Extreme Shunning

Aug 2, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Gilmer Mirror

"Really, what your beloved family member needs to see is your resolute stance to put Jehovah above everything else - including the family bond," warns the magazine on page 16, before asserting, "Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail."

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Jehovah's witnesses are not concerned about what you think or believe, if you are content in your understanding of life, so be it.

Jehovah's witnesses are looking to teach people who want to know the truth, and too bad, but only the meek and honest accept the truth. Everyone else is not of our sort, and they are not allowed to remain in the true Congregation of God's people, they are removed by the angels and the elders. Matthew 13:41

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True Christian witness wrote:
The Bible teaches that those who are ungodly and unrepentant should be removed from the Christian Congregation, and they should not be associated with or talked to until they repent and get reinstated into the congregation.
That is the direction of Jehovah God's word to his people who claim to love and obey Him. If you cannot accept the fact that the true Christian congregation today is Jehovah's witnesses, that is not our problem.
1Corinthians 5:11-13
The problem with this shunning business is that you take little kids baptise them, they have no clue that trying a cigarette due to peer pressure or curiosity can get them shunned for life from family ...how many kids did all of us know that secretly tried smoking...I know plenty of elders kids who did or confessed to it as they were adults and they were baptised.
My sibing stands an adult disfellowshiped many years ago over something foolish. Kids do stupid things my sibling is now experiencing extreme shunning thanks to the newer articles that came out I told my realitives this was wrong "JIM JONES" wrong.

I now have a wonderful relationship with my sibling and not so good with my parent. OH well their choice:) I chose to treat all like Jesus would with love and compasion especially those in need of compassion not hate.

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True Christian witness wrote:
Jehovah's witnesses are not concerned about what you think or believe, if you are content in your understanding of life, so be it.
Jehovah's witnesses are looking to teach people who want to know the truth, and too bad, but only the meek and honest accept the truth. Everyone else is not of our sort, and they are not allowed to remain in the true Congregation of God's people, they are removed by the angels and the elders. Matthew 13:41
Your comment doesn't sound like a meek and honest person.

I was removed from the KH by myself, by the power of the blood of Jesus! I found out that the JWs were teaching lies and promoting a religion, organization and yes, even men as their Savior. That is NOT what the bible teaches at all. So my friend, if you wish to be saved, you better depend on Jesus for that salvation, because no religion, no organization and certainly no men are going to save you in any way what so ever. You need to read these two scriptures and understand what they are saying to you.

For neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved. " Acts 4:12 KJV

And that name is not Jehovah's Witness, or Watchtower Organization or Governing Body aka Faithful and Discreet Slave, it is JESUS CHIRST, The only name whereby we MUST BE SAVED!

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Beleiveth in JESUS CHRIST, not in a religion or organization or GB aka F&DS!

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True Christian witness wrote:
Jehovah's witnesses are not concerned about what you think or believe, if you are content in your understanding of life, so be it.
Jehovah's witnesses are looking to teach people who want to know the truth, and too bad, but only the meek and honest accept the truth. Everyone else is not of our sort, and they are not allowed to remain in the true Congregation of God's people, they are removed by the angels and the elders. Matthew 13:41
Well if you believe all that you have said I'm sure the "angels" will be removing your arrogant but sometime soon or as many JW all like to say God leaves someone like you in for a long time to test for other good Christians....in otherwords your the bad guy there to harm others to test their faith. Your not a Christian with the Arrogance and lack of love that you shine forth.
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True Christian witness wrote:
Jehovah's witnesses are not concerned about what you think or believe, if you are content in your understanding of life, so be it.
Jehovah's witnesses are looking to teach people who want to know the truth, and too bad, but only the meek and honest accept the truth. Everyone else is not of our sort, and they are not allowed to remain in the true Congregation of God's people, they are removed by the angels and the elders. Matthew 13:41
You have been fleeced by your so-called wonderful organization.

A christian learns to follow the commands to love their neighbor.
Everything about being a christian is based on love.

