Tragedies of the abducted Greek children of 1948: the reality of the FYROM claims

Nov 16, 2009 Full story: www.americanchronicle.com 90

In 1948, Cominform, the first official forum of the international communist movement since the dissolution of the Comintern, put into action a plan to take hostage to communist countries children from Greece during the Greek civil war. The aim was to re-educate the children as well as blackmail the populace and the Greek government towards reaching a settlement leading to a partition of Greece and the subsequent creation of an internationalist "Macedonian" Republic.

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Antony

New Rochelle, NY

#1 Nov 16, 2009
shame to slavs !!!!!
www.history-of-macedonia.com
power of serbs

Canada

#2 Nov 16, 2009
Antony wrote:
shame to slavs !!!!!
www.history-of-macedonia.com
you albanians are the problem also just like they are the same.
Dojran

Ashford, UK

#3 Nov 16, 2009
What a load of sh1t, this wanker should go and ask these children who live all over the world how they feel and if they were "kidnapped" why they are not allowed to visit there birth place?!
Yunanistan will eventually have to pay the piper.

“SymiakoMakethona s”

Since: Aug 08

Australia

#4 Nov 16, 2009
Dojran wrote:
What a load of sh1t, this wanker should go and ask these children who live all over the world how they feel and if they were "kidnapped" why they are not allowed to visit there birth place?!
Yunanistan will eventually have to pay the piper.
The majority of those children where indoctrinated into the communist thinking of the time and have learnt to hate Greece and Greeks.

Why do you think they stole these kids in the first place??
yes ideed

New Rochelle, NY

#5 Nov 16, 2009
Dojran wrote:
What a load of sh1t, this wanker should go and ask these children who live all over the world how they feel and if they were "kidnapped" why they are not allowed to visit there birth place?!
Yunanistan will eventually have to pay the piper.
scoupidi ton valcanion.!!!!!!!!!
TRELARES...AUTOIKANOPOIHTOI... ..POUSTARES TOU KIARATA !!!
Fabian

Toronto, Canada

#6 Nov 16, 2009
Dojran wrote:
What a load of sh1t, this wanker should go and ask these children who live all over the world how they feel and if they were "kidnapped" why they are not allowed to visit there birth place?!
Yunanistan will eventually have to pay the piper.
No it is not a load of sH*t. Be unbiased and look in different directions, you will be surprised what you will discover, other than what the previous illiterate generation is feeding you.

It is the escapees Greece refuses, that live in your country and other Balkan countries, God forbid. Ask them why they escaped. Is it those people that want their properties back? Good Luck to them.
CANADEZOS

Mississauga, Canada

#7 Nov 16, 2009
Dojran wrote:
What a load of sh1t, this wanker should go and ask these children who live all over the world how they feel and if they were "kidnapped" why they are not allowed to visit there birth place?!
Yunanistan will eventually have to pay the piper.
YUGOSLAVIAN LYING CORRUPTED FAKCEN COMMIE!HAVE YOU HEARD OF JANISSARIES? THESE PEOPLE ARE NO DIFFERENT!THAN THE OTTOMAN JANISSARIES WHICH FORMED THE ELITE OF THE OTTOMAN ARMY!THEY WERE KIDNAPPED FROM THEIR GREEK MOTHERS ARMS!AND WERE CONVERTED INTO MUSLIMS!TRAINED TO HATE AND KILL GREEKS!YOUR SLAVIC COMMUNIST MURDERS DID EXACTLY THAT!BY RANDOMLY KIDNAPPING ALL GREEKK CHILDREN THEY COULD GET THEIR HANDS ON!FROM ALL OVER GREECE&NOT JUST ONLY FROM MACEDONIA AS THESE LYING YUGOCOMMIES CLAIM!SLAVIC LIARS YOU SHOULD ALL BE DECAPITATED!FOR ALL THE ATTROCITIES&KILLINGS YOU COMMITED ON INNOCENT GREEK PEOPLE!
Greek Islander

King Of Prussia, PA

#8 Nov 16, 2009
Symiakos wrote:
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The majority of those children where indoctrinated into the communist thinking of the time and have learnt to hate Greece and Greeks.
Why do you think they stole these kids in the first place??
Tito turned the Greek children who were sent to Yugoslavia into jannisaries (yenitsaroi) just as the Turks did to abducted Christian boys durning Ottoman rule. They were taught to hate everything that reminded them of Greece. Tito wanted to use abducted Greek children for his planned expansion into the Aegean and the port of Thessaloniki. Today we see those same poisoned children (now elderly)still trying to implement their father Tito's plans.....but now under the guise of a larger Slavic Macedonian State.
Greek Islander

King Of Prussia, PA

#9 Nov 16, 2009
TIME MAGAZINE

Monday, Jan. 09, 1950

Peace had come to battered, impoverished Greece; the Communist guerrillas had been driven out, perhaps for good. But last week, on Innocents' Day (the Church calendar's anniversary of Herod's Slaughter of the Innocents in Judea), Greece had a day of mourningófor 28,000 children abducted by the bandits and now living on foreign, Communist soil.

