The Fear of Atheism

May 25, 2012 Full story: Psychology Today 29

Why are Americans afraid of atheists? The belief that god does not exist is not hard to come by these days, and appears to be growing throughout the world.

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Since: Oct 11

Cincinnati, OH

#21 Jun 3, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
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Your definition of atheist is wrong. The rest of your post is not even close to factual. If someone should be feared, it is lying theists like you.
There are just as many different type of people.
Just because I'm atheist doesn't mean I don't respect your right to believe in God.
It doesn't mean that I think you are a bad person for believing.
I do not protest churches, mosques or synagogues, or Scientology orgs for that matter.

I just can't stand the fact that most religious people can't respect my right to not believe.
Just because some don't believe doesn't mean that they are bad people either.

What makes it bad is when people force their beliefs on others. I have every much the right to believe that God doesn't exist as much as you have to believe that God does. It's the religious that usually attack, Atheist.
Questioning and having a philosophical debate isn't attacking but forcing others to live according to your beliefs is.

Since: Oct 11

Cincinnati, OH

#22 Jun 3, 2012
Furthermore, I have studied the christian religion and human societies for awhile. I was raised Southern Baptist and a believer. The most morale, upstanding, helpful "Christ-like" people have have meet in my life where Atheist. It's because they wanted to live that way, not because they feel that they had to outta fear.

Think about this: Say that you are 100% correct and their is a God. 2 people die and go to judgment. The first person helped feed and clothed the homeless and children, lived a peaceful and fruitful life, but didn't believe in God. The second person, did nothing but chase money, killed in the name of God and Politics, turned away the hungry and was totally self-serving, but praised God.

Which gets into heaven? The second person that did all that but believed or the first person who lived life as God wanted but didn't believe?

As said earlier in this thread, "The only unforgivable sin is not believing in God". If God condemns good people and forgives the bad simply on praise, then I ask; Is that any type of God worthy of praise?

Franklin

El Paso, TX

#23 Jun 3, 2012
I feel like I am in a chimp cage with a bunch of howling chimps in this thread. Totally dominated by atheists, ignorant of history, and proving my point about incivility. I have no more chance of communicating with them than I would with chimps. Some of these posts are actually funny, like -Skeptic- first agreeing with my statement that atheists don't respect the gods and then saying that I am deliberately trying to misrepresent atheism. And Confession, I can't even tell who you are addressing. I agree that modern religion is a disaster, it having been so badly infected by modern liberal culture as to make it worthless. Only really conservative religions have value. And I don't care what you or anyone else believes. Belief is personal. But publicly attacking religion, which is the basis of morality, is unacceptable.

My post to this thread was my first post in this forum. I post in various places in an attempt to find intelligent life on the internet. Clearly I failed here.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#24 Jun 3, 2012
Franklin wrote:
I feel like I am in a chimp cage with a bunch of howling chimps in this thread. Totally dominated by atheists, ignorant of history, and proving my point about incivility. I have no more chance of communicating with them than I would with chimps. Some of these posts are actually funny, like -Skeptic- first agreeing with my statement that atheists don't respect the gods and then saying that I am deliberately trying to misrepresent atheism. And Confession, I can't even tell who you are addressing. I agree that modern religion is a disaster, it having been so badly infected by modern liberal culture as to make it worthless. Only really conservative religions have value. And I don't care what you or anyone else believes. Belief is personal. But publicly attacking religion, which is the basis of morality, is unacceptable.
My post to this thread was my first post in this forum. I post in various places in an attempt to find intelligent life on the internet. Clearly I failed here.
Really? You claim it is the basis of morality. Okay, then you should be able to clearly tell us all at least one (1) moral precept that can be shown to have originated from your religion. Just one.

Or accept that you are lying and probably don't even realize it.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#25 Jun 3, 2012
Franklin wrote:
I feel like I am in a chimp cage with a bunch of howling chimps in this thread. Totally dominated by atheists, ignorant of history, and proving my point about incivility. I have no more chance of communicating with them than I would with chimps. Some of these posts are actually funny, like -Skeptic- first agreeing with my statement that atheists don't respect the gods and then saying that I am deliberately trying to misrepresent atheism. And Confession, I can't even tell who you are addressing. I agree that modern religion is a disaster, it having been so badly infected by modern liberal culture as to make it worthless. Only really conservative religions have value. And I don't care what you or anyone else believes. Belief is personal. But publicly attacking religion, which is the basis of morality, is unacceptable.
My post to this thread was my first post in this forum. I post in various places in an attempt to find intelligent life on the internet. Clearly I failed here.
Now, to you comment that belief should be personal. I could not agree with you more!

