Georgia colleges must check all stude...

Georgia colleges must check all students to see if they're legal

There are 36 comments on the www.ajc.com story from Jun 11, 2010, titled Georgia colleges must check all students to see if they're legal. In it, www.ajc.com reports that:

Georgia's public colleges are expected to verify the citizenship status of nearly 316,000 students by the time the fall semester resumes in August, the chancellor's office said Friday.

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“starting to wake up”

Since: Apr 09

brookhaven ny

#1 Jun 11, 2010
and it took how long ??????????
Stop the madness

United States

#2 Jun 11, 2010
Federal law protects LEGAL college student's information....it shouldn't apply to ILlegals.

Since: May 10

Branson, MO

#3 Jun 12, 2010
Now all they need to do is start with the Public and Private schools ! If Illegal get a free ride south of the Border !

Since: Apr 09

small town

#4 Jun 12, 2010
It is about Time. Now Start DEPORTING the illegal immigrants.
Pando

Bullhead City, AZ

#6 Jun 12, 2010
dirtbag1958 wrote:
It is about Time. Now Start DEPORTING the illegal immigrants.
Make that ILLEGAL ALIENS and I agree with you 100%!
Pando

Bullhead City, AZ

#7 Jun 12, 2010
The colleges are unsure how to proceed?

How about requiring a birth certificate or naturalization papers when registering? That's what most schools require (of every student)to enroll in kindergarten.

In fact it should be required anytime you change schools.

Since: Dec 09

Kathleen, GA

#8 Jun 12, 2010
They should have to, everyone else does. They should make you have a BC for every job, even for the office of President of these United States.

Talk about illegal immegrants.
barry

Henagar, AL

#9 Jun 12, 2010
Pando wrote:
<quoted text>
Make that ILLEGAL ALIENS and I agree with you 100%!
obviously you don't know the difference between an illegal immigrant an an illegal alien. one has full legal rights and the other has limited rights. so what part of the law do you wish to ignore? does that then make you illegal?

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#10 Jun 12, 2010
It is time to start enforcing the federal laws against illegals in Georgia. The Board of Regent's have been neglecting their duties by not by not demanding Georgia colleges enforce laws on the books.

Since: Jun 08

Woodbridge, VA

#11 Jun 12, 2010
We are only required to NOT ask for K-12. I have NO issue with asking immigration status for past that. And honestly, any student applying for any financial aid should be verified anyhow, nationwide.

Granted, college is paid for out of pocket - our out of someone else's pocket - but still. If you are wishing as a non-citizen to attend a US college, get a student visa.

And while we are at it, can we start cracking down on student loan abuses like using them for paying for things non-school related - from any student?
FedUpWithAmerica nts

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA

#12 Jun 12, 2010
Another round of the dog chasing its tail.

“Natural laws have no pity”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#13 Jun 12, 2010
barry wrote:
<quoted text>obviously you don't know the difference between an illegal immigrant an an illegal alien. one has full legal rights and the other has limited rights. so what part of the law do you wish to ignore? does that then make you illegal?
There is no difference between the two except that illegal immigrant is more PC.

Let me help you out here.
You see that word "illegal"? It means prohibited by law.

IMMIGRANT: In popular usage, an "immigrant" is generally understood to be a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence. Under this definition, therefore, an "immigrant" is an alien admitted to the U.S. as a lawful permanent resident. The emphasis in this definition is upon the presumptions that (1) the immigrant followed U.S. laws and procedures in establishing residence in our country; (2) he or she wishes to reside here permanently; and (3) he or she swears allegiance to our country or at least solemnly affirms that he/she will observe and respect our laws and our Constitution.

ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country. The word alien is the word used in the Code of Federal Regulations.

ILLEGAL ALIEN: An "illegal alien" is a foreigner who (1) does not owe allegiance to our country; and (2) who has violated our laws and customs in establishing residence in our country. He or she is therefore a criminal under applicable U.S. laws.