That crap you organization teaches is not about love so it is not christian.
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elwood wrote:
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Here is how it works...
The Watchtower simply prints up some new crap to supercede old crap and tells the JWs to just believe it.
The JWs nod their heads when it is read at the KH.
Pretty simple really.
You hit the nail on the head!
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Jesus said, the truth would separate families and people, the truth is like a real sword that would cut through desires and even marriage. The truth that you are acceptable to God would separate you from the ungodly world and the ungodly people in it.

Jehovah God and Jesus do not leave the loyal one, it's the disloyal one that leaves them or they are removed.

Matthew 10:34,35

(Matthew 10:34, 35) Do not think I came to bring peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35&#8239;For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law.
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True Christian witness wrote:
Jesus said, the truth would separate families and people, the truth is like a real sword that would cut through desires and even marriage. The truth that you are acceptable to God would separate you from the ungodly world and the ungodly people in it.
Jehovah God and Jesus do not leave the loyal one, it's the disloyal one that leaves them or they are removed.
Matthew 10:34,35
(Matthew 10:34, 35) Do not think I came to bring peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35&#8239;For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law.
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
Joseph Goebbels

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To shield the other JWs the former Jws.
To repress dissent.
Hence the need for the Watchtower to shun.

Hence the reason the Watchtower does not allow JWs to mix with other religions.

JWs not allowed at holiday/ birthday celebrations that would bring them into contact with none JW family.

JWs discouraged from higher education, serving in the military.

JWs kept busy with Watchtower propaganda.
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As to "truth" a Roman governor asked Jesus perhaps cynically, "What is truth?

Truth is progressive as many of Jehovah's Witnesses know, so to claim that you have the "Truth" or even call yourself "The Truth" is just pure arrogance in my opinion, even a pagan Roman governor knew better.

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True Christian witness wrote:
Jesus said, the truth would separate families and people, the truth is like a real sword that would cut through desires and even marriage. The truth that you are acceptable to God would separate you from the ungodly world and the ungodly people in it.
Jehovah God and Jesus do not leave the loyal one, it's the disloyal one that leaves them or they are removed.
Matthew 10:34,35
(Matthew 10:34, 35) Do not think I came to bring peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35&#8239;For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law.
Disloyal to who? A religion, a organization, a group of men called the GB aka F&DS? Just who is this disloyalty to that you refer to?
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Jesus was the manifestation of Jehovah God, when people heard Jesus they knew that he was a godly man. Jesus was a prophet and the only son of God, he is the example all true Christians are to follow, even to death. John 1:14
1Peter 2: 21,22

Unless you obey Jesus and worship Jehovah God the one way directed by Jesus our King, you do not qualify for the free gift of everlasting life. Obedience to Jesus is what is required along with accurate knowledge of God's word. Only Jehovah's witnesses can direct you to Jehovah God's approval for surviving the end of this world.
John 3:36
John 4:24

You can say whatever you like about Jehovah's witnesses, we don't care, we are focused on preaching and teaching God's word to help people survive the end of this world.
Matthew 28:19,20
Matthew 24:14

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True Christian witness wrote:
Jesus was the manifestation of Jehovah God, when people heard Jesus they knew that he was a godly man. Jesus was a prophet and the only son of God, he is the example all true Christians are to follow, even to death. John 1:14
1Peter 2: 21,22
Unless you obey Jesus and worship Jehovah God the one way directed by Jesus our King, you do not qualify for the free gift of everlasting life. Obedience to Jesus is what is required along with accurate knowledge of God's word. Only Jehovah's witnesses can direct you to Jehovah God's approval for surviving the end of this world.
John 3:36
John 4:24
You can say whatever you like about Jehovah's witnesses, we don't care, we are focused on preaching and teaching God's word to help people survive the end of this world.
Matthew 28:19,20
Matthew 24:14
Hmm if I don't worship Jehovah, I wont be saved? Lets see what the bible says about that...

