Ron Paul's startling 9/11 claim

Ron Paul's startling 9/11 claim

There are 22 comments on the WGIR-AM Manchester story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Ron Paul's startling 9/11 claim. In it, WGIR-AM Manchester reports that:

Former presidentail candidate says victims from 9/11 attacks would still be alive if his people had been in charge.

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Get Off My Lawn

Englewood, FL

#1 Aug 27, 2012
Oh great. Here comes the loser Ron Paul with more "Blame America" crap!

I'm so glad Paul is basically finished! I'm really tired of hearing his rabid followers worship this crazy old fool!
Ken

Homosassa, FL

#2 Aug 27, 2012
Ron Paul needs to up his meds and should be tucked in a little earlier after his warm milk.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3 Aug 27, 2012
Ron Paul needs to start taking some meds...he might actually see reality then.
Obama Black Nation

Anchorage, AK

#4 Aug 27, 2012
1936 Spanish Civil War a forerunner of all problems and wars of the 20th and 21st century.

Read about "insiders" against the military then.

They were termed the 5th colum.
mike

Tampa, FL

#5 Aug 29, 2012
Ron Paul is an Azz Hole
JDC

El Paso, TX

#6 Aug 29, 2012
Foreign policy
Paul's point is a straightforward one: U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East generated the anger that motivated the 9/11 terrorists. Paul points out that the U.S. policies in the Middle East that made people so angry:(1) the U.S. government's support of Saddam Hussein and the furnishing of biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction to him; (2) the more than 10 years of brutal sanctions against Iraq, which contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children; (3) UN Ambassador Madeleine Albright's infamous statement to Sixty Minutes that the deaths of half a million Iraqi children from the sanctions had been "worth it"; (4) the stationing of U.S. troops on Islamic holy lands; (5) the "no-fly zones," which were never authorized by either the UN or the U.S. Congress and which killed still more Iraqis; (6) and the long-time, unconditional financial and military aid provided the Israeli government.

If the U.S. government's foreign policy of interventionism is, in fact, the root cause of terrorism against the United States, there is an obvious solution to the problem: End the U.S. government's role as international policeman, invader, intervener, interloper, provider, and sanctioner. Foreign terrorism against Americans would disappear along with the need for a "war on terror." Civil liberties that were suspended could be restored. A sense of balance and harmony could return to our lives.
JDC

El Paso, TX

#7 Aug 29, 2012
From Pat Buchanan's new book, looks like he is another conservative that agrees with Ron Paul's foreign policy:

“We borrow from Europe to defend Europe. We borrow from the Gulf states to defend the Gulf states. We borrow from Japan to defend Japan. Is it not a symptom of senility to be borrowing from the world so we can defend the world?”

“Are vital U.S. interests more imperiled by what happens in Iraq where were had 50,000 troops, or Afghanistan where we have 100,000, or Europe where we have 80,000 troops or South Korea 28,000,-- or by what is happening on our border with Mexico?...What does it profit America if we save Anbar and lose Arizona?”
South Korea has a population twice that of North Korea and an economy 40 times as large. What are US soldiers still doing in the demilitarized zone? The frontier that will determine the fate of the US is not the 38th parallel, but the 2,000-mile border with Mexico.
JDC

El Paso, TX

#8 Aug 29, 2012
Being an Internationalist costs us $1 trillion a year. i.e., the estimated combined budgets for the Pentagon, two wars, foreign aid to allies (Saddam and Bin Laden used to be allies), 16 intelligence agencies, scores of thousands of contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, heavily protected embassies,(including a billion dollar embassy in Iraq that is larger than the Vatican), 716 US bases in 38 countries and US troops in 148 countries. Being an internationalist mean you are borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars from the Europeans, Japanese and Gulf states to defend the very same regions. Being an internationalist means you are slowly but surely turning a free and prosperous nation into a “Debtor’s Paradise.” Taking care of matters at home has never looked more attractive, call it isolationism if you will.
JDC

El Paso, TX

#9 Aug 29, 2012
Here was Ron Paul’s message to the Tea Party via The New York Times just the other day:
“As many frustrated Americans who have joined the Tea Party realize, we cannot stand against big government at home while supporting it abroad. We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined.”
JDC

El Paso, TX

#10 Aug 29, 2012
How long can we keep this nonsense up?

1 in 7 Americans are now on government assistance.

Over 48 million now receive food stamps.

Many Americans pay 45-50% of their income in taxes. Over 50% now pay zero income taxes.

We have troops all over the world including from wars won over 65 years ago. We can secure South Korea’s border but not our own.

The federal government is involved in healthcare, retirement programs, income redistribution programs, housing programs, food programs, utility programs, takeovers of formerly public corporations such as GM and will even pay farmers not to grow crops. The Federal government today even tells us what kind of toilets we can use and light bulbs are next.

Social Security is paying out more in benefits than it collects in taxes, 9 years earlier than expected.

The federal government is spending slightly over $32,000 per household.

Annual Budget deficits exceed one trillion dollars and will continue to exceed one trillion.

The current federal debt is over 16 trillion dollars. Unfunded liabilities are 120 trillion dollars. It is estimated that in 2019 we will be paying more for interest on the debt than we do on our "military and defense".

For every $1.00 the government spends, 41 cents is money we don't have thus the debt is passed on to future generations.
the federal government is borrowing close to $4 billion a day--$44,000 every second!

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that our rising national debt "poses a national security threat,".

Deficit spending has been supported by republicans and democrats alike. Neither party has made proposals to address our debt, yet our federal debt may be the single greatest danger to future generations.

