ADF offers to help U.S. Navy stand up...

ADF offers to help U.S. Navy stand up against ACLU

There are 38 comments on the www.alliancedefensefund.org story from Jul 12, 2008, titled ADF offers to help U.S. Navy stand up against ACLU . In it, www.alliancedefensefund.org reports that:

' Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund sent a letter to the U.S. Naval Academy Friday, offering free legal representation in the event the American Civil Liberties Union makes good on its threat to sue the ...

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#1 Jul 12, 2008
And we were told the ACLU is friendly to those of faith and their practices.

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

Since: Jun 08

Wilmington, DE

#2 Jul 12, 2008
>On May 2, the ACLU sent a letter to the U.S. Naval Academy, pressuring it to abandon its long-established, non-compulsory meal-time prayer.

You're lying again.

And the way to prove it is to demand that the Naval Academy - where, along with the Air Force Academy, all those female students are getting sexually assaulted all the time by xrist's brownshirt warriors in training - also have a pagan prayer before meals. And a Hindu prayer. And an Islamic call to prayer.

The government is not allowed to favor one particular religion over another, even if the right wing adherents of that particular cult - xstainity - are more rabid than those of other cults...or of decent religions, as the case may be.

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#3 Jul 13, 2008
writewingproxycontin wrote:
>On May 2, the ACLU sent a letter to the U.S. Naval Academy, pressuring it to abandon its long-established, non-compulsory meal-time prayer.
You're lying again.
And the way to prove it is to demand that the Naval Academy - where, along with the Air Force Academy, all those female students are getting sexually assaulted all the time by xrist's brownshirt warriors in training - also have a pagan prayer before meals. And a Hindu prayer. And an Islamic call to prayer.
The government is not allowed to favor one particular religion over another, even if the right wing adherents of that particular cult - xstainity - are more rabid than those of other cults...or of decent religions, as the case may be.
That "zing" sound you heard was the entire point going over your head. Nice try at being informed though. Didnt work, but nice try.

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#5 Jul 13, 2008
ALI wrote:
[17.9] Surely this Quran guides to that which is most upright and gives good news to the believers who do good that they shall have a great reward.
Hey slick. Seriously, stop spamming. No one is impressed with your ability to cut and paste. If you want to contribute to the conversation, then by all means, do so. Otherwise, stop.

“Maiden of Mayhem”

Since: May 08

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#6 Jul 13, 2008
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Hey slick. Seriously, stop spamming. No one is impressed with your ability to cut and paste. If you want to contribute to the conversation, then by all means, do so. Otherwise, stop.
don't waste your time Kerdy, it's a spambot and retaliating for Jesus Is' plethora of cut and paste posts in the Islam forum.

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#7 Jul 13, 2008
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don't waste your time Kerdy, it's a spambot and retaliating for Jesus Is' plethora of cut and paste posts in the Islam forum.
I dont do that. If there are people on that forum doing so, then they should also be reported. Its very annoying, to say the least.
Nephilim

Altadena, CA

#8 Jul 13, 2008
You have to be kidding me. Where is Bud? How can anyone claim the ACLU isn't attacking Christianity! Enough is enough. We need to let everyone know what the ACLU is doing.

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#10 Jul 13, 2008
bumping above the spammer....

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

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#11 Jul 13, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
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That "zing" sound you heard was the entire point going over your head. Nice try at being informed though. Didnt work, but nice try.
You're an awful big liar for such a loudmouth professed xstain. Go read my post again. All the facts you left out.

Now, when can the Naval Academy allow pagan and Hindu prayers at official functions?

You liar.
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#12 Jul 14, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
And we were told the ACLU is friendly to those of faith and their practices.
It is. That's why they have all those Free Exercise cases where they defend Christians. You know, those cases you pretend don't exist.

But the Establishment clause is what it is. The ACLU believes both the Free Exercise clause and the Establishment clause are necessary to safeguard religious liberty.

The ADF, on the other hand, ignores the Establishment clause and only believes in religious liberty for Christians - and no one else.
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#13 Jul 14, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
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That "zing" sound you heard was the entire point going over your head. Nice try at being informed though. Didnt work, but nice try.
You did not respond to his point.
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#14 Jul 14, 2008
Nephilim wrote:
You have to be kidding me. Where is Bud? How can anyone claim the ACLU isn't attacking Christianity! Enough is enough. We need to let everyone know what the ACLU is doing.
As long as you tell the truth about it, you won't have to worry about me.

But keep telling lies, and I will keep busting you on it.

