Climate Change: Public Skeptical, Scientists Sure

Jun 21, 2011 Full story: WNYC-AM New York 7

So far the evidence shows that the more people understand that there is this consensus, the more they tend to believe that climate change is happening, the more they understand that humans are a major contributor, and the more worried they are about it.

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litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#1 Jun 21, 2011
From the article:

The American public is less likely to believe in global warming than it was just five years ago. Yet, paradoxically, scientists are more confident than ever that climate change is real and caused largely by human activities.

Something a bit strange is happening with public opinion and climate change.
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litesong wrote:
Not strange to understand at all......

Oil & energy business, unable to mount proper science to oppose AGW, forces all their resources to to twist the public away from science. In particular, conservative americans who continue their march away from science education, fall for the business & repub boardroom PeeR strategies.
YouHelpFixIt

Scottsdale, AZ

#2 Jun 21, 2011
The alarmist undermined the real science. They made a bunch of crazy climate predictions that failed and people stopped believing in all of them.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#3 Jun 21, 2011
The same article also referred to the National Academy of Science as being even handed on the subject even while many of thier members have publiaclly denounce the subject and petitioned the NAS to change it's stance.

Also no one mentioned when the poll developed it's answers while indicating that the majority of climate scientist agreeded with man made global warming which current polls of climate scientist now state that they disagree with that statement. If the poll was from the past before the errors were widely known about in the IPCC reports and with other sources such as the CR then the opinion of those scientist has now changed with the latest data.

The simple fact is that global warming has run it's course and as history has testified that it is sinking back into the mire from which it rose to slumber for a few decades before rising once again for a new generation of gullible.
Jan

Victoria, Canada

#4 Jun 21, 2011
Why are the words "climate change" and "global warming" being used interchangeably? I have no problem believing in climate change, and I can accept that much of the problem, though not necessarily all of it, is caused by human activities.

But we haven't had a decent summer here in 5 years. It's pretty hard to believe in "global warming" when you're freezing. I suspect that's what's causing a lot of the skepticism. We're cold.
LessHypeMoreFact

Orangeville, Canada

#5 Jun 22, 2011
Jan wrote:
Why are the words "climate change" and "global warming" being used interchangeably?
The denial and fossil fuel funded lobbyists are doing what they can to increase confusion. Obviously it is working.
Jan wrote:
I have no problem believing in climate change, and I can accept that much of the problem, though not necessarily all of it, is caused by human activities.
AGW is real but not 100% of the story and it is causing some but not ALL of the climate variablility. Thing is, it is the ONLY part of it that we CAN change, and there are many costs associated with too much climate change by adding AGW to natural cycles.
Jan wrote:
But we haven't had a decent summer here in 5 years. It's pretty hard to believe in "global warming" when you're freezing. I suspect that's what's causing a lot of the skepticism. We're cold.
Your 'microclimate' may be cooler. AGW is about the GLOBAL AVERAGE. And how the climate reacts to the global average warming is why some places BECOME cooler. Climate change will NOT result in a simple slightly warmer temperature globally. Its real threat is in making MAJOR changes in the local weather with SMALL changes in the global average. For example, by weakening the polar jet streams (less differential temperatures at higher altitudes) or shifting the ITCZ northward, etc.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#6 Jun 23, 2011
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
The denial and fossil fuel funded lobbyists are doing what they can to increase confusion.
But only the warming industry changes the name of its product, GW, AGW, CC, GCD etc.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Obviously it is working.
For which we should all be thankful.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
AGW is real but not 100% of the story and it is causing some but not ALL of the climate variablility.
How much, "climate variablility" is AGW causing, I'm sure Jan would like to know?
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Thing is, it is the ONLY part of it that we CAN change, and there are many costs associated with too much climate change by adding AGW to natural cycles.
Roughly how much can, "we" change?
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Your 'microclimate' may be cooler.
Tell us all 'aboot' Victoria's microclimate, specifically where Jan lives, if you know?
Do you even know the definition of microclimate, Mr Undoubtably Spelt fourty?
"Microclimate - variations of the climate within a given area, usually influenced by hills, hollows, structures or proximity to bodies of water."
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
AGW is about the GLOBAL AVERAGE.
More BS and bafflegab.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
And how the climate reacts to the global average warming is why some places BECOME cooler.
Are CAPS necessary to describe the obvious?
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Climate change will NOT result in a simple slightly warmer temperature globally.
More unnecessary CAPS.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Its real threat is in making MAJOR changes in the local weather with SMALL changes in the global average.
Threat would have looked better in CAPS, but not small.
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
For example, by weakening the polar jet streams (less differential temperatures at higher altitudes) or shifting the ITCZ northward, etc.
I'm sure Jan wasn't aware that ITCZ stands for Intertropical Convergence Zone, but don't let me stop you from attempting to teach climate change to beginners, just try harder to use fact and forget the hype, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#7 Jun 23, 2011
Jan wrote:
Why are the words "climate change" and "global warming" being used interchangeably?
Many reasons, some still cling to GW, while others prefer CC or even GCD,(Global Climate Disruption) which was suggested last year as an alternative by Obama's Science Adviser, John Holdren:
http://www.cnsnews.com/node/75296
So take your pick.
Jan wrote:
I have no problem believing in climate change, and I can accept that much of the problem, though not necessarily all of it, is caused by human activities.
Only a minuscule amount of warming is caused by human activities, I'm sure you were able to work that out from the link I gave you earlier?
Jan wrote:
But we haven't had a decent summer here in 5 years. It's pretty hard to believe in "global warming" when you're freezing. I suspect that's what's causing a lot of the skepticism. We're cold.
Move south?
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