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U.S. Dept. of Justice Tells Ark. University to Allow Transwoman to Use Bathroom

There are 35 comments on the EDGE story from May 25, 2012, titled U.S. Dept. of Justice Tells Ark. University to Allow Transwoman to Use Bathroom. In it, EDGE reports that:

A transgender student from the University of Arkansas at Ft. Smith is now allowed to use the school's women's bathrooms after the Department of Justice sent a letter to the college telling officials to revise their policy, Campus Reform reported.

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“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#1 May 25, 2012
Now this is a win for equal rights. Bigots keep pushing, and we'll just fix the laws.
J Marc

Savannah, GA

#2 May 25, 2012
Ah yes, but we are still faced with fixing the bigots!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#3 May 25, 2012
J Marc wrote:
Ah yes, but we are still faced with fixing the bigots!
Bigots often lose interest in people they cannot legally hate. I really don't like admitting that because it justifies hate crimes and it's an embarrassment to the universe that the human species needs such laws. But after the GLBT get their equality, the only thing left for them to hate is non-human things ... LOL They'll become aquaphobic next, just watch.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#4 May 25, 2012
Yes,the bigots will always be 'blowing their horns.'However,there is one thing they cannot deny;most trans women are very very pretty.I wish I looked like her!WOW.Honestly,I would have no problem at all sleeping with a T-Woman.I have always considered myself straight;however,I must confess,I am really BI.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#5 May 26, 2012
Well, If I'm ever out and stopped and detained for using the ladies room, My next act will be to place a call to the DOJ (Dept of Justice) And you are correct Steph, She is pretty.
Regards, Terri

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#6 May 26, 2012
STEPHMAR wrote:
Yes,the bigots will always be 'blowing their horns.'However,there is one thing they cannot deny;most trans women are very very pretty.I wish I looked like her!WOW.Honestly,I would have no problem at all sleeping with a T-Woman.I have always considered myself straight;however,I must confess,I am really BI.
I wish I was trans, the majority are so beautiful. Even the drag queens can put most of us to shame. Of all of them, I'd wager no more than one in five trans* can even be easy to pick out.
Gump

Enterprise, AL

#7 May 26, 2012
TerryE wrote:
Well, If I'm ever out and stopped and detained for using the ladies room, My next act will be to place a call to the DOJ (Dept of Justice) And you are correct Steph, She is pretty.
Regards, Terri
You have the bar set rather low.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/321444/28/Tr...

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#8 May 26, 2012
Dear K.K. Here's some sites to peruse. Lynnconway.com Donnarose.com
Donnamilo.com Zoebrain.com and take a look at this, Capt. Jan Hamilton and Drbecky.

You're wrong about wishing you were "Trans". I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I doubt if you've ever felt so misfitted in life that you wanted to commit suicide. We do!
Regards, Terri
KittenKoder wrote:
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I wish I was trans, the majority are so beautiful. Even the drag queens can put most of us to shame. Of all of them, I'd wager no more than one in five trans* can even be easy to pick out.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#9 May 26, 2012
TerryE wrote:
Dear K.K. Here's some sites to peruse. Lynnconway.com Donnarose.com
Donnamilo.com Zoebrain.com and take a look at this, Capt. Jan Hamilton and Drbecky.
You're wrong about wishing you were "Trans". I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I doubt if you've ever felt so misfitted in life that you wanted to commit suicide. We do!
Regards, Terri
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My point was not about the problems they face, I was merely addressing the cosmetic appeal of their appearance. The fact that they have to go through so much suffering because of the bigotry is bad, and wrong, and something I have always fought against. But many of them are beautiful in spite of how people stereotype them.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#10 May 26, 2012
Errata, Zoebrain should be AEBrain Sorry about that!
Terri
TerryE wrote:
Dear K.K. Here's some sites to peruse. Lynnconway.com Donnarose.com
Donnamilo.com Zoebrain.com and take a look at this, Capt. Jan Hamilton and Drbecky.
You're wrong about wishing you were "Trans". I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I doubt if you've ever felt so misfitted in life that you wanted to commit suicide. We do!
Regards, Terri
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Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#11 May 26, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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I wish I was trans, the majority are so beautiful. Even the drag queens can put most of us to shame. Of all of them, I'd wager no more than one in five trans* can even be easy to pick out.
Yes,most trans-women are very beautiful with excellent feminine 'pass-ability.'However,this is because most women are created this way;and,like it or not,WE ARE WOMEN.THIS fact is still very difficult for most men and women to understand.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#12 May 27, 2012
STEPHMAR wrote:
<quoted text>Yes,most trans-women are very beautiful with excellent feminine 'pass-ability.'However,this is because most women are created this way;and,like it or not,WE ARE WOMEN.THIS fact is still very difficult for most men and women to understand.
Yeah, that part annoys me. When I was in the shelters, I was homeless for a few years, the non-trans* women would always talk behind the back of the ones they knew were trans. The things they said made me embarrassed to be genetic female. I wound up telling a lot of them to shut up. Of course when I did that finally, a few other women did as well. Seems good attitudes do spread faster than bad ones. ;)