Any questions?
barry

Henagar, AL

#14 Jun 12, 2010
Agent of Chaos wrote:
<quoted text>There is no difference between the two except that illegal immigrant is more PC.
Let me help you out here.
You see that word "illegal"? It means prohibited by law.
IMMIGRANT: In popular usage, an "immigrant" is generally understood to be a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence. Under this definition, therefore, an "immigrant" is an alien admitted to the U.S. as a lawful permanent resident. The emphasis in this definition is upon the presumptions that (1) the immigrant followed U.S. laws and procedures in establishing residence in our country; (2) he or she wishes to reside here permanently; and (3) he or she swears allegiance to our country or at least solemnly affirms that he/she will observe and respect our laws and our Constitution.
ALIEN: By contrast, an "alien" is generally understood to be a foreigner -- a person who comes from a foreign country -- who does not owe allegiance to our country. The word alien is the word used in the Code of Federal Regulations.
ILLEGAL ALIEN: An "illegal alien" is a foreigner who (1) does not owe allegiance to our country; and (2) who has violated our laws and customs in establishing residence in our country. He or she is therefore a criminal under applicable U.S. laws.
Any questions?
nice try, bluffing may work at the bar or at home with the wifey but not here.
an illegal immigrant is someone who illegally imiigrates/crosses the boarder [without documentation] they can be classified as criminals, fined and jailed but most likely just deported. an illegal alien is some one who is here without legal or current documentation. they may have arrived legally and overstayed their visa. they may have been brought here as a child. they by law are not criminals they can not be fined or put in jail unless they have previously been told to leave. they are guilty of only an administrative legality.
now of course an illegal immigrant most likely will also be an illegal alien but an illegal alien is not necessarily an illegal immigrant.
kansas city court of appeals 2007
attorney general cristopher cristy [nj] 2008
i could site other legal codes and standard law books but you get the point.
now go buck up and get it right. by law illegal aliens who arennot illegal immigrants have full rights.

“Press 2 for Deportation.”

Since: Apr 09

Norfolk, NE

#15 Jun 12, 2010
What most Americans don't know is that it has been Federal Law since 1996 to bar in-state tuition to illegal aliens, regardless if they graduated from a US HS.

To date, only a few states, like CA and TX and NM, have CHOSEN TO IGNORE FEDERAL LAW, granting illegal aliens who have graduated from one of their high schools in-state tuition for college.

Hmmmmmm......Why haven't the Feds bore down on these states???? PC??? How odd -- Congress passes a bill signed by the President BUT DOES NOT ENFORCE IT. Odd and status quo????

“Press 2 for Deportation.”

Since: Apr 09

Norfolk, NE

#16 Jun 12, 2010
barry wrote:
<quoted text>nice try, bluffing may work at the bar or at home with the wifey but not here.
an illegal immigrant is someone who illegally imiigrates/crosses the boarder [without documentation] they can be classified as criminals, fined and jailed but most likely just deported. an illegal alien is some one who is here without legal or current documentation. they may have arrived legally and overstayed their visa. they may have been brought here as a child. they by law are not criminals they can not be fined or put in jail unless they have previously been told to leave. they are guilty of only an administrative legality.
now of course an illegal immigrant most likely will also be an illegal alien but an illegal alien is not necessarily an illegal immigrant.
kansas city court of appeals 2007
attorney general cristopher cristy [nj] 2008
i could site other legal codes and standard law books but you get the point.
now go buck up and get it right. by law illegal aliens who arennot illegal immigrants have full rights.
If you believe your own hype, I have some land to sell you -- really cheap -- in Louisianna.

You are merely splitting hairs. But you don't fool us Americans who have common sense. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT = ILLEGAL ALIEN.

