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New Jersey towns cannot ban sex offenders from living near schools, parks, or other places where children gather, a state appeals court ruled on Tuesday.

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Since: May 08

United States

#42 Jul 17, 2008
OBITUARY OF THE LATE MR. COMMON SENSE

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:

Knowing when to come in out of the rain
Why the early bird gets the worm
Life isn't always fair
Maybe it was my fault

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies:

Don't spend more than you can earn

And reliable strategies:

Adults, not children, are in charge

His health began to deteriorate when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer Tylenol, sun lotion or a band-aid to a student but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten C ommandments became contraband, churches became businesses and criminals received better treatment than their victims.

Common Sense took a beating when it became punishable for you to defend yourself from a burglar in your own home but the burglar could sue you for assault.

He began to lose ground rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6 -year- old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live.

Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his Daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.

He is survived by his 3 stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, Someone Else Is To blame, and I'm A Victim.

Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone....
Nephilim

Altadena, CA

#43 Jul 17, 2008
I did not realise the aclu was behind the changes in California that gave 10+ million illegal aliens in California wellfare, medical benefits etc. Over $9 billion a year we spend on people who should not be here thanks to the aclu. Just another reason to fight the aclu.
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#44 Jul 17, 2008
Nephilim wrote:
I did not realise the aclu was behind the changes in California that gave 10+ million illegal aliens in California wellfare, medical benefits etc. Over $9 billion a year we spend on people who should not be here thanks to the aclu. Just another reason to fight the aclu.
Cite? And their grounds were....what?

You don't even know, do you?
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#45 Jul 17, 2008
RUN_FORREST_RUN wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps the bottom line here (in my way of thinking) is that more and more, children seem to be more of a nuisance, than a blessing.
That isn't how I personally feel about children, that is the way I see children being treated in our society.
Abortion, TV shows on mainstream networks that are abandoning family values in favor of more adult programming, the ACLU letting scum - er - pedophiles back into neighbourhoods, and so on.
We are the adults. We are supposed to protect our children until they are old enough to fend for themselves (not only physically, but teaching them wisdom and good morals as well).
Rather than treating these pedophiles with "kid gloves" (WOW! that was an amazing choice of words), we should be EXTREMELY punitive on them with outrageously long jail time.
If the ACLU would get out of the way of people's happiness, this would expedite things greatly.
because it is the ACLU that decides the cases and not the court....hey wait a minute! That's not quite how it is, is it?

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#46 Jul 17, 2008
No Fear 1 wrote:
OBITUARY OF THE LATE MR. COMMON SENSE
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:
Knowing when to come in out of the rain
Why the early bird gets the worm
Life isn't always fair
Maybe it was my fault
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies:
Don't spend more than you can earn
And reliable strategies:
Adults, not children, are in charge
His health began to deteriorate when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer Tylenol, sun lotion or a band-aid to a student but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten C ommandments became contraband, churches became businesses and criminals received better treatment than their victims.
Common Sense took a beating when it became punishable for you to defend yourself from a burglar in your own home but the burglar could sue you for assault.
He began to lose ground rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6 -year- old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
Common Sense finally gave up the will to live.
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his Daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.
He is survived by his 3 stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, Someone Else Is To blame, and I'm A Victim.
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone....
Sure, there have been so many changes since I was a young girl, one that I saw personally happen, and was so happy to see, was that something was finally done about segregation!
Some changes may, to many, have gone to the extreme the other way, like the mouthwash, not being able to have even some Tylenol at school, etc., the spanking in school, I agree with that being gone, that is not a teacher's job, if a child or teen is that unruly, suspend them. The gun laws recently changed in my area, concerning the part brought out about someone breaking into your house and being able to defend yourself. Some changes take time, some take advantage of a change to the extreme, not that the original change in law was bad.
I still believe in equal rights for all. My mother was born in the year 1920, when women got the right to vote. Women take the right to vote for granted now, sure had to be fought for though.

I value the Ten Commandments as much as anyone who believes in them and tries to keep them, however, they do not belong in public places, that is common sense.

