Understanding Suicide Risk Among Afri...

Understanding Suicide Risk Among African-American Women

There are 7 comments on the PsychCentral story from Dec 14, 2012, titled Understanding Suicide Risk Among African-American Women. In it, PsychCentral reports that:

Learning more about the root cause of suicidal ideation is a core task for mental health providers as discovering why people contemplate suicide is vital for prevention and support.

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Pull My Leg

Greenville, NC

#1 Dec 15, 2012
Isn't it facinating how the majority of white people separate themselves from and avoid black people like the plague yet they think they are experts on black people? Isn't that like being on the outside looking in? The study was done to provide prevention and support on suicidal ideation among AA women yet the article doesn't mention ways to prevent or offer mechanisms on how to cope with gender discrimination or racism. It just wants to remind that it exists and now alleges that it affects self esteem of AA women which is hard for me to believe based on the thousands of AA women I have encountered in all socioeconomic statuses.
This study was done based on only 240 disadvantaged low economic status AA women. Where were these women picked from? Were these random women or were these women who attempted or contemplated suicide because of racism?
This article is puzzling because from an early age, most AA women, whether from the ghetto or more affluent areas, were taught about the ignorance of racism and discrimination. They were strengthened with emotional and spiritual guidance on how to cope with it while preserving their self-esteem. Most see it as an evil or ill of society. Experiences of racism cannot be digested or internalized.


National Whistleblower

“GOVERNMENT OF DECEIVERS (GOD)”

Since: Sep 10

NEWARK, NEW JERSEY

#2 Dec 15, 2012
Pull My Leg wrote:
Isn't it facinating how the majority of white people separate themselves from and avoid black people like the plague yet they think they are experts on black people? Isn't that like being on the outside looking in? The study was done to provide prevention and support on suicidal ideation among AA women yet the article doesn't mention ways to prevent or offer mechanisms on how to cope with gender discrimination or racism. It just wants to remind that it exists and now alleges that it affects self esteem of AA women which is hard for me to believe based on the thousands of AA women I have encountered in all socioeconomic statuses.
This study was done based on only 240 disadvantaged low economic status AA women. Where were these women picked from? Were these random women or were these women who attempted or contemplated suicide because of racism?
This article is puzzling because from an early age, most AA women, whether from the ghetto or more affluent areas, were taught about the ignorance of racism and discrimination. They were strengthened with emotional and spiritual guidance on how to cope with it while preserving their self-esteem. Most see it as an evil or ill of society. Experiences of racism cannot be digested or internalized.
The black woman suffers from the godass. god being the governing oppressive dis ease (mental illness), good OLE deception (deceivers deceive that's what they do) and ass the American Stockholm Syndrome (love for their abusers / those that enable them). Those that lie to them in order to manipulate them. Most deceivers can't get along with anyone that tells them the truth. Hench the number of OLE maids in black churches.(god - good OLE deception). I AM YHVH DEITY THE FARTHER CIPHER 888. Thank YHVH, YHVH welcome, YHVH bless, See YHVH.

You
Have
Victory
Halleluejah!
Thang

North York, Canada

#3 Dec 15, 2012
Pull My Leg wrote:
Isn't it facinating how the majority of white people separate themselves from and avoid black people like the plague yet they think they are experts on black people? Isn't that like being on the outside looking in? The study was done to provide prevention and support on suicidal ideation among AA women yet the article doesn't mention ways to prevent or offer mechanisms on how to cope with gender discrimination or racism. It just wants to remind that it exists and now alleges that it affects self esteem of AA women which is hard for me to believe based on the thousands of AA women I have encountered in all socioeconomic statuses.
This study was done based on only 240 disadvantaged low economic status AA women. Where were these women picked from? Were these random women or were these women who attempted or contemplated suicide because of racism?
This article is puzzling because from an early age, most AA women, whether from the ghetto or more affluent areas, were taught about the ignorance of racism and discrimination. They were strengthened with emotional and spiritual guidance on how to cope with it while preserving their self-esteem. Most see it as an evil or ill of society. Experiences of racism cannot be digested or internalized.
Suicide is a hard one for medicos to figure out, although much work is usually focused on poverty and environment, a lot of very rich and successful people do commit suicide every year.

