UAW's new direction inspires visions ...

UAW's new direction inspires visions of hope and disaster

There are 288 comments on the www.freep.com story from Sep 7, 2009, titled UAW's new direction inspires visions of hope and disaster. In it, www.freep.com reports that:

On this Labor Day, with the world of the worker so changed, one might wonder: What would Walter Reuther think? Just a few months ago, as General Motors and Chrysler careened toward bankruptcy, the union faced the prospect of losing everything.

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Skinny

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#1 Sep 7, 2009
Modern UAW is all about turncoat appeasement and keeping our UAW leaders FAT at our expense.

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Since: May 09

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#2 Sep 7, 2009
Clearly Walter Reuther wouldn't like what he sees if he were alive today. The entire Labor movement has been stuck in neutral, if not reverse for quite some time now. If Reuther were alive today not only would the entire Big-3 be UAW (free of ant 2nd tier workers), he'd also organize out fits such as walmart.

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TV GUY

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#3 Sep 7, 2009
Hey Fred don't knock Walmart, I love to shop there. I saved enough at Walmart over the last two years to buy a new Ford. I talked to many of the employees and they told me they were very happy with their jobs. They had insurance and a job they knew would be there tommorrow. Why do you want to fk up a good thing? We can't help the fact you don't like the competition. If their happy working for less then you, then so be it that's called a free enterprise. If you want more money, show how you can produce more then you take. Until then deal with it.
Bob

United States

#4 Sep 7, 2009
In the old days the companies had money and were selling everything they made at their price.

Now the companies are broke and have lost market share. It's hard for a union to gain leverage against a broke company.

What would you have the UAW do? Force bankruptcy. Get on the wagon and help make this company strong again. Then the money and jobs will come.

Until then don't whine. Just roll up your sleeves and do you part.

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#5 Sep 7, 2009
TV GUY wrote:
Hey Fred don't knock Walmart, I love to shop there. I saved enough at Walmart over the last two years to buy a new Ford. I talked to many of the employees and they told me they were very happy with their jobs. They had insurance and a job they knew would be there tommorrow. Why do you want to fk up a good thing? We can't help the fact you don't like the competition. If their happy working for less then you, then so be it that's called a free enterprise. If you want more money, show how you can produce more then you take. Until then deal with it.
huh? Walmart is the WORLD'S largest importer of FOREIGN GOODS! Have you read about Walmart on the internet? Their clothes line-FADED GLORY is made in Bangladesh by forced child labor!
TV GUY

United States

#6 Sep 7, 2009
Bob wrote:
In the old days the companies had money and were selling everything they made at their price.
Now the companies are broke and have lost market share. It's hard for a union to gain leverage against a broke company.
What would you have the UAW do? Force bankruptcy. Get on the wagon and help make this company strong again. Then the money and jobs will come.
Until then don't whine. Just roll up your sleeves and do you part.
Hey Bob ,let this be a lesson to all companies when the going is great continue to prepare as if tommorrow will be a problem. No one should ever be paid more then they produce even when the company is at it's peak. The management allowed themselves to be pushed around by the UAW. Their lazyness and profits made it easy for the UAW. The UAW hurt themselves by pushing, and management hurt themselves with stupidity. I hope there is a lesson for all in this outcome.
Bob

United States

#7 Sep 7, 2009
TV Guy - No one thought it would be different for a long time. From the 50's through the 90's it was a great run.

Business models have to change, they didn't. The misoneism of both the company leadership and the UAW took it down. I'm hoping the bankruptcy woke EVERYONE up.

No one was flexible. Now we must be.
Huh

Farmington, MI

#8 Sep 7, 2009
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huh? Walmart is the WORLD'S largest importer of FOREIGN GOODS! Have you read about Walmart on the internet? Their clothes line-FADED GLORY is made in Bangladesh by forced child labor!
HUH? Walmart is the world largest retailer...so it would stand to reason that they would be the worlds largest importer. Secondly, most manufacturing has left this country so supplying a company such as Walmart much less the dying Kmart or even the regionalized Meijers chain, absolutely includes importing from overseas.

Lets dispense with the whole walmart is out to get ya routine...wallyworld is an American company plain and simple...lets not fuck that company up too!
Lets stop listening to the propaganda machine, and be realistic for a change!
Emma Kunfner

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#9 Sep 7, 2009
Iamfedup2 wrote:
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huh? Walmart is the WORLD'S largest importer of FOREIGN GOODS! Have you read about Walmart on the internet? Their clothes line-FADED GLORY is made in Bangladesh by forced child labor!
Apparently you have no clue to where the parts are made to assemble a Chrysler product.

