System to blame for illegal student's...

System to blame for illegal student's predicament?

There are 25 comments on the The Herald-Gazette story from May 21, 2010, titled System to blame for illegal student's predicament?. In it, The Herald-Gazette reports that:

By Don McKee Marietta Daily Journal "I never thought that I was going to be caught up in this messed-up system." So said Jessica Colotl quite candidly about being found out after living in this country illegally for 10 years and enjoying its benefits including enrollment in Kennesaw State University.

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Justin

Richmond, VA

#1 May 21, 2010
What system are you referring to; Mexico ?
kathleen

Seattle, WA

#2 May 21, 2010
So where is the Mexican government ? Shouldn't they be helping one of their citizens ? The seem to be absent as usual , apparently they want Americans to be responsible for their citizens. Mexicans want us to pick up the tab while they reap the benefits. I guess if we are stupid enough to give it to them they WILL take it. It's funny if we practised Mexicos immigration policy we wouldn't have a problem with so many illegal aliens from Mexico, because we wouldn't have any.

AmericanBoer

“Gods Warrior”

Since: Jan 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#3 May 21, 2010
The school system that failed to detect them and alert ICE in a timely manner?

“starting to wake up”

Since: Apr 09

brookhaven ny

#4 May 22, 2010
boohoo cry me a river she knew she was here illegaly she got caugth now send her back let mexico give her the schooling
RAN

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#5 May 22, 2010
I think every state should impliment an Arizona like law without hesitation if we believe it is the right thing to do but, I don't think we do.
We are a generous people in our actions to the poor and oppresed and the world respect us for that
we always take the high moral ground because our compassion as a people of god towards our fellow men and we should cherish that preception or fact.
This whole thing is not a debate its a verbal war of compition between who? Americans and the poor Mexicians people here illegally, is this the level of our being? or some are fueling a fire for their own agenda?

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#6 May 22, 2010
What ever happened to personal accountability? She was illegal, she knew it from the sounds of it, she got caught.

If she were in any other country, she could be facing jail - just talk to the hikers that accidentally crossed a border - no intent to break the law but they did and are in jail.

Our hospitality has a nation has been abused and exploited for decades. It is like that relative who shows up unannounced and does not go home on a much larger scale. Then when they find their bags on the front stoop and a bus ticket to their home, they get angry.

AmericanBoer

“Gods Warrior”

Since: Jan 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#7 May 22, 2010
Biker Mom wrote:
What ever happened to personal accountability? She was illegal, she knew it from the sounds of it, she got caught.
If she were in any other country, she could be facing jail - just talk to the hikers that accidentally crossed a border - no intent to break the law but they did and are in jail.
Our hospitality has a nation has been abused and exploited for decades. It is like that relative who shows up unannounced and does not go home on a much larger scale. Then when they find their bags on the front stoop and a bus ticket to their home, they get angry.
Have you ever noticed progressives look for every explanation BUT personal responsibility?

Everything in the world seems to be others fault in the 'progressive' world, from rape to illegal alien border jumpers and everything they 'disagree with' in between.

Here is an example of the insanity that is liberalism.

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/04/2...

NO personal responsibility and everyone's fault but..

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#8 May 22, 2010
IT'S NOT MY FAULT!! I'M A VIIIICTIM!!I'M BEING OPPRESSED!!
Down and Out

New York, NY

#9 May 22, 2010
AmericanBoer - CLASSIC!!
"Have you ever noticed progressives look for every explanation BUT personal responsibilty?"
THAT IS RICH!

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#10 May 22, 2010
AmericanBoer wrote:
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Have you ever noticed progressives look for every explanation BUT personal responsibility?
Everything in the world seems to be others fault in the 'progressive' world, from rape to illegal alien border jumpers and everything they 'disagree with' in between.
Here is an example of the insanity that is liberalism.
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/04/2...
NO personal responsibility and everyone's fault but..
And everyone is a victim of something so that justifies the behavior. Come on... I went to school with people from lousy situations, grew up in what at that time was basically a mill town trying to revitalize itself. Mnay of us had dads who worked full time, moms who worked part time and grandparents who picked up the child care. Most of uf were second generation US citizens.

I could tell the stories of what happened to myself and some of my friends. But most of us turned out fine. I have a friend who was horribly emotionally abused by adoptive parents, got worse when he came out of the closet, he is now a PhD teaching at a CA University. He did not go out and take out his frustrations on others, turn to drugs, or whatever. He picked himself up, went to work, went to school and is a well respected professor. My husband grew up as a latch-key kid, father suffered many layoffs due to technology and he was obsolete so he became a janitor. His mom was primary breadwinner. He is now a respected lab supervisor who has collaborated as an author on various medical and research papers, abstracts, etc in his field. How is it that many of us could see how our actions affected others and our lives? Many if us did not become the victim of circumstance and took hold and accountability.

However, around the time many of us were in our late teens, the next set of teens were more "I deserve so I will get" and it got worse. Now, those around my age and about ten years younger-ish and even more, are raising generations to be "I want, I will get" or "I am the victim... I cannot be accountable for what I did."

