Koch-backed group hits Obama on green energy waste

Apr 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Reuters

U.S. President Barack Obama attends a roundtable discussion about the rising costs of student loans while at the University of Iowa in Iowa City, April 25, 2012.

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There is however a small problem with your "veryfiable facts," you can't documnet a single one of them it is nothing more than right-wingnuz-noise. Look at Romney's "marvelous" budget plan. It will hit you, yes you the middle class, the hardest. I can understand pundits being hopelessly biased, but when they have so many of us regular guys brainwashed for principles that are so obviously not in our best self-interests it scares me. Turn off the fox news alternate universe, put down the spray-paint ladened sock, and take off your aluminum cap -- the sky is not falling.
Wanna bet. Actually I do not have to. Plenty of others have. Yes, some are going to be right wing noise yet still documented while others are going to be harder for people like you to ignore.

The Middle Class has already been hit by Obama's budget. They have been hit hard and in some cases fell from the middle class and are now the poor. Those people are voters who Obama will have a hard time convincing. Those are the people who voted for him last time who will vote against them.

As for the, turn off the fox news alternate universe, put down the spray-paint ladened sock, and take off your aluminum cap -- the sky is not falling remark. I normally don't watch Fox and live in the real world and not the alternate universe and would not bother to spray paint a sock or waste aluminum foil making it into a cap.

In fact, can someone tell me why you would spray paint a sock?

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Notice that your only source for proof is Fact Check while I could provide multiple sources. Prove that Face Check themselves are not lying? Can you do that.
The bald face lie is that the stimulas did not help the economy. The numbers do not lie and are incapable of lying.
I notice you didn't provide a single damn link! There are about TWENTY link within the Factcheck.org story: http://factcheck.org/2012/04/straining-the-fa...

Ex-GSA chief not at Solyndra during Vegas confab story was confirmed by literally DOZENs of reputable sources including ABC, Politico, LAT Times, AP, Washington Post...among others-

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Holtz-Eakin Joins the Recovery Act Champions
Conservative Economistís Own Methodology Demonstrates the Success of Stimulus....It may seem surprising that Holtz-Eakin, the former Congressional Budget Office director, former chief economic advisor to Sen. John McCainís 2008 presidential campaign, and current president of the conservative American Action Forum, would throw his support behind the stimulus bill. But thatís what heís doneówhether he likes it or not.... http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/0...

Of the nine studies Iíve found, six find that the stimulus had a significant, positive effect on employment and growth, and three find that the effect was either quite small or impossible to detect..." http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klei...

"Zandi and co-author Alan Blinder, former vice chairman of the Federal Reserve, released the most detailed assessment of the government's efforts to combat the so-called Great Recession. Neither economist is regarded as a partisan firebrand. Zandi, for example, backed John McCain in the 2008 presidential campaign and has advised members of both parties.

Their conclusion: The fiscal stimulus created 2.7 million jobs and added $460 billion to gross domestic product. Unemployment would be 11% today if the stimulus hadn't been passed and 16.5% if neither the fiscal stimulus nor the banks' rescue had been enacted, according to Zandi and Blinder. "It's pretty hard to deny that it had a measurable impact," Zandi said..." http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2010-08...

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I notice you didn't provide a single damn link! There are about TWENTY link within the Factcheck.org story: http://factcheck.org/2012/04/straining-the-fa...
Ex-GSA chief not at Solyndra during Vegas confab story was confirmed by literally DOZENs of reputable sources including ABC, Politico, LAT Times, AP, Washington Post...among others-
Because I had already supplied them earlier to you. And the links I provided also had thier own links. Meanwhile you still are stuck with one lousy little source. Nor did I ever say that the GSA chief was at Solyndra. She was in Las Vegas blowing taxpayer's money like crazy and providing the GOP with plenty of ammo for the upcoming election.

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Because I had already supplied them earlier to you. And the links I provided also had thier own links. Meanwhile you still are stuck with one lousy little source. Nor did I ever say that the GSA chief was at Solyndra. She was in Las Vegas blowing taxpayer's money like crazy and providing the GOP with plenty of ammo for the upcoming election.
"Because I had already supplied them earlier to you." BALD FACED LIE.....there isn't a single friggin' link.

The Koch-Brothers ad you are defending used the the BALD FACED LIE about the GSA chief & Solyndra.

