Battles endure over undocumented scho...

Battles endure over undocumented schoolchildren

There are 11 comments on the The Washington Post story from Mar 14, 2012, titled Battles endure over undocumented schoolchildren. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

So, too, with the Supreme Court case Plyler v. Doe, which allowed undocumented children to enroll in Texas public schools and marked a turning point in immigration rights.

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“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#1 Mar 14, 2012
Plyler v. Doe was brought down at a time when there were far fewer illegal aliens here. It also specifically stated this was being done as long as educating these kids was not burdensome. Well, now it's costly and burdensome, especially since there are so many of them. The whole field has changed and that ridiculous ruling needs to be changed.

The backbreaking work others won't do? LMAO! That's been proven false so many times it just makes the person saying such a thing sound like an ignorant fool.

Quote:
Most educators are drawn to the story’s narrative arc: innocent children brought to a new country where their families live in the shadows
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Their families should stay home and, if they want to immigrate here, they need to do it the right way. Otherwise, they can hide in the shadows and go home if they don't like it. In all reality, though, that hiding in the shadows crap is just that -- a bunch of CRAP. They are rallying in our streets for their "rights" they have no right to demand, much less receive.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#2 Mar 15, 2012
"When President Reagan and Congress enacted comprehensive immigration reform in 1986, it was possible for many of these children to become citizens. Even early opponents such as James Plyler, the Tyler, Texas superintendent, later indicated that he was happy the case turned out as it did, inasmuch as these children were permitted to stay and get an education."

“The amnesty was the worst mistake of my presidency.”-Ronald Reagan.

"In our society, then as now, we do not punish our children for the transgressions of their parents."

Deportation is not a punishment, it merely removes a person who does not have a right to be here and returns them to the country of their birth.

Illegal aliens think they have found a loophole. Who's mean enough to deport children? I'am!!!
Topper

De Soto, KS

#3 Mar 16, 2012
Take this one back up!
Free is free

Rio Rancho, NM

#4 Mar 16, 2012
Plyler v. Doe has go to go! It was never intended to be abused the way it has been and American taxpayers have gotten sick of paying for the primary education of people here illegally.

No, we don't punish kids for the transgressions of their parents, but we do send those same children home with their parents when we deport *them* for entering the country illegally.

The battle is never going to go away, because the Plyler v. Doe ruling is fundamentally *wrong*. It forces US taxpayers to fund educations for people who have stolen into the country illegally. That's wrong on every level and taxpayers are just now beginning to voice their anger. As long as this idiotic ruling is allowed to stand, Americans are going to rail against it - and a Government that tries to justify it.
hmmmmmm

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Mar 16, 2012
Now, why did I have to provide a birth certificate and since-birth shot record in order to register my kids in public school ?.
Free is free

Rio Rancho, NM

#8 Mar 16, 2012
undocumented american wrote:
<quoted text>
citizens cannot take away supreme court ruling. even undocumented american like me knows that
That's where you're wrong. We can and eventually will prevail. People have had enough of the nonsense.
Exactly

De Soto, KS

#9 Mar 16, 2012
hmmmmmm wrote:
Now, why did I have to provide a birth certificate and since-birth shot record in order to register my kids in public school ?.
I agree.
Free is free

Rio Rancho, NM

#13 Mar 16, 2012
Wrong. Free education of illegal aliens' offspring is but one piece of a large magnet that we're slowly turning off.

Taking away jobs, access to social services, unpaid access to our health system and the ability to find a place to live are the keys to letting these people know it's time to pack up and leave. They'll self deport if there's nothing to keep them here.

I'm for anything that turns off all or any pieces of the magnet, in any order they may happen to occur. We have to start somewhere and if this is where, I'm good with it.
The Real American wrote:
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OK, heres my take on this.
I understand that you don't want undocumented immigrant children plugging our nations schools as I do see todays K-12 eduction system being stretched thin by a wave of students who's parents and/or guardians are not paying their fair share in taxes for them to be here not to mention that they're here in violation of immigration laws. Another thing I see is that there is no way to put a cap on this either.
Now these children are here in the USA and for one reason, their parents and/or guardians are here.
I have to wonder why you'd not want these children in school. At least they're spending time being educated and indoctrinated into American culture. Heck my 5 yr old is all hyped with singing the pledge of allegiance so much that I actually had to go buy an small American flag for his room just so he can feel like he's in class.
Now what would it be like if these children were told to stay at home? They'd be nothing more than school drop outs and left at home alone. It's bad enough that some studies show that the largest group of illegal immigrants the Hispanics already have close to a 50% drop out rate so why do we as a society want to dumb them down even more?
I rather spend the money to have then in school than to spend the money to incarcerate them becuase they're out in the streets hustling or doing whatever people do when they're not in school.
Now I know your all have your magic bullets by saying deport them all but that's not happening nor is it on either the Republican or Democrat agenda. All I see from both parties are dog & pony shows filled with rhetoric that never actually happens.
So until I see some real immigration enforcement that gets illegals to go back home, I think I'll support the idea of them being able to goto school. I rather see them in school than on the streets.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#14 Mar 18, 2012
undocumented american wrote:
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citizens cannot take away supreme court ruling. even undocumented american like me knows that
This is where YOU are wrong. The Supreme Court ruling had specific language in it stating that as long as the schooling of these kids was not a burden on the taxpayers/schools. It has become a burden and thus we can get it overturned. We merely have to work at it...and so we shall.

You are not an undocumented American. There is no such thing. Get a life, go home if you're here illegally, and STFU. You're obviously an ignorant law breaker with no regard for anyone but yourself. You are criminally minded. We don't need any more of your type here.

Pack your bags! You're going home soon!

Once the Supreme Court rules on Arizona's law and finds it acceptable, that sets precedent and watch how many other states enact similar laws. You won't have anywhere to run and hide -- except maybe California, and it's only a matter of time there, as well.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#16 Mar 18, 2012
The constitution never mentions education so federal judges had no business even getting involved in this issue. Congress needs to tell the SC to repeal Plyler or the judges will be impeached and removed.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#17 Mar 18, 2012
Rebel wrote:
<quoted text>
This is where YOU are wrong. The Supreme Court ruling had specific language in it stating that as long as the schooling of these kids was not a burden on the taxpayers/schools..
And even that is stupid. More judges legislating from the bench. The court had absolutely no legal reason for ruling as they did in plyler. They just invented the "right" of illegals to get free k-12.

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