One immigration bill advances, anothe...

One immigration bill advances, another stalls

There are 54 comments on the WBIR-TV Knoxville story from Mar 10, 2014, titled One immigration bill advances, another stalls. In it, WBIR-TV Knoxville reports that:

A bill that would grant in-state tuition to the children of undocumented immigrants has picked up speed in the state legislature A bill that would grant in-state tuition to the children of undocumented immigrants has picked up speed in the state legislature, but a related measure that would offer the same benefit to undocumented students who attend ... (more)

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wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Mar 10, 2014
There should be nothing but deport for alllllllll of them.
alien

Paterson, NJ

#2 Mar 10, 2014
If We deport everyone ?answer they will be deportation for us
alien

Paterson, NJ

#3 Mar 10, 2014
wild child wrote:
There should be nothing but deport for alllllllll of them.
. You have to see a sicitrist
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#4 Mar 10, 2014
alien wrote:
<quoted text>. You have to see a sicitrist
lol take your pill.
ronnie

United States

#5 Mar 10, 2014
It advances a precident that as long as the parents broke the law then it's okay...No the chlidren must also learn to obey American laws as well... Why do we even have to waste energy with these border jumpers... Why can't Mexico take responsibility for their educations.They're not Americans.
Quirky

Denver, CO

#7 Mar 10, 2014
wild child wrote:
<quoted text>lol take your pill.
Hi Wild,

I just wrote my Rep`s today and told them .

I am apposed to Immigration reform or any form of Amnesty. I will vote accordingly this November.

Thank You.

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#9 Mar 11, 2014
Mixtus_Romanus wrote:
<quoted text>

Although originally from Mexico, I'm more "American" than lot's of others.

I'm North AMERICAN, Latin AMERICAN, and I have a rich percentage of Native AMERICAN

ancestry on both sides of my family that I am very proud of.

P.S. I've lived half my life in the U.S.A.
Mexico & The Scalp Industry

Between 1835 and the 1880s, the Mexican authorities paid private armies to
hunt Native Americans, paying per kill and using scalps as receipts. The
practice began when the Mexican government could no longer provide adequate
protection to its citizens from the marauding Apaches and Comanches.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/hns/scalpin...
wild child

Brooklyn, NY

#10 Mar 11, 2014
Quirky wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Wild,
I just wrote my Rep`s today and told them .
I am apposed to Immigration reform or any form of Amnesty. I will vote accordingly this November.
Thank You.
thank you.good work.there will not be amnesty.period.I said so lol.keep up the good work.
spud

Weatherly, PA

#11 Mar 11, 2014
They should be spending their time trying to repeal this stupid 'anchor baby' policy. Every year that these politicians ignore this our illegal alien population is increased by 300,000 anchor babies. This is absurd.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#12 Mar 11, 2014
Mixtus_Romanus wrote:
<quoted text>
Although originally from Mexico, I'm more "American" than lot's of others.
I'm North AMERICAN, Latin AMERICAN, and I have a rich percentage of Native AMERICAN ancestry on both sides of my family that I am very proud of.
P.S. I've lived half my life in the U.S.A.
You're no American than anyone else born here, you pompous, arrogant a**. Still hanging on to a whole continent to try and claim legitimacy in the U.S., you stupid fool!
Memo From Turner

Taiwan

#13 Mar 11, 2014
spud wrote:
They should be spending their time trying to repeal this stupid 'anchor baby' policy. Every year that these politicians ignore this our illegal alien population is increased by 300,000 anchor babies. This is absurd.
You mean the 14th amendment? Isn't that the same Amendment where you, me and most people on these boards claimed our birthright citizenship?
spud

Weatherly, PA

#14 Mar 11, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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You mean the 14th amendment? Isn't that the same Amendment where you, me and most people on these boards claimed our birthright citizenship?
I don't mean the 14th amendment. I mean the bogus interpretation that makes children born here to illegal aliens citizens. The intent of that amendment was to assure citizenship for children of former slaves. We're the only developed country that still has this wacked out policy. This policy encourages lawlessness. Don't play dumb we me dude.
Memo From Turner

Taiwan

#15 Mar 11, 2014
spud wrote:
<quoted text>I don't mean the 14th amendment. I mean the bogus interpretation that makes children born here to illegal aliens citizens. The intent of that amendment was to assure citizenship for children of former slaves. We're the only developed country that still has this wacked out policy. This policy encourages lawlessness. Don't play dumb we me dude.
Let me guess. You learned about this on Topix?

That was only part of the reason for the Amendment. Until then there was no clear definition of who was a citizen. Some people felt the same as me that if your family was not here before the Revolution then you were not an American. Some people disagreed and the 14th resolved that.

