Oklahoma voters approve ban on Sharia...

Oklahoma voters approve ban on Sharia law

There are 28 comments on the Salon story from Nov 2, 2010, titled Oklahoma voters approve ban on Sharia law. In it, Salon reports that:

A ban on U.S. courts considering Sharia law passed overwhelmingly in Oklahoma today.

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Jaysonrex

So Paulo, Brazil

#1 Nov 3, 2010
Whether the law makes any sense or not is frankly beside the point. But the idea itself, asking voters to approve a ban on something that does not exist, is (at best) stupid.

Sharia law is applied in Muslim countries only, since there is no separation between state and religion where Islam reigns supreme. This has nothing to do with U.S. or any other non-Muslim nation.

As expected, some antisemites took advantage of this opening to put in their two bits of venom against the Jews. As long as these demented haters keep their heads low, no problem. When they try to raise it above ground level, then it should be chopped off without hesitation.

Back to Sharia - as long as Muslims will be Muslims, they will follow the Sharia and live in the 7th century. Women slavery, including unbelievable abuses of all kinds, is part of their holy heritage, just like Jihad and other strange practices. But then this is the price they have to pay for being Muslims, rather than convert to another religion say, Judaism or even Christianity.

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#2 Nov 3, 2010
Jaysonrex wrote:
Sharia law is applied in Muslim countries only, since there is no separation between state and religion where Islam reigns supreme. This has nothing to do with U.S. or any other non-Muslim nation.
You really should do a little research, you'd learn that you're mistaken...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/fait...

'Revealed: UKs first official sharia courts
Abul Taher

ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.

The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.'

Since: May 08

Germany

#3 Nov 3, 2010
Trisha wrote:
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You really should do a little research, you'd learn that you're mistaken...
Exactly!

Oklahoma has taken a preventive step--BRAVO!

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#4 Nov 3, 2010
Jaysonrex wrote:
Whether the law makes any sense or not is frankly beside the point. But the idea itself, asking voters to approve a ban on something that does not exist, is (at best) stupid.
Sharia law is applied in Muslim countries only,.........
Do you live in a cave?
There are Sharia courts in America, Canada, and England.
Those are the ones I know of. I'm sure there are many others.
SALAH AH DIN YUSSIF AYYUB

Cleveland, OH

#5 Nov 3, 2010
Wilberhum wrote:
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Do you live in a cave?
There are Sharia courts in America, Canada, and England.
Those are the ones I know of. I'm sure there are many others.
what are the names of these shariah courts and where in the state law does it allow it?

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#6 Nov 3, 2010
SALAH AH DIN YUSSIF AYYUB wrote:
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what are the names of these shariah courts and where in the state law does it allow it?
God your stupid. The law doesn't allow it. The Law doesn't stop it.

That is why Oklahoma is so progressive in it's ban.
SALAH AH DIN YUSSIF AYYUB

Cleveland, OH

#7 Nov 3, 2010
Wilberhum wrote:
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God your stupid. The law doesn't allow it. The Law doesn't stop it.
That is why Oklahoma is so progressive in it's ban.
a simple question and suddenly you become defensive and insluting?where are the names of these courts?if you had any sense you'd know since the law doesn't recognize it then it was never going to be enforced by the state law.what can the state of OK do if two Muslims go to a mosque to decide a situation according to sharia?the same way polygomy is banned but the state law has no say if a man marries more than one wife religiously.if you are going to throw insults then atleast spell things right and make sure you know what you are talking about.it's you're not your.which God is a so called "atheist" like you referring to?

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#8 Nov 3, 2010
SALAH AH DIN YUSSIF AYYUB wrote:
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a simple question and suddenly you become defensive and insluting?where are the names of these courts?if you had any sense you'd know since the law doesn't recognize it then it was never going to be enforced by the state law.what can the state of OK do if two Muslims go to a mosque to decide a situation according to sharia?the same way polygomy is banned but the state law has no say if a man marries more than one wife religiously.if you are going to throw insults then atleast spell things right and make sure you know what you are talking about.it's you're not your.which God is a so called "atheist" like you referring to?
Poor little "SALAH AH DIN YUSSIF AYYUB" can't even figure out the obvious.
I think you are stalking me.
ALLAHahahahahaha hahahhah

Chicago, IL

#9 Nov 3, 2010
Good for Oklahomans ! Islam , its Allah(may sh1t be upon him ) and Mu-Ham-Mad are loosing ground everywhere !
SALAH AH DIN YUSSIF AYYUB

Cleveland, OH

#10 Nov 3, 2010
Wilberhum wrote:
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Poor little "SALAH AH DIN YUSSIF AYYUB" can't even figure out the obvious.
I think you are stalking me.
this is the "answer" I keep getting from you.if I may ask,are you preprogrammed?am I jamming your brain?
Your statement was there are sharia courts in US,Canada.. and my question was what are the names and where are they located?jester,there is no "obvious" in this because you have provided no answer.you failed to challenge my statement about doing a religious ruling or practicing polygomy.how do you take a "progressive" step against sharia when it was never there?is polygomy abolished?yes,can the law stop any from marying another in a religious term?no.apply that simple logic to the OK law and you'd realize all you are only happy because much of your life is a sad pathetic one.you keep giving me this "salah can't see the obvious" answer and soon you will lose the goon squad that follows you.I'm not stalking you,I simply Like to question people who post the dumbest most ridiculous statements chief.