All you have to do is to tell the truth. Is that too hard for you?
Nephilim

Altadena, CA

#15 Jul 14, 2008
Bud wrote:
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It is. That's why they have all those Free Exercise cases where they defend Christians. You know, those cases you pretend don't exist.
But the Establishment clause is what it is. The ACLU believes both the Free Exercise clause and the Establishment clause are necessary to safeguard religious liberty.
The ADF, on the other hand, ignores the Establishment clause and only believes in religious liberty for Christians - and no one else.
The ADF has only one cause. To stop the ACLU's persecution of Christians. That is whu they were founded and funded. Pretty sad someone had to do this. Even sadder that one of the spokespersons for the ACLU tries to fault them for protecting themselves. Typical diversion and lies.
Nephilim

Altadena, CA

#16 Jul 14, 2008
Bud wrote:
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As long as you tell the truth about it, you won't have to worry about me.
But keep telling lies, and I will keep busting you on it.
All you have to do is to tell the truth. Is that too hard for you?
Very funny Bud. You demanding truth. What a laugh.

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

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#17 Jul 14, 2008
Nephilim wrote:
<quoted text>The ADF has only one cause. To stop the ACLU's persecution of Christians. That is whu they were founded and funded. Pretty sad someone had to do this. Even sadder that one of the spokespersons for the ACLU tries to fault them for protecting themselves. Typical diversion and lies.
Liar. The US is not a Christian nation, despite you insanity on this and other points. The government may not favor one religion over another in its policies.

Xstain fundies want prayers at service academies, then other religions must be equally accommodated.

This is not "persecuting Christians," as the febrile hysterics claim, it is forbidding the government to privilege Christianity.

I know none of you talibangelicals can grasp or accept any of this, but if I get to call you names along with my fact filled arguments then it is all worthwhile, Jedediah.
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#18 Jul 15, 2008
Nephilim wrote:
<quoted text>Very funny Bud. You demanding truth. What a laugh.
It is certainly humorous that I never seem to be able to get any out of you.
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#19 Jul 15, 2008
Nephilim wrote:
<quoted text>The ADF has only one cause. To stop the ACLU's persecution of Christians. That is whu they were founded and funded. Pretty sad someone had to do this. Even sadder that one of the spokespersons for the ACLU tries to fault them for protecting themselves. Typical diversion and lies.
Then they are what they claim to be: defenders of only one segment of the population, and not defenders of constitutional rights per se.

Thank you for admitting that they act on prejudice and not on principle.

Sad, indeed. Tha ADF's existence is based on a desire to ensure the dominance of Christianity in spite of the Constitution of the United States.

You can't have it both ways - defending one half of religious liberty and ignoring the other is hypocrisy.
Nephilim

Altadena, CA

#20 Jul 15, 2008
Bud wrote:
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Then they are what they claim to be: defenders of only one segment of the population, and not defenders of constitutional rights per se.
Thank you for admitting that they act on prejudice and not on principle.
Sad, indeed. Tha ADF's existence is based on a desire to ensure the dominance of Christianity in spite of the Constitution of the United States.
You can't have it both ways - defending one half of religious liberty and ignoring the other is hypocrisy.
Defenders out of necessity due to the persecution of the ACLU. As usual you left that part out. Typical lawyer. Now you start up with a lie that it is about Christian dominance. Of course you offer no proof of this. Prince of lies lackey. POLL
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#21 Jul 15, 2008
There is no necessity except what ignorant and biased people like you create in their own minds.

That's what you get for not having critical thinking skills. I would blame your parents, if I were you.

Christian dominance in this country is a fact. Is it not the majority religion? I'm pretty sure it is.

The existence of the ADF, who promote ONE groups welfare and take a very incorrect and slanted interpretation of the First Amendment is my proof.

If I am wrong, then you should have no trouble showing my a case where the ADF defended the free exercise rights of non-Christians, or a case where they stood up for the Establishment clause, whether or not the religion in question was Christianity.

But you aren't going to be able to do that, are you?

If you had any sense you would have realized that you already lost this argument...
Bud

Tallahassee, FL

#22 Jul 15, 2008
Nephilim wrote:
<quoted text>Defenders out of necessity due to the persecution of the ACLU. As usual you left that part out. Typical lawyer. Now you start up with a lie that it is about Christian dominance. Of course you offer no proof of this. Prince of lies lackey. POLL
So, arguing in favor of the Constitution and the SCOTUS decisions over previous decades is persecution?

The majority (far and away) religion in this country is being persecuted? Am I hearing you right?

You are nuts, and none too bright.

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