Wash. senators hear from global warmi...

Wash. senators hear from global warming skeptic

There are 16 comments on the HeraldNet story from Mar 26, 2013, titled Wash. senators hear from global warming skeptic. In it, HeraldNet reports that:

A new Republican-dominated majority in the state Senate dedicated a rare block of time Tuesday to hear the views of a global warming skeptic who argued that federal scientists have been manipulating climate data to inflate temperatures.

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litesong

Everett, WA

#1 Mar 26, 2013
From the article:
A new Republican-dominated majority in the state Senate dedicated a rare block of time Tuesday to hear the views of a global warming skeptic who argued that federal scientists have been manipulating climate data to inflate temperatures.

The views of retired geology professor Don Easterbrook are considered outside of mainstream science.
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Yeah, re-pubic-lick-un politicians listen to what they want to hear....... one dissident old scientist. The re-pubic-lick-un consensus is in.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#2 Mar 27, 2013
More useless scientific science fiction from the "pinheadlitesout" If the professor were a Dem. the "pinheadliteout" would agree with the professor. So more and more diarrheas from the “pinheadlitesout".
SpaceBlues

United States

#3 Mar 27, 2013
Western Washington University's geology faculty said in a position statement that they concur with rigorous, peer-reviewed assessments by the National Academies of Science, the National Research Council and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that global climate has warmed significantly and that human activities -- mainly greenhouse-gas emissions -- account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s.

"I think it's unfortunate that someone who really isn't an active expert in their field is being chosen to discuss this important topic," said Bernie Housen, chairman of Western Washington University's geology department.[from the article]

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#4 Mar 27, 2013
"...a global warming skeptic who argued that federal scientists have been manipulating climate data to inflate temperatures."

LOL. Easterbrook has been caught out manipulating climate data to hide temperature rise.

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2010/06/02/do...

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#5 Mar 28, 2013
CONCLUSIONS

Global warming (i.e, the warming since 1977) is over. The minute increase of anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere (0.008%) was not the cause of the warming—it was a continuation of natural cycles that occurred over the past 500 years.

The PDO cool mode has replaced the warm mode in the Pacific Ocean, virtually assuring us of about 30 years of global cooling, perhaps much deeper than the global cooling from about 1945 to 1977. Just how much cooler the global climate will be during this cool cycle is uncertain. Recent solar changes suggest that it could be fairly severe, perhaps more like the 1880 to 1915 cool cycle than the more moderate 1945-1977 cool cycle. A more drastic cooling, similar to that during the Dalton and Maunder minimums, could plunge the Earth into another Little Ice Age, but only time will tell if that is likely.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-cooling-i...
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#6 Mar 28, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Western Washington University's geology faculty said in a position statement that they concur with rigorous, peer-reviewed assessments by the National Academies of Science, the National Research Council and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that global climate has warmed significantly and that human activities -- mainly greenhouse-gas emissions -- account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s.
"I think it's unfortunate that someone who really isn't an active expert in their field is being chosen to discuss this important topic," said Bernie Housen, chairman of Western Washington University's geology department.[from the article]
So more scientific science fiction. Got real science spacedoutblues?

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#7 Mar 28, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
CONCLUSIONS
Global warming (i.e, the warming since 1977) is over. The minute increase of anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere (0.008%) was not the cause of the warming—it was a continuation of natural cycles that occurred over the past 500 years.
The PDO cool mode has replaced the warm mode in the Pacific Ocean, virtually assuring us of about 30 years of global cooling, perhaps much deeper than the global cooling from about 1945 to 1977. Just how much cooler the global climate will be during this cool cycle is uncertain. Recent solar changes suggest that it could be fairly severe, perhaps more like the 1880 to 1915 cool cycle than the more moderate 1945-1977 cool cycle. A more drastic cooling, similar to that during the Dalton and Maunder minimums, could plunge the Earth into another Little Ice Age, but only time will tell if that is likely.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-cooling-i...
Easterbrook's graph is labelled "present global warming", but the ice core data doesn't capture warming from the last century.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articlePictures/...

When you add that in, the picture is different:

http://hot-topic.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/201...

