DOC officer recommends jail time for DA's son

Jul 13, 2008 | Posted by: Downslow | Full story: www.claremoreprogress.com

The Oklahoma Department of Corrections is recommending jail time for the son of Rogers County District Attorney Gene Haynes.

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Jul 13, 2008
 
If this wasn't the DA's son, would it be news worthy? If not, then is this just a means of embarrasing the DA?

If it is newsworthy, why?

Doesn't this happen almost daily in the lives of people without professional titles?

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Jul 14, 2008
 
Who knows?
What we cannot figure out is why this DA is still blocking our son from finding out why the Catoosa Police Department attempted to frame our son on a totally false felony charge.
For details see our webpages at http://www.falseprosecution.com
For other strange and unfathomable actions of this DA, see also
http://www.RogersCountyGrandJury.com
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http://www.KnightsInDirtyArmour.com

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Jul 14, 2008
 
I read the web pages. What I cannot see an answer to is motive. What motive are you thinking exists? Why would all of these public officials risk their careers to frame someone on rather small criminal charges? I am also not understanding how the DA is being linked to the alleged corruption. Honestly, it sounds to me like he was given a charge and he's only doing his job to prosecute based on the information he was given. Am I missing something?

Also, how is this tied in with the grand jury people? I'm not understanding that affiliation.

I'm not wanting to start an argument but I would like a little clearer understanding of the allegations.

I'm not trying to down you but have you considered rewriting the page to make it a little easier to read? It's kind of rough and it's easy to get lost because it moves from topic to topic too quickly and then bounces back to previous topics. With the bouncing, it's kind of hard to make sense of it all.

On the first issue... Is this all over a traffic ticket that was written after a car crash? How did it escalate from a traffic ticket to being in jail?

The second issue is a tiny bit clearer but it still does not provide a reasonable motive. I'm also confused as to what place was alleged to have been burglarized and why the home owner where your son was arrested would need an attorney. I'm also not understanding why the home owner was arrested. Can you explain that a little better?

I do have to disagree with one point you made. You declared that "contributing to the deliquency of a minor" is not applicable because of your son's age of 18 at the time but I think it's the appropriate charge made against someone who provides alcohol to someone under the age of 21. Now, this doesn't go to the defense that he was only drinking water so, that's moot. But, if someone provided someone with alcohol who was under the age of 21, I think the contributing charge would be appropriate. Even though they're not juveniles, I think the law still declares them "minors" in relation to the possession of alcohol.

Anyway... just looking for some clarity on this.
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Jul 15, 2008
 
Downslow wrote:
I read the web pages. What I cannot see an answer to is motive. What motive are you thinking exists? Why would all of these public officials risk their careers to frame someone on rather small criminal charges?
Second Degree Burglay is not a small criminal charge, but a felony that carries penitentiary time. And you lose your right to vote if they hold a kangaroo court and convict you like this DA did on our other son on the false traffic charge in Mayes county.

What motive? That is exactly what we want to know. We are still seeking an explanation for this gross violation of our son's civil rights. The Catoosa Police and the DA both denied having any reports concerning this and refused to talk to us days after this had occurred. We know they are lieing. Even the two attorneys we were illegally forced to hire by this court system would not show us any reports. This is collusion with the DA. Nobody knows anything.

You wrote: "I am also not understanding how the DA is being linked to the alleged corruption. Honestly, it sounds to me like he was given a charge and he's only doing his job to prosecute based on the information he was given. Am I missing something?"

The charge was Second Degree Burglary based on what everybody, including the trasporting Police Officer knew was a pack of lies. Where did this charge go? Where did that pack of lies go? Where is this libel stored?

"""I do have to disagree with one point you made. You declared that "contributing to the deliquency of a minor" is not applicable because of your son's age of 18 at the time but I think it's the appropriate charge made against someone who provides alcohol to someone under the age of 21.
Now, this doesn't go to the defense that he was only drinking water so, that's moot. But, if someone provided someone with alcohol who was under the age of 21, I think the contributing charge would be appropriate."""

The homeowner had his own bottle of booze inside his own residence on a Friday evening and he did not give our son any booze from that bottle. Another totally false charge.

As to the Contributing charge, it is just the law, It is called the Rule of Law. Oklahoma law states the minor must be under the age of 18 for this charge to be applicable. Our son was 19, three days shy of his 20th birthday.

The Grand Jury? We were advised by the Oklahoma Attorney General's Office to go to the Rogers County Grand Jury Committee because the Attorney General was getting so many complaints on this DA. We found we were far from alone.