A girl I went to high school with is in jail (convicted in the past six months) of killing her infant. It was the POOR ME! defense. Well in high school she CHOSE to be the partier and had the money to do so. She came from a well-off family too. She had it all and tossed it away. But when you read the comments to her new stories, OH POOR HER... Those of us who knew her from school and tried to hold her accountable for the murder of her child got reamed. She chose to do drugs. She chose to go back to them after getting clean. She chose to get pregnant as a single woman in her late 30's as opposed using birth control.

I will tell you, my kids are learning accountability. The kids of many of my friends are (one was almost failing because he was not talking to teachers about assignments he missed while out sick, he was too shy and his mom told him that it is not her fault of the teacher's, he is in middle school and has to take responsibility).

But we have how many who are teaching victimization and you are never at fault... And then what?

Take a look around.
Concerned About Americans

Orlando, FL

#11 May 22, 2010
AmericanBoer wrote:
The school system that failed to detect them and alert ICE in a timely manner?
In many of the states their schools are not allowed to ask about the "Immigration Status"of the students but have to enroll all comers.
That was the big fuss about "Proposition 90" in California, it would have not allowed schools to enroll Illegals.
The "Immigrant Rights" groups are trying to change the image of the Illegals in front of the Television News cameras at the demonstrations against the Arizona Law they are staging:
http://www.tcunation.com/profiles/blogs/chang...

AmericanBoer

“Gods Warrior”

Since: Jan 10

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#12 May 22, 2010
Biker Mom wrote:
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But we have how many who are teaching victimization and you are never at fault... And then what?
Great post. I could not agree more with everything you have said.

The most damaging effect of this mentality is violent criminals being released 20 times over and the victims made into the guilty!
Massively overcrowded prisons with folks locked up for 'life', assaulting and victimizing each other for 30 or 40 years on our dime is another.

Women and children pay the highest price from this mentality. It is truly disgusting that progressives even consider the psychotic and criminally insane on the same level as everyone else, and sometimes superior because it just 'is not their fault' you know....

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#13 May 22, 2010
AmericanBoer wrote:
<quoted text>
Great post. I could not agree more with everything you have said.
The most damaging effect of this mentality is violent criminals being released 20 times over and the victims made into the guilty!
Massively overcrowded prisons with folks locked up for 'life', assaulting and victimizing each other for 30 or 40 years on our dime is another.
Women and children pay the highest price from this mentality. It is truly disgusting that progressives even consider the psychotic and criminally insane on the same level as everyone else, and sometimes superior because it just 'is not their fault' you know....
THANK YOU!!!! You have no idea how many times I have it implicated by others that I am a bad parent becauase I say "No" ot my kids, do not give in to whining (they rarely whine for things), my oldest has no cell phone (and when he gets one all texting and internet access will be disabled and I will install the tracking call program so parents know when someone unauthorized by them calls), etc. My kids are respectful, they get a lot but they also know limits and the value of a buck. And for parenting, I am called a bad parent.

Go figure...:P

It is too bad that teachers have to parent too!

So, who is at fault? The girl who knew she was here illegally and got caught.
true

Stuart, VA

#14 May 22, 2010
send the student back with all the new smarts to change there corupt country
Whitey

Tremont, PA

#15 May 22, 2010
Why is she not on a bus yet at the border?

“starting to wake up”

Since: Apr 09

brookhaven ny

#16 May 22, 2010
RAN wrote:
I think every state should impliment an Arizona like law without hesitation if we believe it is the right thing to do but, I don't think we do.
We are a generous people in our actions to the poor and oppresed and the world respect us for that
we always take the high moral ground because our compassion as a people of god towards our fellow men and we should cherish that preception or fact.
This whole thing is not a debate its a verbal war of compition between who? Americans and the poor Mexicians people here illegally, is this the level of our being? or some are fueling a fire for their own agenda?
here an idea put a sing out in front of your home illegals welcome here leave your front door open get back to us next week and give us an update ok

“starting to wake up”

Since: Apr 09

brookhaven ny

#17 May 22, 2010
opps sign sorry
Deporter

Cold Spring Harbor, NY

#18 May 22, 2010
Yes, the system is messed up. YOU should be deported post-haste.
zman

Bridgewater, NJ

#19 May 24, 2010
a bright student is not always right....youre parents are illegals you are illegal....it is what it is....do the right thing which your parents forgot to teach you....

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#20 May 24, 2010
zman wrote:
a bright student is not always right....youre parents are illegals you are illegal....it is what it is....do the right thing which your parents forgot to teach you....
Unless that child of illegal parents was born here and then we have that anchor baby loophole. Who of thunk that when the 14th Amendment was written to protect the children of any slaves brought here (and there was Asian slaves as well when the Africans became in shorter supply), that it would be corrupted to cover people choosing to come here illegally?

Bright students have a rose colored glasses view of the world and too many assume they are entitled to things. They have the smarts to use it for their *ahem* advantage. Then you have those who are just raised being told they are entitled to anything even if they did not earn it and even if their actions state they should not deserve it.

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