"For there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12) JESUS IS THAT NAME

"For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all." (1 Timothy 2:5) JESUS IS THE MEDIATOR TO ALL MEN

"There is one body and one Spirit ... one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in you all." (Ephesians 4:4) THAT ALSO IS JESUS

"I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6) AGAIN JESUS IS HE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE

"I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and find pasture ... I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly." (John 10:9)
THROUGH JESUS

"I am the resurrection and the life, he who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die." (John 11:25) AGAIN JESUS

"I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." (John 8:12) AGAIN JESUS

"I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger and he who believes in Me shall never thirst." (John 6:35) AGAIN JESUS

"I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever." (John 6:51)AGAIN JESUS

"... whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:15) AGAIN BELIEVE IN JESUS

"He who believes in the Son has everlasting life and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." (John 3:36) AGAIN BELIEVE IN JESUS

"Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." (John 8:24) AGAIN JESUS

"He who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life." (John 5:24) AGAIN JESUS

"...and this is the testimony; that God has given us eternal life and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; He who does not have the Son of God does not have life." (1 John 5:11)

THIS LIFE IS IN HIS SON JESUS CHRIST

"And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world. Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God." (1 John 4:14)

Jehovah sent his SON AS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD.

You are not focused on saving the world, you are focused on converting people into JW's. Being focused on saving people would be teaching them about JESUS and what he has done for ALL OF US.
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The Scriptures are milk and water for spiritual babies, even cereal and bread, but you must be a mature spiritual man to eat the steak and potatoes of Scriptures, to be fed and nourished to be able to fight for the truth and wear the armor of battle and imitate Jesus.
Ephesians 6:10-20
Hebrews 6:1

You are not the sort Jesus wants to fight in his battle against unrighteousness, little babies do not survive alone in a war. You do not have an accurate knowledge of Scripture and Christendom doesn't have it, only Jehovah's witnesses have accurate knowledge and teach the truth. It just takes a meek person to accept that fact.
John 17:3

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The Scriptures are milk and water for spiritual babies, even cereal and bread, but you must be a mature spiritual man to eat the steak and potatoes of Scriptures, to be fed and nourished to be able to fight for the truth and wear the armor of battle and imitate Jesus.
Ephesians 6:10-20
Hebrews 6:1
You are not the sort Jesus wants to fight in his battle against unrighteousness, little babies do not survive alone in a war. You do not have an accurate knowledge of Scripture and Christendom doesn't have it, only Jehovah's witnesses have accurate knowledge and teach the truth. It just takes a meek person to accept that fact.
John 17:3
LOL, well I have to say you have the JW lingo down pat.

I will let Jesus judge me, you nor anyone in your religion can do that. Christianity teaches Jesus, you teach GB aka F&DS. Which one do you think Jesus approves of? Christianity teaches that Jesus is our ONLY Savior, JWs teach that it takes obedience to the GB aka F&DS to be saved, which one does the bible teach?

It takes a meek person to admit they have been lied to for years and humble themselves before the Lord and ask for forgiveness for all those years they put into a organization. It takes a humble person to be able to walk down the street and smile when they see someone they still love, turn their heads away from them and walk away. It takes a humble person to admit that they lay their lives down to one and only one for salvation, and that one is JESUS Christ. Not to a religion, not to a organization, not to a GB aka F&DS. Jesus died for us, not the GB, Jesus dies for us, not a religion, Jesus died for us, not a organization. What you are doing is denying that Jesus did anything for you alone. YOu believe it takes being a JW, belonging to an organization and supporting MEN. SHOW ME FOR GOODNESS SAKE, THOSE TEACHINGS IN THE BIBLE. SHOW ME FOR YOUR SALVATION SAKE, THOSE TEACHINGS IN THE BIBLE. Unless you can show me those teachings FROM THE BIBLE, it shows you they are false teachings.

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The Scriptures are milk and water for spiritual babies, even cereal and bread, but you must be a mature spiritual man to eat the steak and potatoes of Scriptures, to be fed and nourished to be able to fight for the truth and wear the armor of battle and imitate Jesus.
Ephesians 6:10-20
Hebrews 6:1
You are not the sort Jesus wants to fight in his battle against unrighteousness, little babies do not survive alone in a war. You do not have an accurate knowledge of Scripture and Christendom doesn't have it, only Jehovah's witnesses have accurate knowledge and teach the truth. It just takes a meek person to accept that fact.
John 17:3
Steak and potatoes? You poor deluded person. JWs simply get an aroma of steak and potatoes as the consume the cherry-picked scriptures set out for them by the WTS...you never get to dine on those meatier portions.

