Dream Act students long for change: 'I don't feel like I'm doing my potential'

Accepted at Cornell as valedictorian of his high school class, Diego is ineligable for financial aid because of his legal status. Read more
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#1 Mar 2, 2012
What a bunch of BS. We're suppposed to give financial aid to people that aren't even allowed to be here??
Democrats are insane.
Right On

Omaha, NE

#2 Mar 2, 2012
Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
What a bunch of BS. We're suppposed to give financial aid to people that aren't even allowed to be here??
Democrats are insane.
Crazy, isn't it?

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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#3 Mar 3, 2012
'I don't feel like I'm doing my potential' Does anybody see anything wrong with this statement? DOING my potential???? Just this statement alone leads me to ponder what kind of grades did the other students make, and who taught the English classes. It's no wonder that we are lagging behind other countries.

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#4 Mar 3, 2012
He's a mexican citizen, I do believe that mexico has some higher education where I'm sure he would be welcome. As far as the family separation goes too sad but he's illegal....toss the entire family back across the border if they want to whine...Heck I'll chip in for some cheeze...

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#5 Mar 3, 2012
teddyr4me wrote:
'I don't feel like I'm doing my potential' Does anybody see anything wrong with this statement? DOING my potential???? Just this statement alone leads me to ponder what kind of grades did the other students make, and who taught the English classes. It's no wonder that we are lagging behind other countries.
Remember, English is a second language for this kid. The fact that he made a minor mistake (I'm guessing he meant "achieving" instead of "doing") does not mean he's a poor student.

He finished as valedictorian in a wealthy, predominantly white town in CT, competing against students who had numerous advantages (native English speakers, money for tutors/prep classes, college educated parents). It's hard for less privileged kids, even those born in this country, to beat the children of the privileged classes. This kid did it while having to simultaneously learn a new language. That is extremely impressive.

I'm an engineer (this kid wants to be an engineer, too). I work with many foreign born engineers (the USA produces far too few engineers) for whom English is a second language. Their English is not perfect. But they are brilliant engineers. The fact that they may occasionally misspeak in their non-native language does not mean that they are stupid or that the education system has failed. You don't need to be a flawless public speaker to be able to understand and apply the Schrodinger equation.

Hell, we aren't all that far removed from a wealthy, priveleged, American born, Ivy League educated President (Bush) who stumbled over his words all the time. So cut this kid a little slack.

I don't think he should be given in-state tuition, but he should not be prevented from applying for loans or scholarships.

This country needs more bright people like him, not less. I hope he gets to go to college and get that engineering degree. It will make this country stronger if he does.
G l o r i A

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Mar 3, 2012
libertarian4321 wrote:
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Remember, English is a second language for this kid. The fact that he made a minor mistake (I'm guessing he meant "achieving" instead of "doing") does not mean he's a poor student.
He finished as valedictorian in a wealthy, predominantly white town in CT, competing against students who had numerous advantages (native English speakers, money for tutors/prep classes, college educated parents). It's hard for less privileged kids, even those born in this country, to beat the children of the privileged classes. This kid did it while having to simultaneously learn a new language. That is extremely impressive.
I'm an engineer (this kid wants to be an engineer, too). I work with many foreign born engineers (the USA produces far too few engineers) for whom English is a second language. Their English is not perfect. But they are brilliant engineers. The fact that they may occasionally misspeak in their non-native language does not mean that they are stupid or that the education system has failed. You don't need to be a flawless public speaker to be able to understand and apply the Schrodinger equation.
Hell, we aren't all that far removed from a wealthy, priveleged, American born, Ivy League educated President (Bush) who stumbled over his words all the time. So cut this kid a little slack.
I don't think he should be given in-state tuition, but he should not be prevented from applying for loans or scholarships.
This country needs more bright people like him, not less. I hope he gets to go to college and get that engineering degree. It will make this country stronger if he does.
We have plenty of American students who will strengthen the country. We have an obligation to THEM - not third world invaders with sob stories.

I think they will be great assets for their countries of origin.

Or - they can get in line and wait their to become US citizens.

Unless you are willing to spend YOUR MONEY to help them. lol

Equality for all - special privileges for nobody
G l o r i A

Phoenix, AZ

#7 Mar 3, 2012
teddyr4me wrote:
'I don't feel like I'm doing my potential' Does anybody see anything wrong with this statement? DOING my potential???? Just this statement alone leads me to ponder what kind of grades did the other students make, and who taught the English classes. It's no wonder that we are lagging behind other countries.
"Doing my potential..."

Is Rico from East LA teaching this class? lol lol

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#8 Mar 3, 2012
G l o r i A wrote:
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We have plenty of American students who will strengthen the country. We have an obligation to THEM - not third world invaders with sob stories.
I didn't say he should be given anything.

