understand.
Perhaps you talking about the rather large number of people born with "ambiguous genetalia"? I doubt there are many stats to show the percentage of such people who are gay, but you might want to research it if it interests you.
I don't really see why it would. We are all made as we are, and such things are really only the business of those folks affected.
Well, if you want to get technical, there are a LOT of straight people who are actually neither gender, and many who are actually the wrong gender genetically. There are males born with inverted genitals, yep, this actually happens, and women born with external ones, they look like the opposite gender, but their genes are literally the wrong one. Then there are the hermaphrodites, which are really rare but no matter what gender they love, they are technically straight. Then the neutral, people born with such messed up gender chromosomes that they just don't have a genetic gender and thus their body just guesses.

Male and female only works with electronic adapters, nothing in nature follows this rule strictly, not even humanity. ;)

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