How long do you think we can keep this nonsense up?

Shouldn't our generation fund our government and not on the backs of future generations?
JDC

El Paso, TX

#11 Aug 29, 2012
We talk about our freedoms but we don't like to talk about personal responsibility.
Personal freedom without personal responsibility causes someone else's personal freedom to diminish.
This is what happened in America over the past 100 years. The progressives felt the need to improve the lot of one or another segment of society at the cost of another and do it with the taxpayer dollar.
Now we have half the citizens paying taxes for money enjoyed by the other half, politicians spending money they don't have in order to maintain their office, the young paying for the old, the pacifist paying the warrior, non union employees paying for union employees, the law abider paying the criminal, etc.
What happened to America? Well, in my humble opinion the problem is us. We, the voters, forgot that most basic principle of personal freedom and responsibility.
"There ain't no free lunch".
JDC

El Paso, TX

#12 Aug 29, 2012
style Republican.
“The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Europe has a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.”
George Washington’s farewell address

“Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.”
Thomas Jefferson
Eli

Germany

#13 Aug 29, 2012
It is the truth. All these people would be alive and it would be no wars, if he and his people would rule.
9/11 is a complete blame of republicasses just like Bush/Chenney/Wolfowitz and another criminals from this circle. It can be that they are complete responsible for it. Just Chenney has written in his report that it will be no new world order, until unexpected events will happen. It could be internal job.
Ron Paul is the only normal, wise, good and he would be excellent president.
It is pity that morons don´t undestand it.
JDC

El Paso, TX

#14 Aug 29, 2012
Eli wrote:
It is the truth. 9/11 is a complete blame of republicasses just like Bush/Chenney/Wolfowitz and another criminals from this circle.
Funny how some wnat to blame 9/11 on republicans, some on the democrats. I blame the terrorists.
AbleDanger

Kenosha, WI

#15 Oct 13, 2012
Obama Black Nation wrote:
1936 Spanish Civil War a forerunner of all problems and wars of the 20th and 21st century.
Read about "insiders" against the military then.
They were termed the 5th colum.
TOO BAD 9/11 was an inside job to serve as a "false-flag" operation and get the American people(suckers) behind going to war and make big businessmen even richer. Plus there's the whole UN/NWO/1984 scenario coming down the pike thanks to the Freemasons. Big Brother is watching.
Obama was born in Kenya and his mother was a pornstar.
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#16 Oct 13, 2012
JDC wrote:
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Funny how some wnat to blame 9/11 on republicans, some on the democrats. I blame the terrorists.
Yet, you misrepresent not only what America has done, but what Ron Paul has said. Example: He knows very well the US never supplied Saddam with WMD. That falsehood alone makes no one with any sense pay any attention to you.
AbleDanger

Kenosha, WI

#17 Oct 13, 2012
3OHA wrote:
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Yet, you misrepresent not only what America has done, but what Ron Paul has said. Example: He knows very well the US never supplied Saddam with WMD. That falsehood alone makes no one with any sense pay any attention to you.
THEN WHO sold Saddam the outdated SCUD missiles? Just like we sold Japan our "outdated" bombs as scrapmetal and they dropped them on Pearl Harbor. When are you people going to open your eyes and wake up to the fact we pay people to be our enemies and make war?
AbleDanger

Kenosha, WI

#18 Oct 13, 2012
JDC wrote:
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Funny how some wnat to blame 9/11 on republicans, some on the democrats. I blame the terrorists.
I blame the Freemasons who control both major parties and the mainstream-media to usher in their New World Order. Things are happening fast with Kenyan-born, illegal-alien, bisexual, Moslem, ex-CIA, thug, antichrist Obama in the Whitehouse. So be ready by accepting Jesus into your heart before it is too late!
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#19 Oct 13, 2012
AbleDanger wrote:
<quoted text>THEN WHO sold Saddam the outdated SCUD missiles? Just like we sold Japan our "outdated" bombs as scrapmetal and they dropped them on Pearl Harbor. When are you people going to open your eyes and wake up to the fact we pay people to be our enemies and make war?
I recommend you read some scholarship on the issues. You weren't born intelligent and don't gain realistic knowledge by collating a few false snippits on the web.

Russia supplied the SCUDs to Iraq. Japan did buy metal from the US, but increasingly after 1931, when they invaded Korea and Manchuria and walked out of the League of Nations (telling the world exactly what it planned to do about sitting in the White House), there were increasing sanctions by the US against Japan's expansionist efforts. Those pandering these ridiculous stories about Japan's attack on Pearl being part of some US conspiracy are lunatics simply disregarding all the other territories Japan invaded on the same day.

Conspiracy thinking (and changing the subject) comes from arrogance unwilling to admit its ignorance. It always resorts to suicidally attacking its own best interests.
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#20 Oct 13, 2012
AbleDanger wrote:
<quoted text>I blame the Freemasons who control both major parties and the mainstream-media to usher in their New World Order. Things are happening fast with Kenyan-born, illegal-alien, bisexual, Moslem, ex-CIA, thug, antichrist Obama in the Whitehouse. So be ready by accepting Jesus into your heart before it is too late!
The flawed state of man embracing anarchy for ease and conspiracy thinking to avoid true scholarship is the problem of every person attaining a short plateau of learning and believing that is the pinnacle of understanding. Man is flawed and finds many rationalizations for not honestly admitting it... and yes, as an answer, finding Christ as the only saving grace capable of calming, evening and controlling his errant soul.

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