But he should be eligible to enter contracts and apply loans (that he will have to pay back) or scholarships (which are not government handouts).

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

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#9 Mar 3, 2012
libertarian4321 wrote:
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I didn't say he should be given anything.
But he should be eligible to enter contracts and apply loans (that he will have to pay back) or scholarships (which are not government handouts).
Not before an American...not now, not ever.

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#10 Mar 3, 2012
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Not before an American...not now, not ever.
What are you talking about? Any American who wants to can apply for a loan.
G l o r i A

Phoenix, AZ

#11 Mar 3, 2012
libertarian4321 wrote:
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What are you talking about? Any American who wants to can apply for a loan.
The key word is AMERICAN.

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#12 Mar 3, 2012
libertarian4321 wrote:
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What are you talking about? Any American who wants to can apply for a loan.
That's the way it should be...period.

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#13 Mar 3, 2012
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>That's the way it should be...period.
The point is, allowing this kid to apply for a loan will do nothing to "hurt" Americans.

So what's the big deal?
G l o r i A

Phoenix, AZ

#14 Mar 3, 2012
Repatriate Diego and his tribe to their alien homeland

Diego can take his turn in line to become a US Citizen.

Diego can apply for a schloarship

What is so difficult about that?

Equality for all - special privileges for nobody

“Conservatism is a Disease.”

Since: Nov 11

Lake Los Angeles, CA

#15 Mar 3, 2012
G l o r i A wrote:
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"Doing my potential..."
Is Rico from East LA teaching this class? lol lol
Leave teddyr4me alone you troll.
G l o r i A

Phoenix, AZ

#16 Mar 3, 2012
libertarian4321 wrote:
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The point is, allowing this kid to apply for a loan will do nothing to "hurt" Americans.
So what's the big deal?
Their are millions of kids inhis place.

If all of them apply for a loan, it will deprive legal and lawful AMERICANS of that loan.

How much do you profit from the labor of these people?

“Conservatism is a Disease.”

Since: Nov 11

Lake Los Angeles, CA

#17 Mar 3, 2012
G l o r i A wrote:
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The key word is AMERICAN.
Then this girl qualifies under the definition of American.

American |&#601;&#712;merik &#601;n|
adjective

of, relating to, or characteristic of the United States or its inhabitants : the election of a new American president.
relating to or denoting the continents of America : the American continent south of the tropic of Cancer.

noun
1 a native or citizen of the United States.
[usu. with adj.] a native or inhabitant of any of the countries of North, South, or Central America.
2 the English language as it is used in the United States; American English.

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#19 Mar 3, 2012
libertarian4321 wrote:
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The point is, allowing this kid to apply for a loan will do nothing to "hurt" Americans.
So what's the big deal?
Maybe because there is just so much money to lend? You are saying that he should be able to apply for grants and student loans when kids that are Americans are having trouble getting them now because of the volume of requests? No,he should go back to his country and have them pay his way.What is there to say that he won't go back home AFTER he gets his degree and "thumbs" his nose at the banks and the AMERICA taxpayers? It has happened many-many times before. IE: Pick his up and deport him NOW! What is it about the word ILLEGAL that some people don't understand?

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#20 Mar 3, 2012
pigpen911 wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe because there is just so much money to lend? You are saying that he should be able to apply for grants and student loans when kids that are Americans are having trouble getting them now because of the volume of requests? No,he should go back to his country and have them pay his way.What is there to say that he won't go back home AFTER he gets his degree and "thumbs" his nose at the banks and the AMERICA taxpayers? It has happened many-many times before. IE: Pick his up and deport him NOW! What is it about the word ILLEGAL that some people don't understand?
I didn't say anything about "taxpayers" funding him. I'm against ALL taxpayer funded loans- including those to American born students.

However, he should be allowed to apply for other loans (through banks) and scholarships (through a wide variety of sources), just like anyone else.

This kid has lived essentially his entire life in the USA. He has no connection to the land of his birth- I doubt he even remembers living there. He'd have no reason to go there- with a Cornell engineering degree, he'd probably stay in the USA and rake in big paychecks and pay a lot of taxes.

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#21 Mar 3, 2012
libertarian4321 wrote:
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I didn't say anything about "taxpayers" funding him. I'm against ALL taxpayer funded loans- including those to American born students.
However, he should be allowed to apply for other loans (through banks) and scholarships (through a wide variety of sources), just like anyone else.
This kid has lived essentially his entire life in the USA. He has no connection to the land of his birth- I doubt he even remembers living there. He'd have no reason to go there- with a Cornell engineering degree, he'd probably stay in the USA and rake in big paychecks and pay a lot of taxes.
You must have been of of class the day Obama took over the student loans. Student loans are all insured by the goverment,you know,the taxpayers.Again,if he wasn't born here or came here thru the proper way,he should be deported ASAP.

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