Since: Oct 06

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#11 Nov 3, 2010
Marie-Luise wrote:
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Exactly!
Oklahoma has taken a preventive step--BRAVO!
:)

Next step, Kansas!
SALAH AH DIN YUSSIF AYYUB

Cleveland, OH

#12 Nov 3, 2010
Trisha wrote:
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:)
Next step, Kansas!
and then it's a ban of the tooth fairy and Santa claus.

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#13 Nov 3, 2010
SALAH AH DIN YUSSIF AYYUB wrote:
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and then it's a ban of the tooth fairy and Santa claus.
If there is no real Muslim desire and effort to control and take power, then you should not be concerned about our 'paranoia'. This law doesn't effect you if you're not trying to gain power or control, now does it?

So you can sleep peacefully and just forget about us 'crazies'.

See ya.....
ALLAHahahahahaha hahahhah

Chicago, IL

#14 Nov 4, 2010
Trisha wrote:
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:)
Next step, Kansas!
and than NY!

Since: May 08

Germany

#15 Nov 4, 2010
Trisha wrote:
Next step, Kansas!
Good news, Trisha!
Jaysonrex

So Paulo, Brazil

#16 Nov 4, 2010
Trisha wrote:
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You really should do a little research, you'd learn that you're mistaken...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/fait...
'Revealed: UKs first official sharia courts
Abul Taher
ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.
The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.'
Trisha, I might be wrong but in my professional understanding the so-called Sharia Courts are nothing more than what is known in Western Jurisprudence as Arbitral Tribunal.

Both parties must freely agree to submit a dispute to a person named arbiter (or a committee of three) who decides, in lieu of a judge (thus avoiding high costs and especially lengthy delays), how the dispute should be solved.

The litigants can use the Sharia, or the Halakha (Jewish Laws) or the Hindus percepts or their moral principles in order to decide the case. The arbiter can be a Muslim jurist, a Jewish Rabbi, a non-religious person, etc. The parties are bound by law to accept the decision of the arbiter. In some specific cases, such as divorce or separation, it is common to include in the "prenuptial agreement" to desired terms that can thus be easily enforced.

I am sure this short explanation will be helpful to many readers, even if you don't personally agree with it, for reasons of your own.

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#17 Nov 4, 2010
Jaysonrex
"Both parties must freely agree to submit a dispute to a person named arbiter (or a committee of three) who decides, in lieu of a judge (thus avoiding high costs and especially lengthy delays), how the dispute should be solved."

Do you assume that Muslim women 'Freely Agree' Sharia court where she will not be treated equally?
george whyte

Blackburn, UK

#18 Nov 4, 2010
Speaking of sharia:

Islam's 1400 Years of Brutal Black Slavery:

"This content may contain material flagged by YouTube's user community that may be inappropriate for some users."

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age...

I watched it here:
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/04/1...

And there is no blood and gore - just history. It has been flagged simply for its truth...
bmz

San Diego, CA

#19 Nov 4, 2010
Jaysonrex wrote:
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Trisha, I might be wrong but in my professional understanding the so-called Sharia Courts are nothing more than what is known in Western Jurisprudence as Arbitral Tribunal.
Both parties must freely agree to submit a dispute to a person named arbiter (or a committee of three) who decides, in lieu of a judge (thus avoiding high costs and especially lengthy delays), how the dispute should be solved.
The litigants can use the Sharia, or the Halakha (Jewish Laws) or the Hindus percepts or their moral principles in order to decide the case. The arbiter can be a Muslim jurist, a Jewish Rabbi, a non-religious person, etc. The parties are bound by law to accept the decision of the arbiter. In some specific cases, such as divorce or separation, it is common to include in the "prenuptial agreement" to desired terms that can thus be easily enforced.
I am sure this short explanation will be helpful to many readers, even if you don't personally agree with it, for reasons of your own.
try sharia law where muslims cannot extricate himself out of islam unless some goon bastard decide his fate for him. that alone is enough to f. the next muslim suggesting why muslims need to have sharia law.

crime

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#20 Nov 4, 2010
bmz wrote:
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try sharia law where muslims cannot extricate himself out of islam unless some goon bastard decide his fate for him. that alone is enough to f. the next muslim suggesting why muslims need to have sharia law.
Correct, in the Islamic controlled lands, it is not just a voluntary thing between parties...in those unfortunate lands it is the law and its interpretations are strictly and literally enforced in the most harshest forms.

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