A two-gun salute from Mount Lycabettus woke Athenians at dawn. Church bells tolled and flags drooped at half-mast. Newspapers appeared with black-framed front pages. Places of amusement were closed all day, and for half an hour all traffic stopped, streets emptied, doors were closed and blinds drawn.

Queens Do Not Beg. Earnest young Queen Frederika, mother of three, broadcast a poignant message from the royal palace. She begged for the return of the 28,000 children living in exile "as a motheróbecause queens are not supposed to beg." Added Frederika: "The civilized world has remained silent too long."

The civilized world had made some well-meaning but ineffective protests. UNSCOB (the U.N.'s Special Committee on the Balkans) had verified the mass deportation of Greek children. The U.N. General Assembly had called on Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and Rumania for the return of the children. These governments had finally agreed to return any children called for by petition of their parents. Up to last week the Greek Red Cross had forwarded 8,000 petitions, but not one child had been sent back.

Not Even Goodbye. In the palace with Frederika was a group of black-clad peasant women huddled at her side. Kaliroe Gouloumi, from Gorgopotamos, in Epirus, remembered how the Communists took her children: "They were in our village for a year. First they took our animals, then our food, then our children. I had three." Kaliroe wiped her eyes with her black shawl. "They did not even let me say goodbye. They said they were no longer my children but their children."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9...

“SymiakoMakethona s”

Since: Aug 08

Australia

#10 Nov 16, 2009
Greek Islander wrote:
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Tito turned the Greek children who were sent to Yugoslavia into jannisaries (yenitsaroi) just as the Turks did to abducted Christian boys durning Ottoman rule. They were taught to hate everything that reminded them of Greece. Tito wanted to use abducted Greek children for his planned expansion into the Aegean and the port of Thessaloniki. Today we see those same poisoned children (now elderly)still trying to implement their father Tito's plans.....but now under the guise of a larger Slavic Macedonian State.
Absolutely correct, fellow islander. ;)

The commies abducted children b/w the ages of 3 and 14 for the alleged purpose of 1)Terrorise Greek families into supporting the commie guerillas. 2) Educate Greek children in commie ideals. 3) Destroy the Greek race by alienating Greek children. 4) Teach them to hate everything Greek, and one day carry on the commie fight against Greece.

It's amazing how well they have actually planted their seed of hate, and it's still blooming after all these years.

“SymiakoMakethona s”

Since: Aug 08

Australia

#11 Nov 16, 2009
Eleni (1985)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089079/plotsumma...

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/15590/Eleni/o...

Synopsis

As with the book, the film is told in a flashback format with Gage, now living in the United States, returning to his native Greece to solve the mystery of his mother's death when he was child. The film looks back to the effect of the 1940s Greek Civil War on the remote Greek village of his upbringing, and he investigates what happened to his mother after Communist guerrillas invade the village. The main difference between the film and book was that the film focused more on the adult Gage and his investigation, while the book had more focus on Gage's impoverished small-town childhood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleni_%28film%29

“SymiakoMakethona s”

Since: Aug 08

Australia

#12 Nov 16, 2009
THE BLACK BOOK OF COMMUNISM - CRIMES, TERROR, REPRESSION

BY: Stephane Courtiose, Nicolas Werth, Jean-Louis Panne, Andrzej Paczowksi, Karel Barosek, Jean-Louis Margolin

HARVARD UNIV. PRESS

"During the civil war of 1946-1948, Greek Communists kept records on all the children aged three to fourteen in all the areas they controlled. In March 1948 these children were gathered together in the border regions, and several thousand were taken into Albania, Bulgaria, and Yugoslavia. The villagers tried to protect their children by hiding them in the woods. The Red Cross, despite the enormous obstacles placed in their path, managed to count 28,296. In the summer of 1948, when the Tito-Cominform rupture became apparent, 11,600 of the children in Yugoslavia were moved to Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, and Poland, despite many protests from the Greek government. On 17th November 1948, the Third UN General Assembly passed a resolution roundly condemning the removal of the Greek children. In November 1949 the General Assembly again demanded their return. These and all subsequent resolutions remained unanswered. The neighboring Communist regimes claimed that the children were being kept under conditions superior to those they would be experiencing at home, and that the deportation had been a humanitarian act.

