Onward Christian Terrorists; Fighting Evil in the Obama Era

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Could it be sheer coincidence that the murderous attack on the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC on Wednesday by James W. von Brunn, an anti-Semitic Christian terrorist, occurred scarcely a week after an attack on a Wichita health clinic that performed abortions? Perhaps. Though it is also possible that these incidents, and a host of other threats in recent months, are the violent fringe of a new wave of religiously-motivated violence that might rival America’s Christian terrorism of the 1990s.

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“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#42 Jun 17, 2009
N2shotokai wrote:
<quoted text>The point you fail to see is people know that us Christians are just a small noisy group that is filled with hate. In the overall picture, people filled with hate are best just ignored on important subjects.
There, that's more better.

“Life Force One”

Since: Mar 09

The Spiritual Universe

#43 Jun 17, 2009
Who wrote:
Well it shows you the inability of the ungodly to discern between True Christians that would not do what these terrorists have done and others who are not Christians and would. But then Satan loves to accuse the brethren while keeping his in darkness and ignorance of the truth.
And you show your own inability to discern between true Christians and the vast majority of evil fakes who LOVE to arrogantly condemn, hate, and force their religion upon everyone.

And yo have also failed to discern that you have been led astray by the lies of the very ones you have been warned about. The ones who wear the cloak of Christian righteousness, to be as wolves in amongst the sheeple. Whispering their lies that keep you all in spiritual darkness so you will fail your judgment. All because you're too busy condemning all non-Christians, you don't even question the evil one's who are leading the church.

Since: Oct 08

Rantoul, IL

#44 Jun 21, 2009
I guess those 2 soldiers who were shot...didn't mean anything. Nor, other 2 attacks in the country that week.

“Religion is for stupid people”

Since: May 08

Anytown, USA

#45 Jun 21, 2009
Robert-2012 wrote:
I guess those 2 soldiers who were shot...didn't mean anything. Nor, other 2 attacks in the country that week.
Of course they do, but how are they relevant to your christian terrorists going around murdering people in this country?

Since: Oct 08

Rantoul, IL

#46 Jun 21, 2009
NoamChimpsky wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they do, but how are they relevant to your christian terrorists going around murdering people in this country?
LOL..going around the country. I guess we don't count the other religions anymore. Not PC.

So the guy went to church some 20 + years ago, and he is considered a christian. You consider him a christian. So who is stereotyping?

By the way, I thought it was "man-caused disasters."

Later :)
Bris

Lynn, MA

#47 Jun 21, 2009
N2shotokai wrote:
<quoted text>The point you fail to see is people know you are but a small noisy group that is filled with hate. In the overall picture, people filled with hate are best just ignored on important subjects.
People filled with love are best ignored on the same subjects. If law, policy, and court cases were decided by asking "What Would Jesus Do?", then this world would be hell.

The "Love boat" is protected by what are basically mercenaries, paid for with taxes from everyone. They are only able to live peacefully because of judges without mercy, who are willing to sentence bad people to prison and death, where any good Christian would have forgiven and (if such forgiveness were to actually mean anything) allow the criminal to go free. To "forgive" but do anything less is an empty gesture.

So let us enjoy our freedom, which was gained through countless unchristian deeds. Our lives are the greater good, apparently.
Illuminator

Rocky Mount, NC

#48 Jun 21, 2009
Light Sensitive wrote:
<quoted text>
youre like the alcoholic in the bar blaming the bartender and patrons for his drinking problems.
"If you guys werent so much fun to hang with Id not have a problem!"
so leave...log-out and dont partake of the festivities...all you do is bitch about who's here and what is posted...but you keep coming back. you know the definition of insanity? repeating the same behavior over and over and expecting a different outcome despite it never happening any other way.

in·san·i·ty [ in sánn&#601;tee ](plural in·san·i·ties)

noun

Definition:

1. lack of reason or good sense: extreme foolishness, or an act that demonstrates such foolishness


2. psychiatric condition affecting legal circumstances: legal incompetence or irresponsibility that results from a psychiatric disorder

“Religion is for stupid people”

Since: May 08

Anytown, USA

#49 Jun 21, 2009
Robert-2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL..going around the country. I guess we don't count the other religions anymore. Not PC.
So the guy went to church some 20 + years ago, and he is considered a christian. You consider him a christian. So who is stereotyping?
By the way, I thought it was "man-caused disasters."
Later :)
Well, the other religions don't breed disgruntled right-wing extremists. They breed extremists of a different kind, but not the right-wing domestic terrorist type. Don't get me wrong, the muslim terrorists you want to talk about deserve to die painful deaths in their own right, but their motivations are much different than the christian terrorists. Your attempt to deflect from the original topic has been duly noted, but don't expect to change the topic of this thread.

