Gay Pre-Teens Come Out But No Support

Gay Pre-Teens Come Out But No Support

There are 13 comments on the abcnews.go.com story from Jul 16, 2008, titled Gay Pre-Teens Come Out But No Support. In it, abcnews.go.com reports that:

Sean has felt since the age of 2 or 3 that he was a boy in a girl's body. Telling his parents at age 11 was difficult but coming out as transgender among his seventh-grade classmates was like walking into a lion's den

"I was bullied every day, shoved into lockers, beaten up and made fun of," said the 14-year-old. "The teachers were standing right there, saying nothing or just not aware of it."

Things got so bad for Sean that he dropped out of middle school, and his mother home-schooled him for the remainder of the year.

Like Sean, an increasing number of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender -- LGBT -- children are "coming out" earlier than high school because of greater cultural acceptance. But in the immature and sometimes predatory world of middle school, Sean's experience is not uncommon, according to advocacy groups.

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Mike

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#1 Oct 8, 2008
Hi, my 11 year old little bro is gay . I was sure he was a few years ago, when he asked me lots of questions about gay boys. We have a great bond, and he knows he can ask me anything. And i will allows answer in a open and honest way. Well he wanted to tell mum so me, Tom and mum sat down and he told her. She told him she doesent mind and will always love him. And ive never seen him more happy than after our talk. As a family we have never been closer, he now tells us both everything that bothers him (instead of just me) its so great. But as for his friends, he has only told his bestfriend (who has a gay older brother) so we know there will be know bullying or falling out. However his other friends do not know. He/we know if he starts telling people at school, he will get bullyed by the kids. Why do some people still have to hide there sexuality in 2008. I'm not gay, and i have know issues with anyone who is gay/bi/transgender etc. I wish one day people will open up their hearts for people like Tom. Hes just a kid who is ready for the world, but even in todays world their not ready for him.

“A T-Girl in Progress”

Since: Dec 07

St. Cloud, Florida

#2 Nov 22, 2008
I'm gay too. And home schooled (off-and-on). It's not so bad in my "gay-accepting" town, but I can just imagine what it must have been like even just one generation ago to be gay and closeted for your own safety.

It helps alot to have parents who aren't quick to condemn, try to change you, or get you into "therapy" to make you "normal."

-Shay

“A T-Girl in Progress”

Since: Dec 07

St. Cloud, Florida

#4 Nov 25, 2008
r m o GENIUS wrote:
Any kid who claims they are gay was molested by a queer.
I WAS molested, but by a gay-hating straight father. Someone like you, RMOP. Someone who berated gays every chance he got. Someone who filled ordinary conversation with vitriolic hate speech about "queer perverts." That's the man who molested me.

So is it fair to say that everyone who spends as much time as YOU do in the gay forum here at Topix, filling thread after thread with such toxic venom as, "Die of AIDS, faggots" and "all queers go to hell" must be a closet gay pedophile?

YOU SOUND JUST LIKE MY FATHER WHO MOLESTED ME. And the fact that you spend HOURS in the Gay forum STALKING me to harass me and my friends there is COMPELLING EVIDENCE to even the most casual observer that YOU are at very least, a WOULD BE child molester.
99.9% of all gays are child molesters.
They molest little boys and then all of a sudden that boy says he's "born gay". The cycle continues when the boy grows up to be a queer pervert and molests other boys to make them "born gay"...and so on and so on and so on...
Your statistics are fantasy. The great majority of pedophiles are STRAIGHT. The percentage of gay to straight people among them is exactly the same as the percentage in the general population - nearly 90% STRAIGHT.

It's about CHILDREN, not gender. They choose prey that is young, small, and vulnerable.

It took me YEARS to accept the fact that I am NOT responsiblke for what was done TO me as a DEFENSELESS CHILD.

But you blame the victims. Just like my father did.

Damn you both.

-Shay

“A T-Girl in Progress”

Since: Dec 07

St. Cloud, Florida

#6 Nov 25, 2008
r m o GENIUS wrote:
Any man who sexually molests a boy is a queer (homosexual).
If the man was straight he would molest a girl not a boy.
Most homosexuals molest boys.
Next.
My father would literally KILL you for calling him queer. Just as you are offended at the completely credible suggestion that YOU are a gay pedophile.

Whatever disability you have that keeps you from molesting people in real life has driven you to the Gay forums, where you spend long hours doing it vicariously from behind a keyboard.

Perhaps you're getting your figures from your OWN experience.

-Shay

“Bullish on Equal Rights”

Since: Dec 06

Rocky Mountains

#7 Nov 25, 2008
r m o GENIUS wrote:
Any man who sexually molests a boy is a queer (homosexual).
If the man was straight he would molest a girl not a boy.
Most homosexuals molest boys.
Next.
Wrong. Go back to school and learn the difference! Molestation is NOT about sex but about dominance.
Lillith19

Portland, OR

#8 Nov 25, 2008
"I WAS molested, but by a gay-hating straight father. Someone like you, RMOP. Someone who berated gays every chance he got. Someone who filled ordinary conversation with vitriolic hate speech about "queer perverts." That's the man who molested me."

Wow! How friggin' ironic.

I'm really sorry Shay.

It WILL get better, but I hope you are getting some therapy or support now?