“The Truth Shall Make You Free”

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RedhorseWoman wrote:
JWs simply get an aroma of steak and potatoes as the consume the cherry-picked scriptures set out for them by the WTS...you never get to dine on those meatier portions.
Too busy chewing over the latest Watchtower magazine. Why read the Bible when you have the Reasoning book?
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Jehovah's witnesses are living proof that God has a people on this earth.
What other religion has 8 million people all united in a brotherhood, all trying to live according to the standard and principles of the Bible, none. John 17:3
Only Jehovah's witnesses have Almighty God Jehovah's approval, and only these people are preaching and telling the good news of God's Kingdom with Jesus ruling as King in heaven today. Only these people are warning people of the end of this world, since 1914. Only these people can direct you to Jehovah God and your personal relationship with him, Jesus Christ as King is directing this work with his angels, and we are deep in the harvest. Matthew 13:40-43
Only Jehovah's witnesses can show you from your Bible how to survive the end of this world, but Jesus said only the meek and humble will listen and obey his requirements. John 3:36 Matthew 5:5
There is nothing meek and humble about the way you have boasted about your cult being the only way to be saved. there was nothing meek and humble and about the state one of your overweight fat sweaty smelly pig ignorant elders left the Kingdom Hall shit house with excrement sprayed all over the floor. He simply ordered a 10 year old girl (not his own child) to clear it up. Being meek and humble to the Elder and by association to the Watchtower society the child's parents encouraged the poor child to obey. Meek and humble to your fellow man and to the Lord Jesus Christ your creator would be encouraging. That is never going to happen when Jehovah's Witnesses indulge in idolatry of man and particularly satanic men at that. The example of the Elder is typical. Perhaps the Watchtower could introduce a policy for these filthy Elders to clean up there own dung
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True Christian witness wrote:
The Bible teaches that those who are ungodly and unrepentant should be removed from the Christian Congregation, and they should not be associated with or talked to until they repent and get reinstated into the congregation.
That is the direction of Jehovah God's word to his people who claim to love and obey Him. If you cannot accept the fact that the true Christian congregation today is Jehovah's witnesses, that is not our problem.
1Corinthians 5:11-13
IT IS WRITTEN,

"43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5: 43-48, KJV)

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True Christian witness wrote:
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Jehovah's witnesses are living proof that God has a people on this earth.
What other religion has 8 million people all united in a brotherhood, all trying to live according to the standard and principles of the Bible, none. John 17:3
Only Jehovah's witnesses have Almighty God Jehovah's approval, and only these people are preaching and telling the good news of God's Kingdom with Jesus ruling as King in heaven today. Only these people are warning people of the end of this world, since 1914. Only these people can direct you to Jehovah God and your personal relationship with him, Jesus Christ as King is directing this work with his angels, and we are deep in the harvest. Matthew 13:40-43
Only Jehovah's witnesses can show you from your Bible how to survive the end of this world, but Jesus said only the meek and humble will listen and obey his requirements. John 3:36 Matthew 5:5
Jehovah's Witnesses have said a lot about the end of this world. Where is the proof?

Here's what I know is true about Jehovah's Witnesses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

This is all anyone needs to know about them.

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Typical JW stuff.
In their poor little minds they think their organization is the visible representation of God Himself and therefore, leaving this organization is the same as leaving God.
Will this ever change? Probably someday when this shunning policy gets too expensive for them not to change it.
At last they don't burn them at the stake like what went on in the good old days although I'm sure they would if they could.
Hi everyone. I went to Northview Community Church for a while and experienced excommunication from Vern Heidebrecht and also shunning from South Abbotsford Mennonite Brethren Church. I am Jewish and not Mennonite but I experienced extreme shunning from the Mennonites to the point that the Mennonites call the police on me frequently whenever an opportunity arises. I have seen what extreme shunning is like and it really hurts.

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