I have known several suicides in my experience and three of five had very good lives and the other two were bipolar depressives, so were at risk anyway. Of the three 'good live' victims, one had the sexiest woman I have ever known as his wife, had a very successful well paid job in the aerospace industry, owned his own home, several cars and two motorcycles. Everything to live for and he hung himself, left a note explaining what his funeral should be but NEVER explained why :(

Black people think it is a white thing, it isn't, all ethnicities of people commit suicide, most we never know why. Some we never even find, they just disappear. The human mind is a wonderful but dangerous thing.

Also there is stigma with people having suicidal thoughts, people just don't want to know or think that you are seeking attention. Sometimes this is true but even attention seekers commit suicide sometimes.

The problem, as I see it, is that our minds are always creating our reality, all our daily experiences and sensory input is open to interpretation by our minds, add brain chemistry and reality can be almost anything, a very fit 220 pound, self-confident, alpha-male football player can turn into a nervous wreck in a flash if something goes wrong with his 'reality system'.

People really can believe that they are Napoleon, an alien or a dog, and nothing we can do will change their minds, all we can do is keep them safe until, maybe they figure things out themselves with some psychoanalysis or something.

But the thing about reality is that once someone is tired of life or thinks they are worthless, it doesn't matter if they are a billionaire or a successful artist, their mind is what their reality is, and if their mind says "It's my time to go.." not much we can do about it.
Thang

North York, Canada

#4 Dec 15, 2012
National Whistleblower wrote:
<quoted text>The black woman suffers from the godass. god being the governing oppressive dis ease (mental illness), good OLE deception (deceivers deceive that's what they do) and ass the American Stockholm Syndrome (love for their abusers / those that enable them). Those that lie to them in order to manipulate them. Most deceivers can't get along with anyone that tells them the truth. Hench the number of OLE maids in black churches.(god - good OLE deception). I AM YHVH DEITY THE FARTHER CIPHER 888. Thank YHVH, YHVH welcome, YHVH bless, See YHVH.
You
Have
Victory
Halleluejah!
Suicidal people need help and understanding, not religious dogma and lies.
the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#5 Dec 15, 2012
black males commit suicide at rates equal to, or greater than both genders of other races even though they command only a seven percent share of the U.S. population. much proof exists. mentally, blacks' hearts can often be as fragile as a hot knife through butter.
Pull My Leg

Greenville, NC

#6 Dec 15, 2012
Thang wrote:
<quoted text>
Suicide is a hard one for medicos to figure out, although much work is usually focused on poverty and environment, a lot of very rich and successful people do commit suicide every year.
I have known several suicides in my experience and three of five had very good lives and the other two were bipolar depressives, so were at risk anyway. Of the three 'good live' victims, one had the sexiest woman I have ever known as his wife, had a very successful well paid job in the aerospace industry, owned his own home, several cars and two motorcycles. Everything to live for and he hung himself, left a note explaining what his funeral should be but NEVER explained why :(
Black people think it is a white thing, it isn't, all ethnicities of people commit suicide, most we never know why. Some we never even find, they just disappear. The human mind is a wonderful but dangerous thing.
Also there is stigma with people having suicidal thoughts, people just don't want to know or think that you are seeking attention. Sometimes this is true but even attention seekers commit suicide sometimes.
The problem, as I see it, is that our minds are always creating our reality, all our daily experiences and sensory input is open to interpretation by our minds, add brain chemistry and reality can be almost anything, a very fit 220 pound, self-confident, alpha-male football player can turn into a nervous wreck in a flash if something goes wrong with his 'reality system'.
People really can believe that they are Napoleon, an alien or a dog, and nothing we can do will change their minds, all we can do is keep them safe until, maybe they figure things out themselves with some psychoanalysis or something.
But the thing about reality is that once someone is tired of life or thinks they are worthless, it doesn't matter if they are a billionaire or a successful artist, their mind is what their reality is, and if their mind says "It's my time to go.." not much we can do about it.
This article is specifically focused toward AA women with suicidal ideations brought on by experiences of gender and race discrimination. AA women have the lowest rate of suicide of all other races.
True, psychoanalyst tend to focus on environment and socioeconomic status to gauge everything including suicide. They look at cause and effect although there are many whose minds are resilient to what's going on in their environment be it good or bad.
People who have suicidal ideations are walking in the flesh and not in the spirit.


the boundaries of space

Atlanta, GA

#7 Dec 18, 2012
black males are rarely the victims in murder-suicide cases where a wife or g/f pulls the trigger because most secure women see black males as either easily-disposable or even worthless and therefore, don't get themselves that attached. the McNair/Kazemi incident is only one of few cases of its kind in recent times.

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