I don't care what you do in the privacy of your home or in your place of worship. Not one bit. Nail a chicken leg on you bedpost and dance around it naked for all I care.

But when you insist that I pledge allegiance to your deity, you've pushed your religion into my space. When I was born it was "one nation, indivisible". I would never ask you to make it "one nation, under no gods", that would be forcing my beliefs onto you. So, back off of forcing your beliefs onto me and you'll never hear from me again.

While you're at it, let's go back to "e pluribus unum" and remember that we become one out of many. It was okay when I was born, but you religulous had to mess with it. I don't trust in any gods and resent you plastering it everywhere.(Note though that I'm not asking you to make it "we trust in no gods", just take you religion back into your personal space.)

And stop with all the Blue Laws and destroying our education system with your mythology.

When you go back to making your beliefs personal, I'll respect your beliefs just as much as I respect a persons opinion that his wife is beautiful and his children are smart.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#26 Jun 3, 2012
Confession wrote:
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There are just as many different type of people.
Just because I'm atheist doesn't mean I don't respect your right to believe in God.
It doesn't mean that I think you are a bad person for believing.
I do not protest churches, mosques or synagogues, or Scientology orgs for that matter.
I just can't stand the fact that most religious people can't respect my right to not believe.
Just because some don't believe doesn't mean that they are bad people either.
What makes it bad is when people force their beliefs on others. I have every much the right to believe that God doesn't exist as much as you have to believe that God does. It's the religious that usually attack, Atheist.
Questioning and having a philosophical debate isn't attacking but forcing others to live according to your beliefs is.
Ummm, hey slick, I am an atheist.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#27 Jun 3, 2012
Franklin wrote:
I feel like I am in a chimp cage with a bunch of howling chimps in this thread. Totally dominated by atheists, ignorant of history, and proving my point about incivility. I have no more chance of communicating with them than I would with chimps. Some of these posts are actually funny, like -Skeptic- first agreeing with my statement that atheists don't respect the gods and then saying that I am deliberately trying to misrepresent atheism. And Confession, I can't even tell who you are addressing. I agree that modern religion is a disaster, it having been so badly infected by modern liberal culture as to make it worthless. Only really conservative religions have value. And I don't care what you or anyone else believes. Belief is personal. But publicly attacking religion, which is the basis of morality, is unacceptable.
My post to this thread was my first post in this forum. I post in various places in an attempt to find intelligent life on the internet. Clearly I failed here.
Well, when you zealots log off, the intellectual level rises a lot.
redneck

Cave Junction, OR

#28 Jun 3, 2012
Franklin wrote:
I feel like I am in a chimp cage with a bunch of howling chimps in this thread. Totally dominated by atheists, ignorant of history, and proving my point about incivility. I have no more chance of communicating with them than I would with chimps. Some of these posts are actually funny, like -Skeptic- first agreeing with my statement that atheists don't respect the gods and then saying that I am deliberately trying to misrepresent atheism. And Confession, I can't even tell who you are addressing. I agree that modern religion is a disaster, it having been so badly infected by modern liberal culture as to make it worthless. Only really conservative religions have value. And I don't care what you or anyone else believes. Belief is personal. But publicly attacking religion, which is the basis of morality, is unacceptable.
My post to this thread was my first post in this forum. I post in various places in an attempt to find intelligent life on the internet. Clearly I failed here.
It appears that we are all very different people. Believers are very much alike.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#29 Jun 4, 2012
Franklin wrote:
I feel like I am in a chimp cage with a bunch of howling chimps in this thread. Totally dominated by atheists, ignorant of history, and proving my point about incivility....
Here, it's you who are calling people ignorant and chimps. Point proved?
This thread is on Topix's Atheist Forum - hence a lot of atheists.
Sorry if you found incivility, but that seems a problem on Topix in general rather than atheists specifically.

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