A sad indictment of the modern Republican party that they ignore the voice of the scientific community and listen to this liar.
SpaceBlues

Humble, TX

#9 Mar 31, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
Easterbrook's graph is labelled "present global warming", but the ice core data doesn't capture warming from the last century.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articlePictures/...
When you add that in, the picture is different:
http://hot-topic.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/201...
A sad indictment of the modern Republican party that they ignore the voice of the scientific community and listen to this liar.
Excellent response.

More from WWU faculty find overwhelming scientific evidence to support global warming:

In a specific example, Easterbrook referred to a graph of temperatures from an ice core of the Greenland ice sheet to claim that global temperatures were warmer than present over most of the last 10,000 years. First, this record is of temperature from a single spot on Earth, central Greenland (thus it is not a "global record"). Second, and perhaps more importantly, Easterbrook's definition of "present temperature" in the graph is based on the most recent data point in that record, which is actually 1855, more than 150 years ago when the world was still in the depths of the Little Ice Age, and well before any hint of human-caused climate change.

Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/03/31/29...
SpaceBlues

Humble, TX

#10 Mar 31, 2013
As the active faculty of the Western Washington University Geology Department that he lists as his affiliation, we conclude that Easterbrook's presentation clearly does not represent the best-available science on this subject, and urge the Senate, our state government, and the citizens of Washington State to rely on rigorous peer-reviewed science rather than conspiracy-based ideas to steer their decisions on matters concerning our environment and economic future.

Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/03/31/29...

P.S. Thanks to the WWU faculty for the truth.
PHD

Thornton, TX

#11 Apr 1, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
As the active faculty of the Western Washington University Geology Department that he lists as his affiliation, we conclude that Easterbrook's presentation clearly does not represent the best-available science on this subject, and urge the Senate, our state government, and the citizens of Washington State to rely on rigorous peer-reviewed science rather than conspiracy-based ideas to steer their decisions on matters concerning our environment and economic future.
Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/03/31/29...
P.S. Thanks to the WWU faculty for the truth.
So more scientific science fiction. Got real science spacedoutblues?

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#12 Apr 1, 2013
They don't want politicians to learn how foolish they look when they promise to save the Earth and mitigate climate change.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#13 Apr 1, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
They don't want politicians to learn how foolish they look when they promise to save the Earth and mitigate climate change.
You are already foolish a trillion times to post that.

To save the living, fool, don't you get it? The planet goes on even after the eigth extinction facing the living due to man-made climate change.
PHD

Thornton, TX

#14 Apr 1, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You are already foolish a trillion times to post that.
To save the living, fool, don't you get it? The planet goes on even after the eigth extinction facing the living due to man-made climate change.
Actually you’re the one that don't get it. Show your entire peer reviewed work and save face. To date you have nothing but scientific science fiction cut and paste useless babble.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#15 Apr 1, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
They don't want politicians to learn how foolish they look when they promise to save the Earth and mitigate climate change.
'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' tried math calculations, tho only a few attempts ended in errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES & 73 million TIMES.

'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' has no science or mathematics, so backs a multi-decadal ol' scientist loser, because 'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' can't figure out how its error of 73 million TIMES & all its other errors, could have been wrong.
PHD

Thornton, TX

#16 Apr 1, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' tried math calculations, tho only a few attempts ended in errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES & 73 million TIMES.
'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' has no science or mathematics, so backs a multi-decadal ol' scientist loser, because 'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' can't figure out how its error of 73 million TIMES & all its other errors, could have been wrong.
More and more that’s all the "pinheadlitesout" has more and more diarrheas
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#17 Apr 1, 2013
"fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' flops:
diarrhea.......
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litesong wrote:
Can't be nice, if any AGW advocate wants to tell the truth about 'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend'.
'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' can't ask a proper scientific question because it never had science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc in its poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa. Of course,'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' never had any other science or mathematics training.
At least,'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' tried math calculations, tho only a few attempts ended in errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES & 73 million TIMES.'fetid feces face flip flopper fiend' has never attempted math calculations, which prove that its proficiency in math is worse than that of 'brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver'.

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