Dark Clouds Await Anthropogenic Global Warmers

Feb 6, 2013 Full story: Examiner.com 24

Anthropogenic global warmers have dug in. They have to be right. They allege increasing carbon dioxide is the perpetrator, is responsible for all AGW , and has been proven countless times.

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Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#21 Feb 17, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
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Here's the published translation.
http://www.thegwpf.org/ipcc-official-climate-...
Ottmar Edenhofer is an economist expressing his personal view that the global environmen¬tal mess we have made will now have to be fixed via economic policy.

Effectively by keeping more CO2 in the ground, and looking for alternative offsets this would operate against the oil and coal companies to effect economic policy.

Here is the full context

Edenhofer: Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization. The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War. Why? Because we have 11,000 gigatons of carbon in the coal reserves in the soil under our feet and we must emit only 400 gigatons in the atmosphere if we want to keep the 2-degree target. 11 000 to 400-there is no getting around the fact that most of the fossil reserves must remain in the soil.

NZZ: De facto, this means an expropriation of the countries with natural resources. This leads to a very different development from that which has been triggered by development policy.

Edenhofer: First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiast¬ic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."

The right wing LOVES to post this as proof there is a conspiracy theory.
PHD

Overton, TX

#22 Feb 18, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ottmar Edenhofer is an economist expressing his personal view that the global environmen¬tal mess we have made will now have to be fixed via economic policy.
Effectively by keeping more CO2 in the ground, and looking for alternative offsets this would operate against the oil and coal companies to effect economic policy.
Here is the full context
Edenhofer: Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization. The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War. Why? Because we have 11,000 gigatons of carbon in the coal reserves in the soil under our feet and we must emit only 400 gigatons in the atmosphere if we want to keep the 2-degree target. 11 000 to 400-there is no getting around the fact that most of the fossil reserves must remain in the soil.
NZZ: De facto, this means an expropriation of the countries with natural resources. This leads to a very different development from that which has been triggered by development policy.
Edenhofer: First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiast¬ic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."
The right wing LOVES to post this as proof there is a conspiracy theory.
You can’t even be original Commander TROLL!!!! See that Bull S. degree again got you walloped and in the crapper. That Ha HA you hear is the void between your ears called an echo.
Your wrong you don't have a character to insult.You can’t even be original Commander TROLL!!!! See that Bull S. degree again got you walloped and in the crapper. That Ha HA you hear is the void between your ears called an echo.
Your wrong you don't have a character to insult.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#24 Feb 18, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ottmar Edenhofer is an economist expressing his personal view that the global environmen¬tal mess we have made will now have to be fixed via economic policy.
Effectively by keeping more CO2 in the ground, and looking for alternative offsets this would operate against the oil and coal companies to effect economic policy.
Here is the full context
Edenhofer: Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization. The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War. Why? Because we have 11,000 gigatons of carbon in the coal reserves in the soil under our feet and we must emit only 400 gigatons in the atmosphere if we want to keep the 2-degree target. 11 000 to 400-there is no getting around the fact that most of the fossil reserves must remain in the soil.
NZZ: De facto, this means an expropriation of the countries with natural resources. This leads to a very different development from that which has been triggered by development policy.
Edenhofer: First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiast¬ic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."
The right wing LOVES to post this as proof there is a conspiracy theory.
He said what he said.

Edenhofer: First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiast¬ic about this. ONE HAS TO FREE ONESELF FROM THE ILLUSION THAT INTERNATIONAL CLIMATE POLICY IS ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#25 Feb 18, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
He said what he said.
Edenhofer: First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiast¬ic about this. ONE HAS TO FREE ONESELF FROM THE ILLUSION THAT INTERNATIONAL CLIMATE POLICY IS ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."
We all share the air FF. And face it, the developed countries did expropriate the air for our factories first. We probably should pay more to clean it back up.

You think the poor countries should pay for it, when we made a large part of the mess. Yes, I think our foreign aid should include us figuring out the technology to improve air quality.

Is that terrible for you?

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