Prop. 8 opponents ask California Sup...

Prop. 8 opponents ask California Supreme Court to reject federal court's request for ruling

There are 5 comments on the www.latimes.com story from Jan 26, 2011, titled Prop. 8 opponents ask California Supreme Court to reject federal court's request for ruling. In it, www.latimes.com reports that:

An attorney for same-sex couples hoping to overturn Proposition 8 in federal court urged the California Supreme Court on Tuesday to reject a request that it rule on whether initiative sponsors have authority to defend ballot measures.

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“TMA&CRR One Love One Marriage ”

Since: Sep 09

port orange

#1 Jan 26, 2011
fingers crossed i wanna see this go all the way to SCOTUS

Since: Jan 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#2 Jan 26, 2011
Travis A wrote:
fingers crossed i wanna see this go all the way to SCOTUS
I have learned that you need to be careful what you wish for... You never really know what's going to happen.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#4 Jan 26, 2011
Travis A wrote:
fingers crossed i wanna see this go all the way to SCOTUS
It won't got to SCOTUS until probably more states are in favor of Marriage Equality.

This is going to either be dismissed by the 9th Circuit because of the standing issue........or.........it will be ruled on it's merits and then Prop 8 will still be overturned and Judge Walker's ruling will stand.

I agree with Dubya........be careful what you wish for......if just the right question is not presented to SCOTUS.......this could be ugly if we should lose.......but again......I believe in Olson and Boies and if this can be won in front of SCOTUS........they're the ones to do it!!!
RJS

Brookline, MA

#5 Jan 26, 2011
I enjoy Rose's last statement.
The question comes down to timing. While more states would be ideal (I like to think > 15 states) before a legitimate challenge on DOMA, ruling LGBT men and women as a suspect class, or invalidating public referendum on LGBT issues, Olson and Boies are the two to make it happen.
The question is would we like to extend the fight of marriage equality in California by another few years in order for a chance that this fight would be won in SCOTUS, or do we want to overturn prop 8 without larger national implications?
It can go three ways:
1. California delayed
2. California won with no national standing/ruling
3. National standing/ruling that crosses all states.
If we want the fight to end this decade, we need a SCOTUS ruling. Until then, we need to blast this state by state until a significant number of states have undisputed marriage equality:
MA, CT, NH, VT, ME, RI, MD, CA, IA, NY, PA, D.C, NJ, and perhaps WA.
Either way, if a SCOTUS ruling isn't had and Walker's decision stands, we do need to push to win a ballot initiative in any of the states - something that would turn the tides since it would expose the more "moderate" anti-gay organizations like NOM as the homophobes they are.
Once we win a ballot initiative, NOM would be up in arms and quickly abandon the "Let the people vote!" mantra for something more alienating to social moderates.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#6 Jan 27, 2011
RJS wrote:
I enjoy Rose's last statement.
The question comes down to timing. While more states would be ideal (I like to think > 15 states) before a legitimate challenge on DOMA, ruling LGBT men and women as a suspect class, or invalidating public referendum on LGBT issues, Olson and Boies are the two to make it happen.
The question is would we like to extend the fight of marriage equality in California by another few years in order for a chance that this fight would be won in SCOTUS, or do we want to overturn prop 8 without larger national implications?
It can go three ways:
1. California delayed
2. California won with no national standing/ruling
3. National standing/ruling that crosses all states.
If we want the fight to end this decade, we need a SCOTUS ruling. Until then, we need to blast this state by state until a significant number of states have undisputed marriage equality:
MA, CT, NH, VT, ME, RI, MD, CA, IA, NY, PA, D.C, NJ, and perhaps WA.
Either way, if a SCOTUS ruling isn't had and Walker's decision stands, we do need to push to win a ballot initiative in any of the states - something that would turn the tides since it would expose the more "moderate" anti-gay organizations like NOM as the homophobes they are.
Once we win a ballot initiative, NOM would be up in arms and quickly abandon the "Let the people vote!" mantra for something more alienating to social moderates.
I agree with you and hopefully we can pick up Maryland, Rhode Island, maybe New York and then California......this would be considered a good year if we did........however we might just get 3.

By the way the Republicans are keeping their promise on the economy and jobs ( lol!!), they should be kicked out in 2012.

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