We thank you for your critique of our webpages. We will try to make them more readable.

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Jul 16, 2008
 
FYI:
The attached motions, namely:

MOTION FOR A GRAND JURY

MOTION OF ETHICAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND UNETHICAL CONDUCT OF ATTORNEY AND MOTION FOR AN EMERGENCY HEARING (Brendan McHugh)

MOTION FOR PSYCHOLOGICAL/PSYCHIATRIC TESTING OF PETITIONERS (Jeffery and Melba Hall)

MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE DISMISSAL CJ-2008-185

were received and file stamped today, July 16, 2008 by the District Court Clerk of Rogers County, Oklahoma. On July 3, 2008, at 4:36 PM The Honorable Judge Sheila Condron withdrew from the case and entered an Order for Reassignment. We are awaiting a non-Rogers County judge to be assigned.

http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/GetC...

Any questions, please feel free to contact me.

Jim A. Hall
Monticello, Arkansas

As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.
Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
Psalm 127:4-5

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Jul 17, 2008
 
"In addition, Haynes appears in need of further intervention addressing cognitive thinking, to include impulse control, low self-esteem and aggression.”

Seems Haynes III may have had a poor upbringing. Was he abused as a child? Domestic violence in the home? What happened in this young 22 year old's life to cause him to be a criminal? Was it the unethical, crimninal and corruption of his father, Eugene Haynes II? How does an honset prosecutor raise a criminal? Lots of questions. We need a Rogers County Grand Jury to find the answers!

Call and write the judicial members of Rogers County and DEMAND an Order for a Rogers County Grand Jury!
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Jul 17, 2008
 
jimahall wrote:
"In addition, Haynes appears in need of further intervention addressing cognitive thinking, to include impulse control, low self-esteem and aggression.”
Seems Haynes III may have had a poor upbringing. Was he abused as a child? Domestic violence in the home? What happened in this young 22 year old's life to cause him to be a criminal? Was it the unethical, crimninal and corruption of his father, Eugene Haynes II? How does an honset prosecutor raise a criminal? Lots of questions. We need a Rogers County Grand Jury to find the answers!
Call and write the judicial members of Rogers County and DEMAND an Order for a Rogers County Grand Jury!
It is such a pity no court takes you seriously. First of all your children are not out of the woods yet. That comment may come back to bite you in the rear 10 years from now when they turn out to be criminals. What are you going to say then? I know. The system is corrupt and any town you live in is out to get your kids for no reason. It won't be your fault....
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Jul 17, 2008
 
The district attorney is the father of two sons, whom he says are “opposites.”

“You know, his brother was the valedictorian of his class. And Eugene, sometimes I can look back and say what could I have done better for him,” Haynes said.“It’s unfortunate that he has had some trouble. I’m trying to encourage him to deal with his problem.”

THAT is a father who is clearly suffering over the acts his son has committed. Evil people like you want to kick people when they are already down. Go say a prayer for your self.
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Jul 17, 2008
 
Hey idiot at AOL. Stop stealing my name.

Why hello Vick the coward.

Would you be Dad Haynes?

Or Dad singer or Dad Hester?
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Jul 17, 2008
 

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Hey idiot at AOL. Stop stealing my name.
Why hello Vick the coward.
Would you be Dad Haynes?
Or Dad singer or Dad Hester?
No idiot I am not. I am just a Dad. With an opinion. Good day dad!:-)

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Jul 17, 2008
 
Dad wrote:
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It is such a pity no court takes you seriously. First of all your children are not out of the woods yet. That comment may come back to bite you in the rear 10 years from now when they turn out to be criminals. What are you going to say then? I know. The system is corrupt and any town you live in is out to get your kids for no reason. It won't be your fault....
All of my children but one has asked Jesus into their heart. The youngest is 3 and sings about Jesus all the time. My children are active particpants in church. None of my children will be criminals. Had Mr. Haynes II planted seeds that have came to harvest. He should count his blessings that both his sons did not become criminals.

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Jul 17, 2008
 
Dad wrote:
The district attorney is the father of two sons, whom he says are “opposites.”
“You know, his brother was the valedictorian of his class. And Eugene, sometimes I can look back and say what could I have done better for him,” Haynes said.“It’s unfortunate that he has had some trouble. I’m trying to encourage him to deal with his problem.”
THAT is a father who is clearly suffering over the acts his son has committed. Evil people like you want to kick people when they are already down. Go say a prayer for your self.
You know, this must be Euguene Haynes II himself!

Guess we struck a nerve!