In reality the enforced deportation of the children was carried out in appaling conditions. Starvation and epidemics were extremely common, and many of the children simply died. Kept together in "childrens villages", they were subject to courses in politics in addition tho their normal education. At age thirteen they were forced into manual labor, carrying out arduous tasks such as land reclamation in the marshy Hartchag region of Hungary. The ***INTENTION*** of the Communist leaders was to ***FORM A NEW GENERATION OF DEVOTED MILITANTS***, but their efforts ended in failure. One Greek called Constantinides died on the Hungarian side fighting
the Soviet Union in 1956. Others managed to flee into West Germany.

From 1950 to 1952 only 684 children were permitted to return to Greece."

http://books.google.com/books...
Josh

Greece

#13 Nov 16, 2009
Disgusting commie Slavs.
Olympos

Hanover Park, IL

#14 Nov 16, 2009
Dojran wrote:
What a load of sh1t, this wanker should go and ask these children who live all over the world how they feel and if they were "kidnapped" why they are not allowed to visit there birth place?!
Yunanistan will eventually have to pay the piper.
Mr Idiotovski, my wife's cousins and family were abducted. They now live in the USA. And yes, they can go to Greece (they have been many times). It is families of Nazis and or communist criminals that are not allowed to go back. Check the history of your family, Moron!!
Greek History

UK

#15 Nov 16, 2009
Solution is simple

Give them back their property and let them back in Greece

Since: Feb 09

Chemnitz, Germany

#16 Nov 17, 2009
Manoukas reveals the anger expressed by this crime worldwide in chapter VII of the book. A British professor Animbus wrote a letter to the United nations saying:

"Hell itself could not labour a plan more satanic. This heinous crime that defies description, was accompanied by cynical comments transmitted by the Albanian Radio Station, as well as the radio stations of Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, for the "warm" and "loving" welcome, which was extended to the innocent little victims in the capitals of these countries.. They were abducted to be tutored to hate their parents, their religion and their homeland as their common cultural inheritance. There is danger that these unfortunate young souls will be lost forever and if they ever return they may act as offspring of "snakes" against the breast of their motherland. Thousands of Greek children, abducted by the red criminals who added the tragedy of their heinous child abduction to the terrible crime against their homeland, are facing the terror and abomination of Soviet totalitarianism and are under inhuman pressure to change their national consciousness and to become enemies of their homeland."
Dojran

Harlow, UK

#17 Nov 17, 2009
Symiakos wrote:
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The majority of those children where indoctrinated into the communist thinking of the time and have learnt to hate Greece and Greeks.
Why do you think they stole these kids in the first place??
Why then, why did the take them bre Malaka? They are grown up now and most of them live or lived in Democratic country,s like USA do you not think that the USA and your fascist diaspora(who you finance even today)would have made them change there mind in thinking like you and being like you.
These children remember how your fascist soldiers were burning there villages,churches with people in them bre Gaiduri.
Guruni after all these years these children are now adults and are nationals of different countries and you still not let them see there birth place, why is that???? What was these children's crime???!!!For being children maybe?
Open your eyes Guruni and stop living in up your own hell-ass.
Dojran

Harlow, UK

#18 Nov 17, 2009
Fabian wrote:
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No it is not a load of sH*t. Be unbiased and look in different directions, you will be surprised what you will discover, other than what the previous illiterate generation is feeding you.
It is the escapees Greece refuses, that live in your country and other Balkan countries, God forbid. Ask them why they escaped. Is it those people that want their properties back? Good Luck to them.
No wanker you go and ask them, you can find many of them in Toronto.
You know what:) as a none Greek or Macedonian you will be received openly and therefore you will here directly from them of what they endured through there life time and how they ran from the murders Greeks who even burned there christian orthodox churches with woman,children and elderly still in them, and when some ran out were shot regardless of there age and gender.
I apeal to Bogomila to give you a bit of pussy becuase your getting more and more frustrated in something you do not know.
Tengo Conyo?!!!

“Macedonian forever”

Since: Jun 09

Macedonia

#19 Nov 17, 2009
If we consider same situation to day, I will fight for my country Republic of Macedonia and I will send my children somewhere on safe with my relatives.
My Greeky friends this is unbelievable BS:

" 28,000 children abducted by the bandits and now living on foreign, Communist soil"

What are you talking about??? Their parents were Communists and they has abducted own children on foregin soil????
Dojran

Harlow, UK

#20 Nov 17, 2009
Olympos wrote:
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Mr Idiotovski, my wife's cousins and family were abducted. They now live in the USA. And yes, they can go to Greece (they have been many times). It is families of Nazis and or communist criminals that are not allowed to go back. Check the history of your family, Moron!!
Yes and my father is one of them who was led to safety. What was my fathers crime??!!! being a child??!! get the f@ck out of here conyo you haven,t got a clue just what your wife's cousins tell you?!!!
Yunanistan will pay the piper for it,s crime against humanity and the piper has been playing for a while,it is high time they payed the piper,cause he always gets payed.

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