“Knowledge is Power”

Since: Feb 08

Pond Creek, Oklahoma

#50 Jun 21, 2009
NoamChimpsky wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, the other religions don't breed disgruntled right-wing extremists. They breed extremists of a different kind, but not the right-wing domestic terrorist type. Don't get me wrong, the muslim terrorists you want to talk about deserve to die painful deaths in their own right, but their motivations are much different than the christian terrorists. Your attempt to deflect from the original topic has been duly noted, but don't expect to change the topic of this thread.
All religions have the ability to breed "right wing domestic" terrorists. Isn't a domestic terrorist one who terrorizes their own people/country? What do think Hamas and Hezbollah are? So this topic of supposed domestic Christian terrorists in a nut shell is that they are fierce Anti- Abortion extremest? ALL terrorists are wrong and evil. But, you continue to rant that Christians are the worst. That is far from the truth. Our government is a bigger terrorists than those who hate abortion.

Since: Oct 08

Rantoul, IL

#51 Jun 21, 2009
NoamChimpsky wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, the other religions don't breed disgruntled right-wing extremists. They breed extremists of a different kind, but not the right-wing domestic terrorist type. Don't get me wrong, the muslim terrorists you want to talk about deserve to die painful deaths in their own right, but their motivations are much different than the christian terrorists. Your attempt to deflect from the original topic has been duly noted, but don't expect to change the topic of this thread.
Nope..I wasn't. It was actually a way to remind others it happened. Just like the Arthur. And you. Since the article itself could be consider against Christians as a group. And your statement, on proves the point. He also, covered different years, etc.

Since we are dealing with Right/Left-wing. Then I can safely say. That the Left-wing as a group considers soldiers right-wing. And white, and male, and Christians as a group. So this article to me. Is not recognizing the crime, death and tragedy of it all. Rather than self gratification.

But to stereotype, incite the characteristic's of the very thing he and maybe you are against.

After saying that. I could have brought up some of the liberal side of the house. Since the Arthur went back in time. And make assumption too. Very easy to do.

So, the question becomes. How do you know he's "Right", and not a "Lefty"?

How do you know he is actually a "Christian". Was he still active?

Later..

“Religion is for stupid people”

Since: May 08

Anytown, USA

#52 Jun 21, 2009
Jeremy Hoar wrote:
<quoted text>All religions have the ability to breed "right wing domestic" terrorists. Isn't a domestic terrorist one who terrorizes their own people/country? What do think Hamas and Hezbollah are? So this topic of supposed domestic Christian terrorists in a nut shell is that they are fierce Anti- Abortion extremest? ALL terrorists are wrong and evil. But, you continue to rant that Christians are the worst. That is far from the truth. Our government is a bigger terrorists than those who hate abortion.
Once again, I never said "christians are the worst". However, in America, christian extremists represent the greatest threat. Muslim terrorists are very real, but they are mostly a threat to people in Muslim countries. People like you, for example, do much more to foment hatred, intolerance, and anti-Americanism in THIS country, with comments like "the US gov't is a bigger terorrist.....", than the Muslim extremists.

“Religion is for stupid people”

Since: May 08

Anytown, USA

#53 Jun 21, 2009
Robert-2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope..I wasn't. It was actually a way to remind others it happened. Just like the Arthur. And you. Since the article itself could be consider against Christians as a group. And your statement, on proves the point. He also, covered different years, etc.
Since we are dealing with Right/Left-wing. Then I can safely say. That the Left-wing as a group considers soldiers right-wing. And white, and male, and Christians as a group. So this article to me. Is not recognizing the crime, death and tragedy of it all. Rather than self gratification.
But to stereotype, incite the characteristic's of the very thing he and maybe you are against.
After saying that. I could have brought up some of the liberal side of the house. Since the Arthur went back in time. And make assumption too. Very easy to do.
So, the question becomes. How do you know he's "Right", and not a "Lefty"?
How do you know he is actually a "Christian". Was he still active?
Later..
We know it happened. We also know Kennedy was shot, but neither of them are really relevant to the topic of home-grown right-wing christian terrorists. Also, nobody ever said christians, white males, or soldiers as a group are "extremists". Now many of these people might be right-wingers, but not necessarily the type who breed hatred and fanaticism, like white supremacists and pro-life protesters.

And I think it goes without saying that Von Brunn was an extreme right-winger. It's not too hard to find some of his right-wing rantings, which oddly enough sound nearly identical to the right-wingers who post on topix, but he virulently anti-government, anti-socialism, anti-liberal, and anti-multiculturalism, which by any standard are cornerstones of right-wing ideology.