If Haynes III would enter a long term facility for drunks, maybe he could get his life straightened out. Wonder if he got his first drink out of Daddy's wine rack?
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Jul 17, 2008
 
jimahall wrote:
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You know, this must be Euguene Haynes II himself!
Guess we struck a nerve!
If Haynes III would enter a long term facility for drunks, maybe he could get his life straightened out. Wonder if he got his first drink out of Daddy's wine rack?
I will pray for the both of you.

Forgiveness Of Others-But I say unto you,Love your enemies,bless them that curse you,do good to them which despitefully use you,and persecute you. Matthew 5:44

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Matthew 6:14,15
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Jul 17, 2008
 
To Dad AOL. You are missing something here. This is not about us. We cannot forgive someone for screwing over someone else. It is not our place to forgive.

This is about the mistreatment of our children. They have attacked my children twice. We are going to stop them before they can pull a third stunt. They tried to take away our son's right to vote on this second stunt. Now that is very serious.

For a look at how some crooked law enforcement officers are backed up by the DA in Rogers and Mayes counties, take a look at our webpages at http://www.falseprosecution.com

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Jul 21, 2008
 
Dad wrote:
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It is such a pity no court takes you seriously. First of all your children are not out of the woods yet. That comment may come back to bite you in the rear 10 years from now when they turn out to be criminals. What are you going to say then? I know. The system is corrupt and any town you live in is out to get your kids for no reason. It won't be your fault....
I am curious, did you write this on the County owned computer in your County owned office, from your County owned chair?

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Jul 21, 2008
 
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I will pray for the both of you.
Forgiveness Of Others-But I say unto you,Love your enemies,bless them that curse you,do good to them which despitefully use you,and persecute you. Matthew 5:44
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Matthew 6:14,15
A more appropriate scripture would be:

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. Exodus 20:16 (New King James Version)

Yet many did bear false winess against me in Rogers County and Judge Dean ruled that it was false witness. This has nothing to do with forgiveness. This is to protect the inocent children that these corrupt officails have left abused and hurting.
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Jul 21, 2008
 
Hello? I was under the impression that all Rogers County computers have high spped internet and not aol. I guess I must have struck an unstable nerve in you with my comments. Please go get some counseling :-)Please!
Dave

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Jul 25, 2008
 
I do feel for the "not guilty" sons of Dad. We all know that the Police and DA have labored months to form a good frame up (good investigation guys!). Its obvious that they have absolutly no responsibility for their actions and that the Police planned for days the unfair violation of their rights (yeah right and then made the home owner report the crime). I am glad that the Police have all that extra time to personally attack an innocent family (boy am glad our detectives can solve crime). It is an outrage and should be stopped!!(criminals should be put in prison) Course if the dirtballs come to my house and try and steal, I am sure that my local Police will also "frame them". Get a grip on your thug sons and teach them to be MAN enough to admit when they are wrong. Its obvious were they get the no fault, victim and everyone else is wrong attitude from.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Dave wrote:
I do feel for the "not guilty" sons of Dad. We all know that the Police and DA have labored months to form a good frame up (good investigation guys!). Its obvious that they have absolutly no responsibility for their actions and that the Police planned for days the unfair violation of their rights (yeah right and then made the home owner report the crime). I am glad that the Police have all that extra time to personally attack an innocent family (boy am glad our detectives can solve crime). It is an outrage and should be stopped!!(criminals should be put in prison) Course if the dirtballs come to my house and try and steal, I am sure that my local Police will also "frame them". Get a grip on your thug sons and teach them to be MAN enough to admit when they are wrong. Its obvious were they get the no fault, victim and everyone else is wrong attitude from.
Wow! Now that was some serious truth. Yes, this man posts his website WITH HIS last name on it.His son's first name. Hint OSCN.net ! Oh and then there is www.odcr.com/Duh ! Dates included and then goes off on people and starts asking if you are so and so and you need to quit spying on him and snitching. Here's a hint dumbars## Stop posting your website and move on. Don't ask people to read your drama and then gripe cause they do!!! He is a real headcase.

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Jul 29, 2008
 
No, he is not a headcase. He is a father taht saw two sons wrongfully charged by a corrupt district attorney. The same DA that is trying to get his own guilty son off with a slap on the wrist. Sure glad I don't have to drive on the roads of Rogers County. Haynes III may be driving drunk today! Watch out! Was that Haynes?

Point of this story is that the Rogers County District Attorney raised a son that committed numerous felonies, including attempted murder of a law enforcement officer! Yet, Eugene Haynes III has yet to go to prison for his crimes.

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