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Did 'Cure' for 'Feminine Boy' Lead to Suicide of 38-Year-Old Man?

There are 23 comments on the EDGE story from Jun 7, 2011, titled Did 'Cure' for 'Feminine Boy' Lead to Suicide of 38-Year-Old Man?. In it, EDGE reports that:

Did a "therapy" to "cure" a "feminine" boy -- and administered by then-doctoral student George Rekers -- play a role in the suicide, at age 38, of the man who had been subjected to it? That's the question CNN will investigate in the June 7 broadcast of "AC360Ao," a CNN.com article reported.

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#1 Jun 7, 2011
I know at some point, David Moore fromPekin IL will chime in on this. So before he does, remember this fact.

FTA:
While some so-called "ex-gays" say that they have been able to leave homosexual urges behind and embark on happy lives as heterosexuals, others attest to suffering deep, distressing damage from such attempts to "convert." What is unclear is how many "ex-gays" were ever gay in the first place, as opposed to being straights who were exploring their sexuality, or bisexuals who have successfully quashed consciousness of any physical attraction to members of their own gender.

Other "ex-gays" say that life for them is a continual "struggle" against innate sexual urges focused on others of the same gender. Some say that they have defeated all same-sex attraction -- but that no heterosexual urges have replaced them. Instead, they say, they have become asexual.
Intrepid

Bronx, NY

#3 Jun 7, 2011
Why is this so hard for people to understand? If Straight people are born straight then gay people are born gay. If straight people didn't choose to be straight then why do they think being gay is a "preference". The answer is simple. Bigotry defies all logic.

Since: Jan 11

Dublin, OH

#4 Jun 7, 2011
NE Jade wrote:
If the gay boi had stayed in George Rekers' program and not been a drop out he could have been cured of his queerness.
-NE Jade
Have you considered joining it. You spend a lot of time trolling a gay forum for a "straight" person.

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#5 Jun 7, 2011
NE Jade wrote:
If the gay boi had stayed in George Rekers' program and not been a drop out he could have been cured of his queerness.
-NE Jade
Once again the FAKE ne jade displays their ignorance and lack of knowledge.

The article included the following:
"As recently as 2009, a book Rekers co-authored,’Handbook of Therapy for Unwanted Homosexual Attractions,’ cites Kraig’s case as a success," the CNN article reported. "That was six years after Kirk Murphy took his own life."

The treatment was a success but the patient died? Is Homer Simpson a relative of yours?

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#6 Jun 7, 2011
Did ’Cure’ for ’Feminine Boy’ Lead to Suicide of 38-Year-Old Man?

http://www.edgemiami.com/index.php...

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#7 Jun 7, 2011
NE Jade wrote:
If the gay boi had stayed in George Rekers' program and not been a drop out he could have been cured of his queerness.
-NE Jade
He could have even traveled the world lifting Reker's luggage!

“Post-religious”

Since: Apr 08

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#8 Jun 7, 2011
This George Rekers fellow is a modern-day Joseph Mengele, having designed and supervised the tortuous experiments visited upon young boys like Kirk Murphy, whom he called "Kraig." He cited these experiments as recently as 2009 as "success stories" of his pseudoscientific lies.

He cited them as a success six years after Kirk Murphy took his own life.

He is a fraud, as is his creation, the hate group known as the Family "Research" Council. The current president of that hate and pro-torture organization is Tony Perkins.

If Joseph Mengele was a war criminal for his fiendish experiments, how is Rekers any less of a criminal for his? Or Perkins for leading such an organization today?
Gaymarriedwithki ds

United States

#9 Jun 7, 2011
This illustrated that the time is passed to put a stop to this reparative therapy crap. Any "professional" practicing this or referring patients to it should have all of their professional licensure and certifications revoked. And they should be subject to civil suits to recover damages. Let's keep this ugly practices in people's private churches where shit is already floating so high that this would hardly be noticed. Professionals should run from this or loose the right to be called professionals.
CHAS

Breckenridge, CO

#10 Jun 7, 2011
Parents often do the same thing in much more unscientific manners. Frequently the results are the same.