Probably why a lot of lesbians kept taking me out for beers too. But I can't say. It was a bit of a blur at times.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#13 May 27, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yeah, that part annoys me. When I was in the shelters, I was homeless for a few years, the non-trans* women would always talk behind the back of the ones they knew were trans. The things they said made me embarrassed to be genetic female. I wound up telling a lot of them to shut up. Of course when I did that finally, a few other women did as well. Seems good attitudes do spread faster than bad ones. ;)
Probably why a lot of lesbians kept taking me out for beers too. But I can't say. It was a bit of a blur at times.
"Genetic females,"like most other females, all have a 'streak'of jealousy.T-women,today,are particularly susceptible to female jealousy because most are very pretty;and, all T-women have a longer shelf-life than all other women combined.This is a fact.Straight men,in my opinion,will come around to accepting T-women;and,so will all other women because we are all women regardless of jealousy and we tend to like those who are like us.It will happen.Personally,I am BI.I like women;and,I "adore"{with some reservations}men.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#14 May 27, 2012
STEPHMAR wrote:
<quoted text>"Genetic females,"like most other females, all have a 'streak'of jealousy.T-women,today,are particularly susceptible to female jealousy because most are very pretty;and, all T-women have a longer shelf-life than all other women combined.This is a fact.Straight men,in my opinion,will come around to accepting T-women;and,so will all other women because we are all women regardless of jealousy and we tend to like those who are like us.It will happen.Personally,I am BI.I like women;and,I "adore"{with some reservations}men.
Well, if you want my side of the matter, I find the entire notion of gender completely archaic anyway. In the US though people are still holding to the archaic notions though so meh. Many other cultures actually hold androgyny to be above all others, asexuality isn't even a shock to people in Japan from what I've seen, to them it's perfectly normal, here in the US even gay and trans people have a difficult time wrapping their heads around it, but at least gay and trans people don't accuse us of lying about it, or pull out the tired old "you just haven't met the right ... yet." LOL

When you get to the biological level, under the skin, there is little difference between the genetic genders, so little in fact that we may soon be able to actually reconfigure the genitals into working versions of their diametrically opposite ones. Maybe even alter the genes to the desired gender as well. As long as we can keep these bigots from messing with scientific advances, I'd say maybe 10 years until complete gender alteration is possible.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#15 May 27, 2012
Straight men already do. at least most of them. And I'm not referring to "admirers" or trannychasers! I go to public places and I don't pass(I don't care). Many times I have men hold doors for me.(I want to melt) and other small courtesies. I get very few hard looks. And I mean very few! I get more hard looks from the Gays down in New Hope than I do in a Flea Market or while shopping at Bottom Dollar.
STEPHMAR wrote:
<quoted text>"Genetic females,"like most other females, all have a 'streak'of jealousy.T-women,today,are particularly susceptible to female jealousy because most are very pretty;and, all T-women have a longer shelf-life than all other women combined.This is a fact.Straight men,in my opinion,will come around to accepting T-women;and,so will all other women because we are all women regardless of jealousy and we tend to like those who are like us.It will happen.Personally,I am BI.I like women;and,I "adore"{with some reservations}men.
Bringmedinner