I had several uncles and my own father, all WWII veterans, who learned firsthand from being in war, how valuable freedom for all really is.

I believe that "I know my rights" is part of common sense.

I have been told that the "wheels of justice turn slowly but surely", I believe this to be so. Change never comes easy, but if it is the right change, it will stay and grow.

Since: May 08

United States

#47 Jul 17, 2008
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, there have been so many changes since I was a young girl, one that I saw personally happen, and was so happy to see, was that something was finally done about segregation!
Some changes may, to many, have gone to the extreme the other way, like the mouthwash, not being able to have even some Tylenol at school, etc., the spanking in school, I agree with that being gone, that is not a teacher's job, if a child or teen is that unruly, suspend them. The gun laws recently changed in my area, concerning the part brought out about someone breaking into your house and being able to defend yourself. Some changes take time, some take advantage of a change to the extreme, not that the original change in law was bad.
I still believe in equal rights for all. My mother was born in the year 1920, when women got the right to vote. Women take the right to vote for granted now, sure had to be fought for though.
I value the Ten Commandments as much as anyone who believes in them and tries to keep them, however, they do not belong in public places, that is common sense.
I had several uncles and my own father, all WWII veterans, who learned firsthand from being in war, how valuable freedom for all really is.
I believe that "I know my rights" is part of common sense.
I have been told that the "wheels of justice turn slowly but surely", I believe this to be so. Change never comes easy, but if it is the right change, it will stay and grow.
I agree Nettiebelle! Good point about "I know my rights".
We can have common sense, but do we have the MEANS to insure our rights (justice) as individuals? For those that do not have the MEANS, the wheels of justice turn very slow.
Nephilim

Altadena, CA

#48 Jul 17, 2008
Bud wrote:
<quoted text>
Cite? And their grounds were....what?
You don't even know, do you?
It was in the youtube videos. You know I truly do not care what their grounds were. This state is going bankrupt and many places look like a third world crap hole. That people born here cannot get social services but someone who entered here illegaly does. That someone born here can die without medical care yet someone who sneaks in gets unlimited healthcare. That someone born here loses their home, but an illegal gets paid to be here. That our education system used to be in the top 10% nationaly and is now in the bottom 10%.

Scrtew the aclu and whatever excuse they may have. I truly do not care. The aclu must be stopped.
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#49 Jul 17, 2008
Youtube videos?

LOL!
"You know I truly don't care what the grounds were."

Yeah, we know.

U fail @ teh interweb.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#50 Jul 17, 2008
No Fear 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree Nettiebelle! Good point about "I know my rights".
We can have common sense, but do we have the MEANS to insure our rights (justice) as individuals? For those that do not have the MEANS, the wheels of justice turn very slow.
Do we have the means to insure our rights as individuals? Yes, we do, No Fear 1, part of each individual having the same rights is recognizing just that. Lots of people say we have equal rights, but do not really practice it. We, as individuals, even without having to use courts, laws, etc., can do so much to change and better our society ourselves.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#51 Jul 17, 2008
Bud wrote:
<quoted text>
You "know" they are not telling the whole truth because...
you presume it is "liberal spin." How convenient, it saves you the trouble of actually learning about the law.
I dont even know why I read your posts. You rarely make sense.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#52 Jul 17, 2008
Bud wrote:
So the judges are liberal activists that have ignored the law and held the opposite of what you, Kerdy, think the law is.
Well then it should be no trouble for you to get the opinion and show how the Court's reliance is misplaced, on whatever cases they cited to support the holding.
That's how this thing works, Kerdy, if you want to be taken seriously.
I repeat what I last posted.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#53 Jul 17, 2008
No Fear 1 wrote:
OBITUARY OF THE LATE MR. COMMON SENSE
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:
Knowing when to come in out of the rain
Why the early bird gets the worm
Life isn't always fair
Maybe it was my fault
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies:
Don't spend more than you can earn
And reliable strategies:
Adults, not children, are in charge
His health began to deteriorate when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer Tylenol, sun lotion or a band-aid to a student but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten C ommandments became contraband, churches became businesses and criminals received better treatment than their victims.
Common Sense took a beating when it became punishable for you to defend yourself from a burglar in your own home but the burglar could sue you for assault.
He began to lose ground rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6 -year- old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
Common Sense finally gave up the will to live.
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his Daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.
He is survived by his 3 stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, Someone Else Is To blame, and I'm A Victim.
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone....
Brilliant!