“A T-Girl in Progress”

Since: Dec 07

St. Cloud, Florida

#9 Nov 26, 2008
Lillith19 wrote:
Wow! How friggin' ironic.
I'm really sorry Shay.
It WILL get better, but I hope you are getting some therapy or support now?
I am indeed... adopted, finally, by two awesome parents. I am home schooled (I have been on and off since my adoption) and have had some time to heal.

It wouldn't surprise me if "Real Man of Genius" (I call him Reeking Mange of Penis) WAS my biological father, continuing his attacks anonymously from behind a keyboard. But I'm not prepared for THAT much irony!

"Luke... I am your father!"

Nah. I can't go there.

-Shay

“Happiness can not be analyzed.”

Since: Jul 07

Montreal

#10 Nov 26, 2008
I never *dreamed* of coming out as a girl in school. I was *already* getting bullied for not fitting masculine norms. Who wants to give them a reason on top. I just tried to hide it best I could (heh, and wasn't all that successful) and finish school, graduate, then get the hell out. I graduated in 1999. Transitioned in 2006.

I learned transition was even possible in 2005, but I knew long before that something was up. My solution was suicide though.
gralphr

United States

#12 Jul 7, 2009
Coy Boy wrote:
<quoted text>
I WAS molested, but by a gay-hating straight father. Someone like you, RMOP. Someone who berated gays every chance he got. Someone who filled ordinary conversation with vitriolic hate speech about "queer perverts." That's the man who molested me.
So is it fair to say that everyone who spends as much time as YOU do in the gay forum here at Topix, filling thread after thread with such toxic venom as, "Die of AIDS, faggots" and "all queers go to hell" must be a closet gay pedophile?
YOU SOUND JUST LIKE MY FATHER WHO MOLESTED ME. And the fact that you spend HOURS in the Gay forum STALKING me to harass me and my friends there is COMPELLING EVIDENCE to even the most casual observer that YOU are at very least, a WOULD BE child molester.
<quoted text>
Your statistics are fantasy. The great majority of pedophiles are STRAIGHT. The percentage of gay to straight people among them is exactly the same as the percentage in the general population - nearly 90% STRAIGHT.
It's about CHILDREN, not gender. They choose prey that is young, small, and vulnerable.
It took me YEARS to accept the fact that I am NOT responsiblke for what was done TO me as a DEFENSELESS CHILD.
But you blame the victims. Just like my father did.
Damn you both.
-Shay
if you have sex with boys,(who are male also, by the way) then you are gay.look up the word gay in a dictionary, it says liking a member of the same sex and not according to age like gays try to define it. if the man is married and loves boys then he is bisexual and therefore gay in the end.
gralphr

United States

#13 Jul 7, 2009
Rikki S wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. Go back to school and learn the difference! Molestation is NOT about sex but about dominance.
says who? some guy with a degree who makes up mental disorders based off what the public feels about a subject? dont forget, gays had all types on unusual mental illnesses untill they fought back and the public became more open. So whats the answer? gays have mental illnesses or due to pressure these degree holding quacks became quiet due to pressure? Last of all we still havent found a gay gene so in the end it is in the mind so i consider in a type of harmless mental disorder.
cody

Sudbury, Canada

#14 Jul 7, 2009
hey do u have a msn then we can tlke in person
Kili

United States

#16 Apr 4, 2010
In 1978, psychologist Nicholas Groth screened 175 men who had been convicted in Massachusetts of sexual molestation of children and referred by a court for psychological evaluation. He found not a single gay man in this sample. Every one of the perpetrators was either an exclusive heterosexual, a bisexual with a predominantly heterosexual orientation, or a fixated pedophile with no sexual interest in adults. His conclusion? That "the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male."

In the same year, researcher David Newton reviewed the scientific literature and found no reason to believe that anything other than a "random connection" existed between homosexual orientation and child molestation.

In 1988, renowned sex researcher Kurt Freund at the Clarke Institute of Psychiatry in Toronto studied two groups of paid volunteers and found that gay men responded no more to male child stimuli than heterosexual men responded to female child stimuli. He later described as a "myth" the notion that gay men are more likely than straight men to be child molesters.

The key to understanding research on this issue is to recognize three things. First, a person's sexual attraction to adults, whether homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual, is wholly distinct from an attraction to children. A person can be attracted only to adults, only to children, or occasionally to both, but these attractions are independent facets of a person's psychology.

In fact, it might interest you to know that my women's group, my LESBIAN womens group (West Side Gal Pals), is currently working on producing a fundraising project that will go toward identifying thousands of murderers, predators and rapists and will involve several government offices (LA District Attorney, Mayor, Governor) and several crime/forensic TV series stars which you may hear about before too long. If you think about it, it makes sense that a movement like this will be started in the GAY community!
Jim_Jasion

Iselin, NJ

#17 Apr 14, 2010
Recently the NY Times wrote an article about coming out as gay in Middle School. Makes for interesting reading. When I was 7, my limbic system was telling me unmistakeable messages about who and what aroused me sexually. I just had no concept of what sex was or what the name for it was. I wouldn't make the connection between me and my category until age 14 1/2 in 1965. Thirty years of exile in HELL followed. Thank you Roman Catholic Church. I still see you're indulging in THE BIG LIE!

For my other 2 cents. RMOP is wrong and hateful and would be worthy of my contempt except my personal morality prompts me to try to understand such brokenness in people rather than to hate them.

Blessed Be.

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