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Outcry over 'chilling' campus pepper spray use

There are 10 comments on the All Voices story from Nov 21, 2011, titled Outcry over 'chilling' campus pepper spray use. In it, All Voices reports that:

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Robert Beasley

Phelan, CA

#1 Nov 21, 2011
We must stop any attempt to limit the actions of the Occupy protesters. Burn every City in Calif to the ground if you must. Cowardly Calif resent any one defending their own families or personal and private property from the mob. Disband the Police and let the chips fall where they may. We can't afford their overtime as it is.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#2 Nov 21, 2011
Robert Beasley wrote:
We must stop any attempt to limit the actions of the Occupy protesters. Burn every City in Calif to the ground if you must. Cowardly Calif resent any one defending their own families or personal and private property from the mob. Disband the Police and let the chips fall where they may. We can't afford their overtime as it is.
Robert Beasley

Prior to being politicized by the revolutionaries,*(now in power)*, worker *("middle")* class cops knew the first thing the taxpayer supported Thug people do when they get caught is to lie. In that less superstitious pre revolutionary era, the cops predicated their dealings with the Thug people in conformity with that easily discernible truth.

Once the revolutionaries seized control of Government, taxpayer funded academia, and the public purse, they used the outrageously expensive taxpayer funded California university system to politicize and to reeducate the taxpayer funded, revolutionary controlled, police. University revolutionaries instilled into the minds of the cops the most nonsensical of the failed ideas to come out of the 60s 70s revolution.

Hard working overtaxed Californians residing in radical controlled cities such as Oakland, Berkeley, and Long Beach fear making complaints against taxpayer supported Thug people unless they have the support of "revolutionary approved" community activist facilitator organizations. This is because of "the new revolutionary paradigm" the revolutionaries have instilled into the minds of the cops. That new paradigm states "there is always "two sides" to every story", and that it is politically incorrect not to lend greater weight to the "stories" of the Thug people. Besides, it's likely revolutionary law would result in hard earned taxpayer money being used to pay for the Thugs' expensive Government licensed defense lawyers, even in the unlikely event there is enough room in the prisons to hold them all.

During the revolution, it was common to see the revolutionaries showing their contempt for the taxpayers and the cops by hurling urine and feces into the faces of the cops while calling them - among other things - PIGS. Still, even though the revolutionaries have now turned the cops against their worker *("middle")* class roots, one cannot but help feel sorry for them.

One example is that of the taxpayer dependent high paid rich revolutionaries now in control of the radical wastefully expensive California universities. The "claim" put forth by the revolutionaries is that they are "entitled" to outrageous amounts of hard earned taxpayer money to manage the political indoctrinating universities because of their platitudinal claims that they "take responsibility" for the control they have over all aspects of those institutions - including the actions of the university cops.

Yet, university cops,- even when they are acting in accord with the "get tough" dictates of the high paid revolutionary university hierarchy - are sought by that same revolutionary hierarchy to serve in the capacity of scapegoats once there is a danger of "taxpayer opinion getting out of hand". According to the Bible:

"And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:" (Leviticus 16:21)

"And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness." (Leviticus 16:22"

Ronald
LBer

Pasadena, CA

#3 Nov 22, 2011
Pepper spray? That's the stuff I put in my dish at Chili cook-off contests - weak. Try military grade CS; now that's the gift that keeps on giving! Pansies!
cwsculptor

United States

#4 Nov 23, 2011
The police at Davis were using military grade pepper spray. Pain can last several days, in some cases can cause some permanent eye damage.
Use of pepper spray is indicated when there is ongoing violence, danger to the police or others, or extreme difficulty in making an arrest. It is obvious from the videos that these conditions did not apply. The police do not have the right to use violent strong-arm tactics on non-violent people using their first amendment rights.
Dane Thorsen

AOL

#5 Nov 23, 2011
cwsculptor wrote:
The police at Davis were using military grade pepper spray. Pain can last several days, in some cases can cause some permanent eye damage.
Use of pepper spray is indicated when there is ongoing violence, danger to the police or others, or extreme difficulty in making an arrest. It is obvious from the videos that these conditions did not apply. The police do not have the right to use violent strong-arm tactics on non-violent people using their first amendment rights.
Guess it's a generational thing. I had Parents who taught me to enough to know that after the third or fourth warning, if you still ignore the Police bad stuff might happen. These Pitiful Kids obviously just had sperm or egg donors.
Ronald

Bellflower, CA

#6 Nov 23, 2011
Dane Thorsen wrote:
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Guess it's a generational thing. I had Parents who taught me to enough to know that after the third or fourth warning, if you still ignore the Police bad stuff might happen. These Pitiful Kids obviously just had sperm or egg donors.
Dane Thorsen.

