Undocumented students in Reno worry about school, dating - and ...

Sally is a 16-year-old Reno-area high school sophomore with a 3.5 grade point average, a MySpace page, a boyfriend, a dream of going to college, and a secret that only her closest friends know. Full Story
mcm

Brooklyn, NY

#1 Sep 20, 2008
Re-Start Operation: WB !!!!!!!

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#2 Sep 20, 2008
I am sick of the sob stories they are using.

Do you hear any illegals from any other group being so vocal? No!

Illegal is illegal... Obviously other groups know this and are keeping a low profile.

I swear this is like the kids on a stupid crminals show who went into a police station thinking it was a bank and tried to rob it. Or why don't criminals just call the police and tell them when and where they will commit a crime? These kids have to get a K-12 education by law but they should not flaunt that they are illegal as well. That is such a slap in the face to us and those who are following the law.

What about the schools struggling to make ends meet? What about the US born legal kids who haul themselve up from poverty to be great students? Why are they not getting the same coverage as people here illegally?

ICE should be using this information to round up illegals and ship them out. The papers are giving them enough info that even a ten year old can track them down!
GLH

United States

#3 Sep 20, 2008
Other than all the expenses the student has cost the taxpayers and even if she graduates college, just where will she be legally employed without a SS number? The underground, a cleaning service? These articles just bring to light the seriousness of our school systems right to know who they're providing an education to and their legality. Or are we providing educations to illegals who'll then take their degree back to their country of origin at our expense?

“Praise the Lord& Pass the ammo”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#4 Sep 20, 2008
For each of these sob stories from "good" ILLEGAL COCKROACH students, how many stories are there from the other end of the spectrum? I'd guess there are many who drop out of school to work. Without a minimum education, they will be a life long burden to the government. They will be low wage earners who pay little or no taxes. They will consume more in government benefits than they pay in taxes.

Then there are the really bad COCKROACHES who drop out of school, join a gang, and start a life of crime. The ones who steal, rape, and murder.

Send them all back home and make sure they know it's their PARENT'S fault for this situation. Once back home they can apply to come here the right way... the LEGAL way... if they meet our requirements and we need them here, then they can come.
Chuck

United States

#5 Sep 20, 2008
Paul the American wrote:
For each of these sob stories from "good" ILLEGAL COCKROACH students, how many stories are there from the other end of the spectrum? I'd guess there are many who drop out of school to work. Without a minimum education, they will be a life long burden to the government. They will be low wage earners who pay little or no taxes. They will consume more in government benefits than they pay in taxes.
Then there are the really bad COCKROACHES who drop out of school, join a gang, and start a life of crime. The ones who steal, rape, and murder.
Send them all back home and make sure they know it's their PARENT'S fault for this situation. Once back home they can apply to come here the right way... the LEGAL way... if they meet our requirements and we need them here, then they can come.
We've got one here who had no problem allowing the newspaper to cry for her too. She can't work, no SS number, but mom and dad said they can get her a job in a cleaning company. An anonymous donar stepped forward to pay her college tuition. Just really pisses me off! This one vividly remembers her trip with her mother across the border illegally.
Captain

United States

#6 Sep 20, 2008
Our schools are overrun with these illegal alien babies, seems to be every school everywhere!! Go home Cockaroach!!! Once they have a pattern of illegal behavior they will continue said behavior, they call all their cousins south of the border and tell them to come on up, stupid Americans will pay for your college.
PSL

Boca Raton, FL

#7 Sep 20, 2008
Bust them and deport them. Now!!!!!!!!!!
Jerry

United States

#8 Sep 20, 2008
If my parents had either snuck me into the country or I was born an anchor baby, I'd be mad at hell at them! Now that I'm paying attention to this illegal alien mess, I'm wondering if some in my school were reaping the benefits of my parents taxes. This total B.S. is wrong!

“Live for today”

Since: Jan 08

here

#9 Sep 20, 2008
It's time for ICE to start doing some raids where it will count. At the elementary and high schools. Give the parents some thing more to worry about and just maybe they will leave on their own.