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#11 Sep 7, 2009
Emma Kunfner wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently you have no clue to where the parts are made to assemble a Chrysler product.
Unfortunately I do. Sad, isn't it? Your choice if you want to support China.

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Emma Kunfner

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#13 Sep 7, 2009
Iamfedup2 wrote:
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Unfortunately I do. Sad, isn't it? Your choice if you want to support China.
Your supporting China by paying your taxes, how else is the American debt being paid for (loan), its financed by CHINA.

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#14 Sep 7, 2009
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>HUH? Walmart is the world largest retailer...so it would stand to reason that they would be the worlds largest importer. Secondly, most manufacturing has left this country so supplying a company such as Walmart much less the dying Kmart or even the regionalized Meijers chain, absolutely includes importing from overseas.
Lets dispense with the whole walmart is out to get ya routine...wallyworld is an American company plain and simple...lets not fuck that company up too!
Lets stop listening to the propaganda machine, and be realistic for a change!
Too late...it's already fked up. Do some research about Walmart.
Savage Factory

AOL

#15 Sep 8, 2009
Iamfedup2 wrote:
Is the problem Walmart, or is the problem Corporate America, which has sold our blood for a nickol a gallon? True, Walmart is the worst case, buying all the junk from China. But what about Stanley Tool? Are they less of a bad guy because they are not as big as Walmart, yet shut down all U.S. factories and moved to China. People buy the Stanley name, thinking it is a 100+ year old American company, which is true. But they make the tools in China. How about Avon Products, shutting down U.S. cosmetic plants and shipping the work to China. How many women that buy Avon know that, or even care. But they will care when they lose THEIR jobs to China. I won't even get into Ford, which built one of the largest car plants on earth - in Brazil. Thats right. You thought when you bought a Ford you were helping American workers. But all you did was stuff the pockets of the corporate elete that owns you, me, and the good old U.S.A. Or is the problem American Labor, who, for 50 years, has demanded more pay for less work. Or is the problem the U.S. Government, which has allowed foreign companys to sell here with little penalty, but when we try to sell in their country we get hit with big tariffs. Or is the problem all of the above?

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United States

#16 Sep 8, 2009
This was the problem. Worst leader in history.

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Since: Sep 09

United States

#17 Sep 8, 2009
This leader was also bad and you didn't know it. The one we have now is selling you out also.

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#18 Sep 8, 2009
Savage Factory wrote:
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Is the problem Walmart, or is the problem Corporate America, which has sold our blood for a nickol a gallon? True, Walmart is the worst case, buying all the junk from China. But what about Stanley Tool? Are they less of a bad guy because they are not as big as Walmart, yet shut down all U.S. factories and moved to China. People buy the Stanley name, thinking it is a 100+ year old American company, which is true. But they make the tools in China. How about Avon Products, shutting down U.S. cosmetic plants and shipping the work to China. How many women that buy Avon know that, or even care. But they will care when they lose THEIR jobs to China. I won't even get into Ford, which built one of the largest car plants on earth - in Brazil. Thats right. You thought when you bought a Ford you were helping American workers. But all you did was stuff the pockets of the corporate elete that owns you, me, and the good old U.S.A. Or is the problem American Labor, who, for 50 years, has demanded more pay for less work. Or is the problem the U.S. Government, which has allowed foreign companys to sell here with little penalty, but when we try to sell in their country we get hit with big tariffs. Or is the problem all of the above?
All the above. The worst part is when Companies use CHILD LABOR and/or SWEATSHOPS and force people to work for pennies on the hour around the clock.
TV GUY

United States

#19 Sep 8, 2009
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huh? Walmart is the WORLD'S largest importer of FOREIGN GOODS! Have you read about Walmart on the internet? Their clothes line-FADED GLORY is made in Bangladesh by forced child labor!
So, who cares.If you talk to most of this forced labor you'll see their happy to have a job. Their living better not worse and are happy with the simple existence they now have. Why must Americans continue to feel everyone wants a Big house a pool in their backyard and two BMW's with a big riding lawnmower. I know people in foreign countries living a simple life with less stress and more time to enjoy their family. They don't want anything to do with the keep up with the Jones lifestyle of America. Now don't try to distroy their way of life, because when it comes down to it your afraid of the competition.

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#20 Sep 8, 2009
Emma Kunfner wrote:
<quoted text>Your supporting China by paying your taxes, how else is the American debt being paid for (loan), its financed by CHINA.
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