My ONE link PROVED the ad was BULLSH!T....but facts don't matter to to dittoheads, foxholes, or teabaggers.
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Wanna bet. Actually I do not have to. Plenty of others have. Yes, some are going to be right wing noise yet still documented while others are going to be harder for people like you to ignore.
The Middle Class has already been hit by Obama's budget. They have been hit hard and in some cases fell from the middle class and are now the poor. Those people are voters who Obama will have a hard time convincing. Those are the people who voted for him last time who will vote against them.
As for the, turn off the fox news alternate universe, put down the spray-paint ladened sock, and take off your aluminum cap -- the sky is not falling remark. I normally don't watch Fox and live in the real world and not the alternate universe and would not bother to spray paint a sock or waste aluminum foil making it into a cap.
In fact, can someone tell me why you would spray paint a sock?
Spray paint a sock? And you claim to live in the real world - I dunno?

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"Because I had already supplied them earlier to you." BALD FACED LIE.....there isn't a single friggin' link.
The Koch-Brothers ad you are defending used the the BALD FACED LIE about the GSA chief & Solyndra.
My ONE link PROVED the ad was BULLSH!T....but facts don't matter to to dittoheads, foxholes, or teabaggers.
Try post 14. Three links. Of course the blinders you keep from seeing the truth might be in the way but everyone else will be able to see them with no problem.

Your one link only proves how narrow minded you were.

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Spray paint a sock? And you claim to live in the real world - I dunno?
I do not know either. But Pastaroy was talking about it and to tell the truth I have no idea why anyone would spray paint a sock. So I asked if anyone else knew. After all, no one person knows everything.
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The koke brothers own georgia-pacific:

Here are some of their products you can boycott:

Angel Soft, Quilted Northern, and Soft n Gentle toilet paper; Brawny paper towels; any of the Dixie plates, bowls and napkins; Sparkle, Vanity Fair and Zee napkins; Georgia-Pacific's paper products.
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The koke brothers own georgia-pacific:
Here are some of their products you can boycott:
Angel Soft, Quilted Northern, and Soft n Gentle toilet paper; Brawny paper towels; any of the Dixie plates, bowls and napkins; Sparkle, Vanity Fair and Zee napkins; Georgia-Pacific's paper products.
LOL... The only time you have to defend yourself Parrot Flunkie, is when your babble is failing you moron..
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You're out of toilet paper idiot...
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It's the culture...
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FL gov scott told to tone-down the state's recovery, by rugby campaign. It doesn't fit their anti-obama lies.

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It's the con culture.

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The koke brothers own georgia-pacific:
Here are some of their products you can boycott:
Angel Soft, Quilted Northern, and Soft n Gentle toilet paper; Brawny paper towels; any of the Dixie plates, bowls and napkins; Sparkle, Vanity Fair and Zee napkins; Georgia-Pacific's paper products.
They own many companies that employ Americans. So instead you rather give that money to chinese companies who have even worse pollution.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/chin...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/world/asia/...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/ma...
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They own many companies that employ Americans. So instead you rather give that money to chinese companies who have even worse pollution.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/chin...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/world/asia/...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/ma...
Yep...give it to the corrupt AMERICAN companies. They will screw you more than the Chinese.

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<quoted text>Yep...give it to the corrupt AMERICAN companies. They will screw you more than the Chinese.
Not really, the Chinese have centuries more experience and are as worried about pissing people off. Not to mention a few extra deaths from pollution is not an issue for them. If the population actually dips then all they have to do is let a few extra couples have a second child.
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Better to buy some china china than support the kokeheads and their attempt to purchase the Presidency.

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Better to buy some china china than support the kokeheads and their attempt to purchase the Presidency.
What do you think the Chinese did. They brought the guy in the White House.

Meanwhile there is the fact that green energy produces some seriously toxic waste.

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"Because I had already supplied them earlier to you." BALD FACED LIE.....there isn't a single friggin' link.
The Koch-Brothers ad you are defending used the the BALD FACED LIE about the GSA chief & Solyndra.
My ONE link PROVED the ad was BULLSH!T....but facts don't matter to to dittoheads, foxholes, or teabaggers.
Really, one link actually proves nothing and is easy to disprove.

As for the bald faced lie about Solyndra, the courts seem to disagree with you and after personal experience with the GSA I would have to wonder why anyone would think they are trustworthy.
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What do you think the Chinese did. They brought the guy in the White House.
Meanwhile there is the fact that green energy produces some seriously toxic waste.
Like the fracking water being shipped to and poisoning Ohioans, thanks to PA's corrupt con governor sandusky, er corbett?

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