50 years later, students retrace 1961 Freedom Ride

May 7, 2011 Full story: The Boston Globe 27

Charles Reed Jr. is skipping his college graduation ceremony to do something much more significant to him: retracing the original 1961 Freedom Ride and paying tribute to those who helped win the civil rights that his generation enjoys.

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Gary

Bellingham, WA

#22 May 8, 2011
carey529 wrote:
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yeah..starting with, people taking responsibility for themselves and their actions.
let's level the playing field for once and all...
NOBODY gets a free ride!
Nobody gets a free ride? George W. Bush has the whole of his life.
Everything he has was given to him by his daddy or his daddy's friends or by the sucker taxpayers of Arlington who built the stadium the Texas Rangers play in.
Bin Had

Monongahela, PA

#23 May 8, 2011
Gary wrote:
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Nobody gets a free ride? George W. Bush has the whole of his life.
Everything he has was given to him by his daddy or his daddy's friends or by the sucker taxpayers of Arlington who built the stadium the Texas Rangers play in.
welfare check late again Gary?
Sheik yer Buti

Colorado Springs, CO

#24 May 8, 2011
pamiety wrote:
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I don't like to go for who had it worse then who but really?
No race of people in America was bred into slavery and then a certain standard of civil rights being denied to them other then blacks.
What you forget, or never knew thanks to government schools, is that slaves and enslavers alike have been of every race, religion and nationality.

The treatment of white galley slaves was even worse than the treatment of black slaves picking cotton in USA. But you aren’t interested in facts or history.

Too bad there are no movies or television dramas glamorizing white slaves. Where is the white guy brave enough to produce the white version of Roots?

Why aren’t race pimps busy educating folks that the enslavement of PEOPLE is evil versus their very self-serving, profitable message that enslavement of blacks is where it’s at? Could MONEY have anything to do with propaganda they spew? LOL!

What really disgusts most Americans is the fact that while useful idiots despise the Elmer Gantry shysters of the world, they willingly embrace the nonsensical propaganda spewed by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. ROFLOL!

The inhumanity of human beings toward each other is nothing new and thousands of years of history will educate the wise.

What is new is the fact that race baiters manage to live in opulence after making millions of dollars via the useful idiots they scam.

"In the early years of the colony, many Africans and poor whites -- most of the laborers came from the English working class -- stood on the same ground. Black and white women worked side-by-side in the fields. Black and white men who broke their servant contract were equally punished."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part1/1narr3.html

Since: Sep 07

Maumee, OH

#25 May 8, 2011
Sheik yer Buti wrote:
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What you forget, or never knew thanks to government schools, is that slaves and enslavers alike have been of every race, religion and nationality.
The treatment of white galley slaves was even worse than the treatment of black slaves picking cotton in USA. But you aren’t interested in facts or history.
Too bad there are no movies or television dramas glamorizing white slaves. Where is the white guy brave enough to produce the white version of Roots?
Why aren’t race pimps busy educating folks that the enslavement of PEOPLE is evil versus their very self-serving, profitable message that enslavement of blacks is where it’s at? Could MONEY have anything to do with propaganda they spew? LOL!
What really disgusts most Americans is the fact that while useful idiots despise the Elmer Gantry shysters of the world, they willingly embrace the nonsensical propaganda spewed by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. ROFLOL!
The inhumanity of human beings toward each other is nothing new and thousands of years of history will educate the wise.
What is new is the fact that race baiters manage to live in opulence after making millions of dollars via the useful idiots they scam.
"In the early years of the colony, many Africans and poor whites -- most of the laborers came from the English working class -- stood on the same ground. Black and white women worked side-by-side in the fields. Black and white men who broke their servant contract were equally punished."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part1/1narr3.html
There is a difference between indentured servitude and slavery. Since you are so educated you would know this.

Also, the indentured servants, especially once freed, began to pose a threat to the property-owning elite. The colonial establishment had placed restrictions on available lands, creating unrest among newly freed indentured servants. In 1676, working class men burned down Jamestown, making indentured servitude look even less attractive to Virginia leaders. Also, servants moved on, forcing a need for costly replacements; slaves, especially ones you could identify by skin color, could not move on and become free competitors.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part1/1narr3.html

This was taken from the link you provided.