Since: Oct 08

Rantoul, IL

#54 Jun 21, 2009
NoamChimpsky wrote:
<quoted text>
We know it happened. We also know Kennedy was shot, but neither of them are really relevant to the topic of home-grown right-wing christian terrorists. Also, nobody ever said christians, white males, or soldiers as a group are "extremists". Now many of these people might be right-wingers, but not necessarily the type who breed hatred and fanaticism, like white supremacists and pro-life protesters.
And I think it goes without saying that Von Brunn was an extreme right-winger. It's not too hard to find some of his right-wing rantings, which oddly enough sound nearly identical to the right-wingers who post on topix, but he virulently anti-government, anti-socialism, anti-liberal, and anti-multiculturalism, which by any standard are cornerstones of right-wing ideology.
Not trying insult you intelligence/preach.

Since the administration has changed. The norm has changed. Meaning the term extremist has changed. But if everthing you said was true.

Then the question becomes...were did the Left-wing/others extremist go? The bottom-line, extremist doesn't have to shoot or kill. A extremist that subverts the people, or encourage violence by repression, and lack of freedom of speech and belief can be an extremist.

And in the end. That is more dangerous. More WARs have been because of this.

Your reply are always welcomed...at least until I stop trowing things...lol..Later :)

Since: Oct 08

Rantoul, IL

#55 Jun 21, 2009
NoamChimpsky wrote:
<quoted text>
We know it happened. We also know Kennedy was shot, but neither of them are really relevant to the topic of home-grown right-wing christian terrorists. Also, nobody ever said christians, white males, or soldiers as a group are "extremists". Now many of these people might be right-wingers, but not necessarily the type who breed hatred and fanaticism, like white supremacists and pro-life protesters.
And I think it goes without saying that Von Brunn was an extreme right-winger. It's not too hard to find some of his right-wing rantings, which oddly enough sound nearly identical to the right-wingers who post on topix, but he virulently anti-government, anti-socialism, anti-liberal, and anti-multiculturalism, which by any standard are cornerstones of right-wing ideology.
Also, if I remember right. The U.S. revolution was started/fought with on 10 to 30% of the population.

So, assuming the right-wing Christine is the largest treat isn't logical. While other groups (not Christian)are majority the education centers, political centers and support base, etc. But like I was trying to get at, there was muliple stablings, killings, about 3. Within these subject. Which got little or no coverage.

So, the actual percentage to religious population. Would actually be lower per cap.

ltr.
Wayne

United States

#56 Jun 21, 2009
Light Sensitive wrote:
<quoted text>
youre like the alcoholic in the bar blaming the bartender and patrons for his drinking problems.
"If you guys werent so much fun to hang with Id not have a problem!"
so leave...log-out and dont partake of the festivities...all you do is bitch about who's here and what is posted...but you keep coming back. you know the definition of insanity? repeating the same behavior over and over and expecting a different outcome despite it never happening any other way.
Like when you keep denying God? lol

“Knowledge is Power”

Since: Feb 08

Pond Creek, Oklahoma

#57 Jun 21, 2009
NoamChimpsky wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, I never said "christians are the worst". However, in America, christian extremists represent the greatest threat. Muslim terrorists are very real, but they are mostly a threat to people in Muslim countries. People like you, for example, do much more to foment hatred, intolerance, and anti-Americanism in THIS country, with comments like "the US gov't is a bigger terorrist.....", than the Muslim extremists.
Take things out of context much? Or I guess just write what you want AND SAY I SAID IT. THAT'S CALLED LYING. I said our government was worse than those who hate abortion. Nice of you to pick and chose my posts for your own rantings. No, you didn't say they were the worst just; that they are the only ones who breed right wing domestic terrorists. ANOTHER LIE. Every faction of every major political, religious, social, and environmental group have made these said terrorists. People like you are hypocrites. Saying I foment hatred yet your posts are all about hating Christianity. I have no hatred and often keep responding to those who put me down and ridicule me just because I don't agree. If your belief in yourself is strong; others beliefs of you don't matter. I have no desire or need to name call (though I have out of anger at name calling to me). Your own intolerance of my faith is evident in the majority of your posts. I'm not perfect but at least I try to understand the thoughts of those who think differently. You just want to spout our faults and laminate on the negative issues of faith.

Since: Oct 07

Bawlmer

#58 Jun 22, 2009
Robert-2012 wrote:
<quoted text>So, assuming the right-wing Christine is the largest treat isn't logical.
I haven't met Christine, don't know if she's right-wing, how large she is, or if she's a treat. So I'll have to agree it's not logical.

Since: Oct 07

Bawlmer

#59 Jun 22, 2009
Wayne wrote:
<quoted text>
Like when you keep denying God? lol
WHAT "god"?

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