“Post-religious”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#11 Jun 7, 2011
CHAS wrote:
Parents often do the same thing in much more unscientific manners. Frequently the results are the same.
True, and they usually are doing it under the guise of religious mythology and superstition. Rekers and his ilk were pretending to do their sick and twisted experiments under the cover of science.

I'm curious now as to what UCLA has to say about all this. After all, Rekers was in their doctoral program and ostensibly under their supervision and tutelage. To what degree is the University of California responsible for this monstrously evil experiment of inflicting torture on a child?

“Post-religious”

Since: Apr 08

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#12 Jun 7, 2011
Gaymarriedwithkids wrote:
This illustrated that the time is passed to put a stop to this reparative therapy crap. Any "professional" practicing this or referring patients to it should have all of their professional licensure and certifications revoked. And they should be subject to civil suits to recover damages. Let's keep this ugly practices in people's private churches where shit is already floating so high that this would hardly be noticed. Professionals should run from this or loose the right to be called professionals.
Since there is no medical or scientific basis for such practices, "reparative therapy" or any other kind of "treatment" that attempts to change the real or perceived sexual orientation or gender indentity of a minor child should be legally defined as torture, with criminal penalties and carrying civil liability.

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

Since: Jun 08

Parksley, VA

#14 Jun 7, 2011
NE Jade wrote:
If the gay boi had stayed in George Rekers' program and not been a drop out he could have been cured of his queerness.
-NE Jade
Oh sure, and to boot gotten a paid trip to Europe, although he would have had to handle luggage and engage in nude, erotic [sic] massages with Rekers.

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#15 Jun 7, 2011
Jerald wrote:
This George Rekers fellow is a modern-day Joseph Mengele, having designed and supervised the tortuous experiments visited upon young boys like Kirk Murphy, whom he called "Kraig." He cited these experiments as recently as 2009 as "success stories" of his pseudoscientific lies.
He cited them as a success six years after Kirk Murphy took his own life.
He is a fraud, as is his creation, the hate group known as the Family "Research" Council. The current president of that hate and pro-torture organization is Tony Perkins.
If Joseph Mengele was a war criminal for his fiendish experiments, how is Rekers any less of a criminal for his? Or Perkins for leading such an organization today?
on a side note, research FRC on Charity Navigator.org

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm...

Anthony Perkins President, CEO $176,279 1.43% of total expenses $35,300 per year from affiliates.

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#16 Jun 7, 2011
FRC

Revenue
Primary Revenue $11,903,745
Other Revenue $165,336
Total Revenue $12,069,081

Expenses
Program Expenses $10,053,921
Administrative Expenses $682,095
Fundraising Expenses $1,518,902
Total Functional Expenses $12,254,918

Payments to Affiliates $0
Excess (or Deficit) for the year $-185,837

Net Assets $4,265,603

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm...

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#17 Jun 7, 2011
Tony Perkins gets 25% of total administrative expenses from F.R.C.

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#18 Jun 7, 2011
correction T. Perkins gets 31% of total admin expenses. (forgot to add in the $35,300 per year from affiliates.)
Disgusted American

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Jun 8, 2011
Oh yea...HATE PAYs for Ms Perkins....thats why he doesn't want to see his CASH COW of HATE dry up...then he'd have to get a REAL JOB ...after all - what are you gonna say to your next employer when they ask,(What have you been doing the last 15yrs?)...ohhh I see, heading a HATE Grp.....

“We are all atheists”

Since: May 11

Lewes, DE

#20 Jun 8, 2011
The second part of the 3-part story is on CNN Anderson Cooper tonight (Wed Jun 8). The teaser last night said that they caught up with George Rekers and he will be part of tonight's story. Can't wait to see what his spin will be...

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#21 Jun 8, 2011
The CNN reports are based on research done by the Box Turtle Bulletin. I had posted a link to their article here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TLIOBEDN8...
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#22 Jun 8, 2011
Disgusted American wrote:
Oh yea...HATE PAYs for Ms Perkins....thats why he doesn't want to see his CASH COW of HATE dry up...then he'd have to get a REAL JOB ...after all - what are you gonna say to your next employer when they ask,(What have you been doing the last 15yrs?)...ohhh I see, heading a HATE Grp.....
The same thing powers Maggie and Brian over at NOM
.
They won't be volunteering to give up their mormon cash cow no matter who they're paid to step on

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