You make a very good point. It may well be generational. Many of us forget how the revolutionaries,*(now in power)* "demonstrated" in their successful 60s 70s era efforts to overthrow the American republic. Compared with them, the actions of today's "pitiful kids" are peaceful, respectful, and downright restrained.

South LA was not burned only because the revolutionaries were angry that Watts was named for a White guy. Before the revolution, American Avenue was known as "automobile row" because of all the tax money automobile dealers doing business along the street produced for what - at that time - was the "first world" city of Long Beach. After the revolutionaries *(now in power)* burned them out, all the dealers fled the city, never to return. Even the burned Department of Motor Vehicles building was rebuilt in "a more defensible" location.

Today, wealthy high paid "tough as nails" taxpayer supported university Chancellors who hold taxpayer funded politically correct "women and gender studies" positions and who use hard earned taxpayer money to see to it that all sorts of other trendy taxpayer funded failed Utopean 60s era social theories are inserted into the pliable minds of us kids. Then, they resort to tearful pleas after university hired and controlled cops - acting under the direct control of those Chancellors and their high paid staffs - get caught assaulting peaceful little children gathered for the purpose of having their longstanding grievances redressed.

Now that the revolutionaries have "worked the system" *(so to speak)* and have gotten rich and powerful, they chide us kids into the belief that the world should stop so they can protect their ill gotten interests by getting off. Sorry Charlie. That is not how revolutions work.

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Ronald
LBer

Pasadena, CA

#7 Nov 24, 2011
cwsculptor wrote:
The police at Davis were using military grade pepper spray. Pain can last several days, in some cases can cause some permanent eye damage....
No such thing as 'military grade' pepper spray. The only time the military will use something as weak as pepper spray is when dealing with civilians in a domestic disturbance.

Serious use requires CS gas. As an MP back in the day we got hit with both in training, numerous times. And let me tell you, ANYONE will take that pepper spray over CS any day of the week.

My brother-in-law in the Central Jail says they'll spray the inmates when they start fighting each other, and it still takes about 5 minutes before it gets irritating enough for the inmates to stop fighting on their own (though usually back up has arrived by then and they stop the fight.)

Oh, and if you are going to use it in your chili, be sure to use the pure stuff; some brands have a preservative in it which does the taste of the chili no good at all!

Speaking of chili...
Bill says

San Pablo, CA

#8 Nov 24, 2011
There is a BEAR sleeping. IT is time. IT is TIME. to wake that BEAR. Law Enforcement Personal and their Command are Soldiers of the King AND the State.

If anyone has their rights infrnged who are the primary infringers. LAW ENFORCEMENT. Consider. What makes the best Police Officer ? A school YARD BULLIE or A School Yard Sissie ?

Law Enforcement places all the qualified sissies behind a desk til they get so fat that they are used to fall on suspects.

Natzis used "SARIN GAS" ( mixture of bleach and amonia) and when people comlplained of chemical odor, the authorties ( the police (Kastfo)) said it is just the smell of Laundry, All you JEWS are crazy complainers... Many died.

There chemical attacks taking place across America every day. Law Enforcement say, " IT just the smell of soap from Laundry"

So CONSIDER, today who are the NATZIs ? Following orders in what one says and dose, today most Police Officers do not live in the cities they patrol.

YOU (the American citizen) are just another VIOLATOR !

Wize up. Wake up the Bear !
Rob Braun

AOL

#9 Nov 25, 2011
Bill says wrote:
There is a BEAR sleeping. IT is time. IT is TIME. to wake that BEAR. Law Enforcement Personal and their Command are Soldiers of the King AND the State.
If anyone has their rights infrnged who are the primary infringers. LAW ENFORCEMENT. Consider. What makes the best Police Officer ? A school YARD BULLIE or A School Yard Sissie ?
Law Enforcement places all the qualified sissies behind a desk til they get so fat that they are used to fall on suspects.
Natzis used "SARIN GAS" ( mixture of bleach and amonia) and when people comlplained of chemical odor, the authorties ( the police (Kastfo)) said it is just the smell of Laundry, All you JEWS are crazy complainers... Many died.
There chemical attacks taking place across America every day. Law Enforcement say, " IT just the smell of soap from Laundry"
So CONSIDER, today who are the NATZIs ? Following orders in what one says and dose, today most Police Officers do not live in the cities they patrol.
YOU (the American citizen) are just another VIOLATOR !
Wize up. Wake up the Bear !
I HATE using GAS too but Clubbing the punks just isn't an accetable alternative.
LBer

Riverside, CA

#10 Nov 25, 2011
A bit of rough and tumble fun with rowdy college students and campus police is just goodtimes; give the kids something to talk about when their parents start with their 60's movement stories.

Just be careful we don't turn into Europe, where people block cars, trains and planes when they don't get their way.

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