The other reason for the Amendment is that a large part of the present western US was part of Mexico. Through war and by purchase the US took control of these areas, but they were not states for a long while. They were territories. Many people did not consider the residents of the territories to be citizens of the United States until the 14th was passed.

That is the reason for the awkward language that refers to "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" that so many people on Topix corrupt to mean something totally different. The text simply clarifies that even if they do not live in a "state" they were still part of the United States.

So it ironic that the 14th Amendment was passed in part to bestow US citizenship to people who were born in Mexico and in most cases had never even set foot in the United "States" and meanwhile some people take exception to citizenship for people who were actually born in the US.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#16 Mar 11, 2014
Present day Mexicans and other foreigners are not subject to the fill jurisdiction of this country if they aren't here legally. So their offspring born on our soil are under the jurisdiction of their parent's countries, not ours. Thus the clause in the 14th "AND" subject to the jurisdiction". If anyone born on our soil was automatically a citizen there would have been no need for the qualifier of "AND".
spud

Weatherly, PA

#17 Mar 11, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me guess. You learned about this on Topix?
That was only part of the reason for the Amendment. Until then there was no clear definition of who was a citizen. Some people felt the same as me that if your family was not here before the Revolution then you were not an American. Some people disagreed and the 14th resolved that.
The other reason for the Amendment is that a large part of the present western US was part of Mexico. Through war and by purchase the US took control of these areas, but they were not states for a long while. They were territories. Many people did not consider the residents of the territories to be citizens of the United States until the 14th was passed.
That is the reason for the awkward language that refers to "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" that so many people on Topix corrupt to mean something totally different. The text simply clarifies that even if they do not live in a "state" they were still part of the United States.
So it ironic that the 14th Amendment was passed in part to bestow US citizenship to people who were born in Mexico and in most cases had never even set foot in the United "States" and meanwhile some people take exception to citizenship for people who were actually born in the US.
That's weak. Have you read any of the dialog that accompanied the passing of the amendment or are you just giving the MSNBC position like everything else you support?
Memo From Turner

Taipei, Taiwan

#18 Mar 12, 2014
spud wrote:
<quoted text>That's weak. Have you read any of the dialog that accompanied the passing of the amendment or are you just giving the MSNBC position like everything else you support?
You could not have possibly done a better job of proving you are full of shit.

You like just about everybody else on these boards purports to be free of bias. There is not a bigoted bone in your body. You love all people. You love immigrants. You love Mexicans. You love Mexican immigrants. As long as they are legal. It is just those illegal ones that you don't like.

And why is that? It is because you are all about law and order. Respect for the law is absolute in your world. It does not matter if it is a minor sub-clause buried among 1400 pages of US Code. The law must always be respected and never questioned. It should never be broken under any circumstance. And most important of all the law should never ever be changed. Ever.

On the other hand you have nothing but contempt for an Amendment to the US CONSTITUTION or as you call it a "stupid policy".

Your respect for the law seems to vary depending on what you think of a particular law. Just another hipocrite.
Memo From Turner

Taipei, Taiwan

#19 Mar 12, 2014
Oldglory wrote:
Present day Mexicans and other foreigners are not subject to the fill jurisdiction of this country if they aren't here legally. So their offspring born on our soil are under the jurisdiction of their parent's countries, not ours. Thus the clause in the 14th "AND" subject to the jurisdiction". If anyone born on our soil was automatically a citizen there would have been no need for the qualifier of "AND".
Which law school did you attend? Maybe you can get a refund.
Oldglory

Coachella, CA

#20 Mar 12, 2014
Ha! The hypocrite calling others hypocrites! We would just like birthright citizenship to be interpreted the way it was initially intended and changed for the future. In the meantime we just have to accept the fact the children born from illegals are considered to be citizens. In the meantime you don't like our immigration laws so you think it ok to break them before or if they get changed. You've got a lot of gall to preach to others to accept and obey our laws as they are written today when you don't yourself!
Memo From Turner

Taipei, Taiwan

#21 Mar 12, 2014
Oldglory wrote:
Ha! The hypocrite calling others hypocrites! We would just like birthright citizenship to be interpreted the way it was initially intended and changed for the future. In the meantime we just have to accept the fact the children born from illegals are considered to be citizens. In the meantime you don't like our immigration laws so you think it ok to break them before or if they get changed. You've got a lot of gall to preach to others to accept and obey our laws as they are written today when you don't yourself!
I am quite clear on my position on citizenship. If your family was not here before the Revolution than you are not an American. I don't care how many generations of anchor babies your family pumped out.
Nanuq

Kennesaw, GA

#24 Mar 13, 2014
spud wrote:
They should be spending their time trying to repeal this stupid 'anchor baby' policy. Every year that these politicians ignore this our illegal alien population is increased by 300,000 anchor babies. This is absurd.
you called American citizens "anchor babies" ... You are just a nazi puke

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