“You don't have legs, Lt. Dan!”

Since: Apr 08

Hometown in Alberta, Canada!

#54 Jul 17, 2008
No Fear 1 wrote:
OBITUARY OF THE LATE MR. COMMON SENSE
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.
He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:
Knowing when to come in out of the rain
Why the early bird gets the worm
Life isn't always fair
Maybe it was my fault
Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies:
Don't spend more than you can earn
And reliable strategies:
Adults, not children, are in charge
His health began to deteriorate when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer Tylenol, sun lotion or a band-aid to a student but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten C ommandments became contraband, churches became businesses and criminals received better treatment than their victims.
Common Sense took a beating when it became punishable for you to defend yourself from a burglar in your own home but the burglar could sue you for assault.
He began to lose ground rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6 -year- old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
Common Sense finally gave up the will to live.
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his Daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.
He is survived by his 3 stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, Someone Else Is To blame, and I'm A Victim.
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone....
Every once in a while I read these kinds of very excellent statements. I think it's correct to call it literature.

Is this a quote, or is this original to you?

Either way, it was inspired.
TheTimeIsNow

Saginaw, MI

#55 Jul 18, 2008
People who are really that much of a threat that they can't be allowed to live near children should just be left in prison, because residency requirements won't even do any good. All the person has to do is take a little drive. Residency requirements are a false sense of security.

Real pedophiles and rapists should be locked up for life. NO parole! NO probation! NO nothing! Life. I'd even support executing them if it wasn't for the possibility that an innocent person could be falsely convicted.

But horny teenagers shouldn't even be on the registry, at least not for the public to see (I assume the police have a registry for every conceivable crime). Will lines have to be drawn? Yes, absolutely.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#56 Jul 18, 2008
TheTimeIsNow wrote:
People who are really that much of a threat that they can't be allowed to live near children should just be left in prison,
I agree, but since that isnt going to happen......
TheTimeIsNow

Saginaw, MI

#57 Jul 18, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, but since that isnt going to happen......
Yes, I'm not saying get rid of the registry. Keep it for the Real pedophiles and for the rapists, but then give any future pedophiles and rapists a mandatory minimum of life without parole and then eventually the registry would become obsolete (as soon as offenders sentenced before my recommended changes in sentencing have died).
Michael Ejercito

Los Angeles, CA

#58 Jul 21, 2008
Bud wrote:
<quoted text>
I tend to agree...for actual pedophiles. But what about the 16 year old kid who has consensual sex with his 14 year old girlfriend?
Wouldn't they BOTH be guilty?
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#59 Jul 21, 2008
Michael Ejercito wrote:
<quoted text>
Wouldn't they BOTH be guilty?
Technically I suppose both could be charged with statutory rape, but lingering sexism in the system tends to skew things.

These kind of cases is why prosecutors have some discretion to not pursue a defendant. What would be the point?

“You don't have legs, Lt. Dan!”

Since: Apr 08

Hometown in Alberta, Canada!

#60 Jul 21, 2008
ACLU -

American Citizens' Lawsuits Undermined

“Maiden of Mayhem”

Since: May 08

OMFUG

#61 Jul 21, 2008
Bud wrote:
<quoted text>
Technically I suppose both could be charged with statutory rape, but lingering sexism in the system tends to skew things.
These kind of cases is why prosecutors have some discretion to not pursue a defendant. What would be the point?
I have to agree, why waste resources persuing charges against 2 kids having sex when there are actual pedophiles out there that need to be caught, tried and convicted.

In Canada the laws differ slightly, if there is under a 2 year age difference. So a 17 year old won't get charge if he/she are sexually active with their 16 year old partner for example.(16 is the age of consent here)

Unless the elder is in a position of authority, such as clergy, teacher, etc... those are special circumstances.

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