Autism or Asperger's? It Might Depend...

Autism or Asperger's? It Might Depend on Your Doctor

There are 24 comments on the Fox News story from Nov 8, 2011, titled Autism or Asperger's? It Might Depend on Your Doctor. In it, Fox News reports that:

Researchers found that clinics varied in what skills and behaviors they considered when evaluating kids with an autism spectrum disorder and deciding where on that spectrum they fell.

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#1 Nov 8, 2011
And one wonders why the rates are so outta whack.
FBOMBER

Winkler, Canada

#2 Nov 8, 2011
These doctor GODS are incompetent, what else is new.

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#3 Nov 8, 2011
That's right. If they don't know autism from asperger's then maybe it's neither.
FBOMBER

Winnipeg, Canada

#4 Nov 9, 2011
friend wrote:
That's right. If they don't know autism from asperger's then maybe it's neither.
It is neither, its vaccine injury.

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#5 Nov 9, 2011
OK, I will maybe agree with that, but vaccine injury is not autism.
FBOMBER

Winnipeg, Canada

#6 Nov 9, 2011
friend wrote:
OK, I will maybe agree with that, but vaccine injury is not autism.
Maybe there is hope for you...yet.
HumanSpirit

Live Oak, FL

#7 Nov 21, 2011
Check the number of deaths by pharmacutical mind drugs and the violence as a result of usage. It is criminal to the health and well are of the GI. Get the mental health out of the military. They have no science. No medical model. No evidence based medicine and no MRI scam to determine a defective brains (in their opinion) from a normal brain. Take the mental health out of the American way of life. They are creating mental problems for Republican political power and personal and corporate gain. Protect the constitution against the enemies foreign and domestic.

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#8 Nov 21, 2011
Just like the use of a gun, the gun isn't the responsible thing, the person themselves is. Without mental health, we'd be going backwards in medical advancement and back to institutions.
FBOMBER

Winnipeg, Canada

#9 Nov 21, 2011
friend wrote:
OK, I will maybe agree with that, but vaccine injury is not autism.
Vaccines cause the conditions that cause autism. That was good enough for the Vaccine injury compensation plan in the U.S.

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#10 Nov 21, 2011
Actually, no it's not good enough for vaccine court. And the preponderance of the evidence is far less than any other court.
YOGI

Winnipeg, Canada

#11 Nov 21, 2011
friend wrote:
Actually, no it's not good enough for vaccine court. And the preponderance of the evidence is far less than any other court.
Not good enough for a corrupt, Pharma influenced court no. A real court, with an honest judges with no predetermined outcomes would do whats right.

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#12 Nov 21, 2011
Nice try of an anti vaxxer. Location gives it away, plus we all know you're not a female. Yogi was a woman.
1 in 91 USA

Winnipeg, Canada

#13 Nov 21, 2011
friend wrote:
Nice try of an anti vaxxer. Location gives it away, plus we all know you're not a female. Yogi was a woman.
Too bad I'm not a registered loser like you.
MATL-BCBA

San Diego, CA

#15 Nov 28, 2011
I suppose I should point out that medical doctors and pediatrians are rarely if ever trained to diagnose autism spectrum disorders...

Few people even know that the only difference in the DSM between a diagnosis of autism and a diagnosis of Asperger's is that with autism there is a documented language delay at age 3. There is absolutely no other difference-but many people falsely believe that there is more be it IQ or severity of behavior problems.

I have even had a medical doctor tell me he wanted to give someone a diagnosis of pdd-nos because of the severity of the impact-even though pdd-nos means someone did not meet all the criteria for autism or Asperger's during the observation period and as REPORTED by parent recollections rather then direct observational data.(basically the medical doctor had it backwards)

I know that UBH mental health insurance wants me to confirm the diagnosis of all referrals they send me because they know that MDs don't have the training. Or so the state rep said when I became an in-network provider...

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#16 Nov 29, 2011
Most medical doctors and pedestrians give referrals when they suspects autism or developmental delays. neither generally would be the doctor one would expect to give a diagnosis since it is considered a DSM/ Psych disorder.
Interestingly, the revised DSM removes the language delay but also another difference in the current DSM is cognitive delay. Asperger's criteria didn't have that where as autism did.

Being that autism amd asperger's affects each persons abilities differently, it is difficult to define each diagnosis to be specific with specific behaviors and delays.

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#17 Nov 29, 2011
Medical doctors and pediatrians generally will give a referral to a specialist when they suspect autism or developmental delays. Autism is a DSM/ psych disorder/ diagnosis and most Medical doctors and pediatrians have little to no experience to diagnose autism.

Along with the speech delay, the other difference within the diagnosis of autism and asperger's is cognitive delay. Generally those with asperger's do not have cognitive issues. The new revised DSM will remove the speech delay however, making it an interesting diagnosis to make.

I know many people who have children with an asperger's diagnosis, however the child had severe speech delay. Then as the child progresses and gains speech/ language, a re- evaluation that child could and often does get an asperger's diagnosis because now that's where the child falls with in the criteria, totally forgetting that child had a severe speech delay. All of this leave the rates in a mess.

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#18 Nov 29, 2011
Finally, hopefully, they're moderating. I posted twice because the first one disappeared. The 2nd comment of mine did, too. This comment I'm writing might! We'll see.
FBOMBER

Canada

#19 Nov 29, 2011
Pediatricians are a low level doctor, just above veterinarians.
MATL-BCBA

San Diego, CA

#20 Dec 5, 2011
There has been a big push to help educate doctors about autism and proper diagnosis because they are still one of the first line of professionals to see and evaluate our children's wellbeing.

@friend - I agree that many doctors DO refer out for anbautism diagnosis, but they need to know to make he refer and who to refer to.

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#21 Dec 6, 2011
My son was referred by his doctor. She suspected autism but the state where I live is known for good medical care and has a lot of private services for those with autism. I think the problem many doctors have is that they don't want to be the first to tell a parent their child may have autism, due to just the negativity as seen on this forum.

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