Never has the white man been bred into captivity in the United States. I assume you have images of white slave ships unlike what has been proved with the African slaves.

http://hitchcock.itc.virginia.edu/SlaveTrade/...

http://hitchcock.itc.virginia.edu/Slavery/ret... (Middle%20Passage)

So you can state half truths to make yourself feel better but you and I know the truth.
Sheik yer Buti

Colorado Springs, CO

#26 May 9, 2011
pamiety wrote:
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There is a difference between indentured servitude and slavery. Since you are so educated you would know this.
Also, the indentured servants, especially once freed, began to pose a threat to the property-owning elite. The colonial establishment had placed restrictions on available lands, creating unrest among newly freed indentured servants. In 1676, working class men burned down Jamestown, making indentured servitude look even less attractive to Virginia leaders. Also, servants moved on, forcing a need for costly replacements; slaves, especially ones you could identify by skin color, could not move on and become free competitors.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part1/1narr3.html
This was taken from the link you provided.
Never has the white man been bred into captivity in the United States. I assume you have images of white slave ships unlike what has been proved with the African slaves.
http://hitchcock.itc.virginia.edu/SlaveTrade/...
http://hitchcock.itc.virginia.edu/Slavery/ret... (Middle%20Passage)
So you can state half truths to make yourself feel better but you and I know the truth.
While it is true that “Never has the white man been bred into captivity in the United States” you fail to acknowledge that white folks have been enslaved, same as blacks, for thousands of years. You also fail to acknowledge that the blood of many thousands of white people were shed to protect and free black slaves in USA.

You and I agree that all slavery is evil, yet it was white Christians who were responsible for ending slavery for the first time in recorded history.

Read the book, "Bury the Chains" by Adam Hochschild. The book traces the history of the world's first anti-slavery movement, which began with a meeting of 12 "deeply religious" men in London in 1787. In our politically correct world, you might guess why this book is so unpopular with the elitist, Ivory Tower dwelling intellectuals, but you have the internet at your fingertips so are able to verify or discredit facts stated.

For me, this is not about which frigging team wins. It is about truth versus lies. Period.

Since: Sep 07

Maumee, OH

#27 May 9, 2011
Sheik yer Buti wrote:
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While it is true that “Never has the white man been bred into captivity in the United States” you fail to acknowledge that white folks have been enslaved, same as blacks, for thousands of years. You also fail to acknowledge that the blood of many thousands of white people were shed to protect and free black slaves in USA.
You and I agree that all slavery is evil, yet it was white Christians who were responsible for ending slavery for the first time in recorded history.
Read the book, "Bury the Chains" by Adam Hochschild. The book traces the history of the world's first anti-slavery movement, which began with a meeting of 12 "deeply religious" men in London in 1787. In our politically correct world, you might guess why this book is so unpopular with the elitist, Ivory Tower dwelling intellectuals, but you have the internet at your fingertips so are able to verify or discredit facts stated.
For me, this is not about which frigging team wins. It is about truth versus lies. Period.
There again you are switching lanes without a turn signal. Your previous post stated that whites slaves had it worse then black slaves and I read this meaning here in the US. I am aware of whites helping blacks to gain freedom.(Harriet Beecher Stowe, John Brown, William Wilberforce(Wilberforce University a black school is name after him) Quakers and many others. Surprisingly blacks believe books such as Uncle Tom's Cabin helped the start of anti-slave movement in the US.

Also your statement about white slaves is true but all races have been enslaved. Again we are talking about slaves in the United States not in the world. You made statements about white slaves in the US and I disproved your half truths and myths. Sorry not trying anger you.
Sheik yer Buti

Colorado Springs, CO

#28 May 10, 2011
pamiety wrote:
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There again you are switching lanes without a turn signal. Your previous post stated that whites slaves had it worse then black slaves and I read this meaning here in the US. I am aware of whites helping blacks to gain freedom.(Harriet Beecher Stowe, John Brown, William Wilberforce(Wilberforce University a black school is name after him) Quakers and many others. Surprisingly blacks believe books such as Uncle Tom's Cabin helped the start of anti-slave movement in the US.
Also your statement about white slaves is true but all races have been enslaved. Again we are talking about slaves in the United States not in the world. You made statements about white slaves in the US and I disproved your half truths and myths. Sorry not trying anger you.
In other words, our disagreement is all about semantics? I can’t possibly spell out every detail of research conducted over 40 years in this forum. I believe you are a truth seeker, so you will have to do most research on your own. Sorry about that, but really, you wouldn’t take my word as gospel truth even if I offered 500 pages of facts here. But that is a good thing. Never trust what someone else tells you unless or until you have verified the facts.

I could recommend two-dozen books for you to read, but in this day and age it is not necessary to spend months and years seeking facts. When I originally started my research, there was no internet so I’d spend two days a week in the library researching. You have information at your fingertips. How wonderful for both of us that 20 hours per week are not spent in the library!!!

Fact is, indentured servants were black and white in early years of Colonial USA history. Even blacks fell under rules and law of “slave redemptions.” And unfortunately,“redemption” of slaves is still happening today in some African nations.

You seek to split proverbial hairs over terminology regarding indentured servants versus slave status. Fact is, both were slaves. Difference is that under one corrupt, perverse law, slavery had a time line if enough money appeared after a certain time line.

Guess what is happening today in Ireland? Keep up with global events and you will realize that government and human nature has not “evolved” for thousands of years. LOL! Question is, will you continue to focus your attention on the rear view mirror, or become aware that serfdom and slavery is once again a threat to US citizens?

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