Since: Apr 07

Columbus, OH

#10 Sep 20, 2008
Richard retired US Army wrote:
It's time for ICE to start doing some raids where it will count. At the elementary and high schools. Give the parents some thing more to worry about and just maybe they will leave on their own.
It is an unwritten rule that ICE will not go into schools,churches and parks.

Hilarious,huh? Of course,I never thought I'd hear about ANY crackdowns in California either,so let's wait and see.

Go ICE!!!
Report and deport.

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#11 Sep 20, 2008
Jerry wrote:
If my parents had either snuck me into the country or I was born an anchor baby, I'd be mad at hell at them! Now that I'm paying attention to this illegal alien mess, I'm wondering if some in my school were reaping the benefits of my parents taxes. This total B.S. is wrong!
You will probably find out that a lot are. Though we cannot ask for immigration status when students enroll in public K-12 schools, when crackdowns are made, look how many students are pulled from the schools. It can give an idea of how many are here illegally or are anchor babies.

We have approx 12,000 ESOL students in my county. After our illegal immigrant crackdown, enrollment in the ESOL program dropped by at least 600 students.(WTOP news)

Now, in the last four years, our school system has grown by about 9000 students, about 7000 are ESOL.
(PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE FEBRUARY 25, 2008 MEETING HIGHLIGHTS)

After our crackdown started, Fairfax county saw 623 ESOL students transfer from Pr Wm Co to Fairfax. Of course, FFX, which is sanctuary so far is not attributing any rise to our crackdowns - though they have seen a rise in illegals and have the highest illegal population statewide in their jails I think percapita.

Even though schools cannot ask for immigration status of students, just by looking at trends and what is happening, you can start to see the effects.

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#12 Sep 20, 2008
Richard retired US Army wrote:
It's time for ICE to start doing some raids where it will count. At the elementary and high schools. Give the parents some thing more to worry about and just maybe they will leave on their own.
I understand where you are coming from, but as a parent with school age kids at the elementary level, it would be terrifying for ICE to raid schools. We would have severely traumatized citizens as well who are not at the age they can comprehend what is happening. I agree something needs to be done but the raids as in how companies are raided would do a lot of severe harm to children legally here.

What needs to be done is during the school registration process for transferring students have an ICE official there (think the kindergarten registration days).

But if you have every worked with elementary age kids and younger, having people enter a classroom and haul out kids would be excessively traumatizing. I work with this age group and even routine things sich as fire drills or a tornado drill when a funnel cloud went over my area can cause a lot of trauma. I can just see what would happen if ICE stepped in and pulled kids from a class.

If ICE was ever to go into schools it would have to be done carefully and with respect for the stress it would put on the children legally in the country. Little kids do not and cannot comprehend at our level not can they process what is happening without internalizing it.

Little kids have to learn right from wrong but the lesson and the actions of us adults have to be done at a level that they can understand and manage.

What I would like to see is kids called down to the office, be escorted out by the parents to an awaiting vehicle with ICE or law enforcement officials.

If we traumatize students legally here, we could actually create a whole generation of kids more sympathetic to illegals because of the scare given to them during a raid. Is this what we want?

No.

I agree something needs to be done in schools but the younger the child dealt with, the more careful you have to be for those in the classes. As a parent, I fear the day I would have to calm my son or daughter down and explain why a bunch of his friends were pulled from class screaming and crying. My son is of an age where he can understand that we have laws that have to be followed but cannot externalize things quite yet. My daughter is too young to understand the concept of immigration.

I just have visions of uniformed men and screaming children terrified to go to school though the kids are legal and have nothing to fear. Little kids do not comprehend this.

But if say at the end of school, before the buses are boarded, children are called down to the office and picked up by parents and plain clothes law enforcement or something to lessen the trauma on the rest of the school so it can be explained in an age-appropriate manner why certain kids will not be back, then I am in agreement.

Remember, this is the parent in me speaking...

The adult in me says we have to do something but the parent says we need balance for those who are too young to really understand what is going on to their friends. So we have to have compassion for our own children and what they can handle.

Disagree if you want...

But I also feel churches, recreation centers, etc should be fair game for ICE. Just care when dealing with schools.

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#13 Sep 20, 2008
have a few wonderful typos - worse than normal for me.

Time to hit the sheets I think and pass out!

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