San Jose, CA

#16 May 27, 2012
Has anyone noticed, that the more any community accepts, or is emotionally neutral to particular expressions of extreme minorities outside the norm, the more extreme the behavior of emotionally struggling minorities becomes? For instance... as piercings became more accepted in our culture, the emotionally struggling fringes (increasingly present amongst maturing youth in a crumbling culture) will get more piercings, or piercing in stranger places. They'll have rings and studs all over their faces, in their lips and tongues, through their noses and ears... simply to challenge the levels at which they'll finally achieve some type of response. Then, their are those whose embrace of extremes is more mental. They try to tell the culture, that some person walking around with enough hardware in their cheeks and foreheads to cause interruption in the earth's magnetic field is the normal ones that everyone else should accept without reservation. The same type of mental, or physical lunacy belongs in a mental hospital, but to them everyone else is crippled and simply don't understand the specialness of a human culture constantly trying to make everything more extreme by having everyone run around like a bunch of loons. Usually a maturation process replaces such madness.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#17 May 27, 2012
I hate to be contrary, but there is less than two percent of Genetic difference between man and chimpanzees. However, that two percent can account for much more than the numbers suggest. I have no problem with the concept of "Gender". As long as I'm the correct one!
Regards, Terri
KittenKoder wrote:
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When you get to the biological level, under the skin, there is little difference between the genetic genders, so little in fact that we may soon be able to actually reconfigure the genitals into working versions of their diametrically opposite ones. Maybe even alter the genes to the desired gender as well. As long as we can keep these bigots from messing with scientific advances, I'd say maybe 10 years until complete gender alteration is possible.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#18 May 27, 2012
Bringmedinner wrote:
Has anyone noticed, that the more any community accepts, or is emotionally neutral to particular expressions of extreme minorities outside the norm, the more extreme the behavior of emotionally struggling minorities becomes? For instance... as piercings became more accepted in our culture, the emotionally struggling fringes (increasingly present amongst maturing youth in a crumbling culture) will get more piercings, or piercing in stranger places. They'll have rings and studs all over their faces, in their lips and tongues, through their noses and ears... simply to challenge the levels at which they'll finally achieve some type of response. Then, their are those whose embrace of extremes is more mental. They try to tell the culture, that some person walking around with enough hardware in their cheeks and foreheads to cause interruption in the earth's magnetic field is the normal ones that everyone else should accept without reservation. The same type of mental, or physical lunacy belongs in a mental hospital, but to them everyone else is crippled and simply don't understand the specialness of a human culture constantly trying to make everything more extreme by having everyone run around like a bunch of loons. Usually a maturation process replaces such madness.
Um, actually not even close to reality. Piercings have actually gone down in popularity, the ones with extreme piercings are often doing so because of religious or this tribal fad that's also becoming less popular now. However, piercing is not really that extreme today compared to several hundred years ago, it's also a lot safer. Are you browsing fetish sites again? Those are a poor source of news, they'll completely skew your world view.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#19 May 27, 2012
TerryE wrote:
I hate to be contrary, but there is less than two percent of Genetic difference between man and chimpanzees. However, that two percent can account for much more than the numbers suggest. I have no problem with the concept of "Gender". As long as I'm the correct one!
Regards, Terri
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I fail to see how this applies to my post.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#20 May 27, 2012
You're mixing stylish behavior with a physiological disposition. Most TSes don't bother with trying to be attention getting with bizarre body mods. We just want to be regarded as the women we are inside. Transexuality does exist! Hundred of years and investigations prove this. Jesus mentions this in Matthew 19:12 (The third type of Eunuch). The question is, what are we going to do about it? Sure you could lock us up at taxpayer expense, to live out our lives in a miserable institution, or you can leave us alone. To do what we feel compelled to do. TSes are non violent. We are very intelligent and good looking. We give more to society than we take. For more, go to Lynnconway.com
Regards, Terri
Bringmedinner wrote:
Has anyone noticed, that the more any community accepts, or is emotionally neutral to particular expressions of extreme minorities outside the norm, the more extreme the behavior of emotionally struggling minorities becomes? For instance... as piercings became more accepted in our culture, the emotionally struggling fringes (increasingly present amongst maturing youth in a crumbling culture) will get more piercings, or piercing in stranger places. They'll have rings and studs all over their faces, in their lips and tongues, through their noses and ears... simply to challenge the levels at which they'll finally achieve some type of response. Then, their are those whose embrace of extremes is more mental. They try to tell the culture, that some person walking around with enough hardware in their cheeks and foreheads to cause interruption in the earth's magnetic field is the normal ones that everyone else should accept without reservation. The same type of mental, or physical lunacy belongs in a mental hospital, but to them everyone else is crippled and simply don't understand the specialness of a human culture constantly trying to make everything more extreme by having everyone run around like a bunch of loons. Usually a maturation process replaces such madness.

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