Forum to address illegal immigrants, citizenship

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Illegal immigration as a path to U.S. citizenship is the topic of the next E.N. Thompson Forum lecture at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. The lecture is scheduled to begin at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the Lied Center for Performing Arts. Full Story
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Littleton, CO

#1 Mar 21, 2009
Well now isn't this special? Not but have all the forums you want, we the people will never let AMNESTY happen!

We have a citizenship program, it begins before you steal into my country!

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TheUniverseBendsTowardsJustice

#2 Mar 21, 2009
There is a group here that want tickets but were asked what their opinion was and were dinied tickets to attend .... hmmm wonder what that opinion was?

So if you want tickets best to say you have a neutral opinion or theirs......
Nebraska

Littleton, CO

#3 Mar 21, 2009
Reminds me of a meeting in Lincoln on the subject. It was only open to pro-amnesty groups, immigration attorneys and those supporting allowing the illegals to stay in the state....

Hum I wonder if a video will come out, like the Pelosi's meeting in SF with Gutierrez? Now that would be funny!

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#4 Mar 21, 2009
Captain Jack wrote:
There is a group here that want tickets but were asked what their opinion was and were dinied tickets to attend .... hmmm wonder what that opinion was?
So if you want tickets best to say you have a neutral opinion or theirs......
OMG isn't that discrimination?

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#5 Mar 21, 2009
Why Illegal Immigration Should be Opposed— Even by Free-Marketeers

Analysts with a free-market orientation (including the author) are bound to be ambivalent about illegal immigration. We generally believe that the market will allocate resources (e.g., capital and labor) optimally, to produce the greatest prosperity possible. Therefore, we believe that government should constrain the free flow of those resources as little as possible, including across borders. But in practical terms, there are limits as to the speed with which societies can adjust to abrupt changes in resource flows. This was demonstrated by the severe economic disruptions caused when foreign capital rushed out of Asia in the 1997–98 currency devaluations. And it is being demonstrated by Europe’s and America’s growing backlash against high levels of immigration today.

Regardless of one’s philosophical attitude about immigration, each nation’s policy is enshrined in law. Whatever the need and motivation of illegal immigrants, they violate that law, and thereby undermine support for policies that are anything other than extremely restrictionist. Many residents, including Latinos, who may support liberal legal immigration, still are strongly opposed to illegal immigration.

In addition, for those concerned about population growth in California, as noted elsewhere in this volume, virtually all growth is the result of immigration—either directly, or indirectly through the higher birth rates of many immigrants (versus natives). Without immigration, California—and the U.S. generally—would in the future experience flat or declining populations, because as we have become richer native birth rates have fallen to or below replacement rates.[9] In some respects many claim this growth is positive in that it avoids the consequences of an aging population (increasing retirement liabilities, and growing dependency ratios). But also at issue is the speed of the growth, and—especially—the mismatch between the new residents’ low education and the needs of the twenty-first century economy.

Impacts on Taxpayers

Beyond illegal immigrants’ impacts on the economy and broader society, they have a very direct and deleterious effect on government finances. Federal court decisions have established that state and local governments are obligated to provide most of the same services to illegal immigrants as legal residents. Immigrants utilize poverty-oriented programs in much higher proportions than do natives, because (as noted) immigrants are substantially less educated on average, and therefore poorer. This is even more true for illegal immigrants.10] By contrast, immigrants pay proportionately less in taxes, because most states (and the federal government) have a progressive tax structure (i.e., taxpayers pay an increasing rate as their incomes rise).
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As a result, illegal immigrants draw resources away from needed programs for legal residents, and suppress economic growth because of the need to inflate taxes to cover the costs of their mandated services.
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#6 Mar 21, 2009
In the author’s opinion, reform will require sanctions to assure that illegal aliens are not rewarded in the citizenship process over those who “followed the rules;” and second, any guest worker program will need incentives like the withholding earnings to induce the workers to return to their home countries.

A third element needed is serious enforcement of existing employer sanction laws. At present a minuscule number of employers who have hired illegal immigrants have been prosecuted or fined. Part of the reason is that necessary documents can be easily obtained fraudulently. This allows employers to feign ignorance. The lure of U.S. jobs—for which illegal immigrants are legally ineligible, but only theoretically—must be curtailed. It will not eliminate incentives to emigrate, but it will greatly reduce them.

The final “reform” possibility is radical, but the magnitude of the problem mandates that it be explored. A number of industries, especially construction, hospitality, and agriculture, depend on below-market labor costs. This is the basis for the argument that “illegal immigrants take jobs Americans don’t want”—because the wages are so low. Reducing illegal immigration would increase those costs, and therefore prices. Perhaps these industries should be encouraged to raise wages for new employees. This would attract more legal applicants, whose English skills and legal status would make them attractive hires. In this way, the market would reduce the opportunities for illegal immigrants, and discourage immigration.
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I urge you to read the entire article by Philip S. Romero, Dean Emeritus of the University of Oregon’s Lundquist College of Business, arguably considered one of the top two in the world. While it shouldn't matter, to some it will. Romero is an Hispanic American married to an Hispanic American and a proponent of more liberal immigration - BUT LEGAL immigration with the needs of America being first and foremost in consideration of who is admitted.

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publ...

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#7 Mar 21, 2009
Chrgrfan wrote:
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OMG isn't that discrimination?
This Tyranny!

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