But thank you for playing. Please spin again.
barry

Henagar, AL

#19 Jun 12, 2010
FedUpWithIllegals wrote:
What most Americans don't know is that it has been Federal Law since 1996 to bar in-state tuition to illegal aliens, regardless if they graduated from a US HS.
To date, only a few states, like CA and TX and NM, have CHOSEN TO IGNORE FEDERAL LAW, granting illegal aliens who have graduated from one of their high schools in-state tuition for college.
Hmmmmmm......Why haven't the Feds bore down on these states???? PC??? How odd -- Congress passes a bill signed by the President BUT DOES NOT ENFORCE IT. Odd and status quo????
because of the way most of these illegal alien students came here and the way the law is written it may not applyy to them.
now i know that is hard to understand but basically the law applies to those who chose to put themselves in the situation and it might not apply to those who innocently find them selves in the situation.
barry

Henagar, AL

#21 Jun 12, 2010
FedUpWithIllegals wrote:
<quoted text>
If you believe your own hype, I have some land to sell you -- really cheap -- in Louisianna.
You are merely splitting hairs. But you don't fool us Americans who have common sense. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT = ILLEGAL ALIEN.
But thank you for playing. Please spin again.
the law is the law, not necessarily logical. now if you willfully ignore the law does that make you illegal?

“Press 2 for Deportation.”

Since: Apr 09

Norfolk, NE

#22 Jun 12, 2010
barry wrote:
<quoted text>because of the way most of these illegal alien students came here and the way the law is written it may not applyy to them.
now i know that is hard to understand but basically the law applies to those who chose to put themselves in the situation and it might not apply to those who innocently find them selves in the situation.
First of all, your post is very vague and evasive. I have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe English is not your first language?

After reading your post 5x and more, I STILL don't get your drift.

Let me explain. You say "but basically the law applies to those who chose to put themselves in the situation and it might not apply to those who innocently find them selves in the situation."

WTF does that mean??? Can someone please explain it to me???

barry, correct me if I'm wrong, BUT WHAT MINOR "chose to put themselves in the situation" compared "to those who innocently find them selves in the situation????" WTF?

First of all, do minors of foreign countries ACTUALLY and WILLINGLY put themselves in that position?? Wow. Those "minors" are making adult choices, in my opinion. WHAT MINOR DOES THIS?? It's beyond belief.

Secondly, for those who "innocently find themselves in that situation," THAT IS NOT THE PROBLEM OF AMERICAN VOTERS. THAT IS A FAMILY PROBLEM. The parents chose to sneak their kids into the US in hopes of another amnesty, and they calculated wrong. The US HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PARENTS' CHOICES. The US did not invite these children in; the illegal parents forced them across the border.

How is this our responsibility??? Why does our Federal Gov HAVE TO GRANT THEM AMNESTY??? This was a choice made by their illegal parents. AREN'T THOSE VERY SAME PARENTS RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRECTING THEIR OWN MISTAKES??? It was a personal choice they made. THE USA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NON-NATIONALS' PRIVATE CHOICES. Get it?? Let's put the blame where it truly belongs: ON THE ILLEGAL PARENTS.

It is THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIX the mess they put their kids into, NOT OURS. If they were truly good parents, they would take all their illegal children back with them to their home country and try to work it out. After all, isn't THAT what illegal aliens use as a defense -- not separating families??

It's time for them to put their money where their mouth is. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THEIR DUPLICITY.

“Press 2 for Deportation.”

Since: Apr 09

Norfolk, NE

#23 Jun 12, 2010
barry wrote:
<quoted text>the law is the law, not necessarily logical. now if you willfully ignore the law does that make you illegal?
Isn't that a question you should be asking of illegal aliens?

Whatever! Your last sentence speaks for your ignorance. Are you drinking btw? Coz you make no sense.

Readers, let me quote what barry posted and you tell me if it makes any sense to you: "now if you willfully ignore the law does that make you illegal?"

Does that make any sense to you? If it does, please explain it to me, coz I just can't seem to wrap my head around it even after rereading it 10 times.

“Press 2 for Deportation.”

Since: Apr 09

Norfolk, NE

#24 Jun 12, 2010
barry wrote:
<quoted text>the law is the law, not necessarily logical. now if you willfully ignore the law does that make you illegal?
Believe me, barry, I am trying real hard to understand what you are saying.

But, I do think I can reply to your post. And my answer is "If you willfully ignore the law," it does not make you illegal, BUT IT SURE DOES MAKE YOU A F*CKING UNREMORSEFUL CRIMINAL. Like psychopathic criminals Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, etc. NO REMORSE.

So, does that answer your question???

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