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Is 100-year-sentence appropriate for mentally disabled first-time offender who fondled youth?

There are 166 comments on the www.dallasnews.com story from Jun 10, 2009, titled Is 100-year-sentence appropriate for mentally disabled first-time offender who fondled youth?. In it, www.dallasnews.com reports that:

When an 18-year-old with profound mental disabilities performed sexual acts on a 6-year-old neighbor, the small town of Paris, Texas, was unforgiving.

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duckhunter

Fort Worth, TX

#1 Jun 10, 2009
I live in paris and no, it is not right.

Since: Feb 09

United States

#2 Jun 10, 2009
I live in Paris also, and I respectfully disagree. Until there is a better solution in place, the public needs to be protected.
bondslave

Paris, TX

#3 Jun 10, 2009
This case points up a more serious problem that exists in Texas;The lack of adquate mental health facilities to treat persons who are found guilty of sex crimes but are mentally impared. Judge Clifford stated it clearly in his verdict ; there was no where to place this boy except in prison . He is obviously dangerous and would most probably molest again. What do you think should have been done? Should the judge have sent him to Terrel where he would have been released in about 30 days?Would you want him around your small children? The fact that he is mentally slow does not mean that he should be on the street does it?
Just where should he go and for how long?Think about this when you are critical of the verdict. Judge Clifford knows that it will be reviewed by the court of appeals and ;I think ,he is hoping that they will send it to a different jurisdiction for retrial.Persons who are preditors cannot be allowed to roam freely among us mentally ill or otherwise!
GrandviewGuy

Buffalo, NY

#4 Jun 10, 2009
These kind of brainless decisions are what cost taxpayers big money and simply add to the publics uneasiness with the courts. I bet Gary Young feels like a real man today.

Since: Feb 09

United States

#5 Jun 10, 2009
GrandviewGuy wrote:
These kind of brainless decisions are what cost taxpayers big money and simply add to the publics uneasiness with the courts. I bet Gary Young feels like a real man today.
If it were your responsibility to sentence him, what would be your decision? Remember, the public needs protection also.
Kudos to Clifford

Paris, TX

#6 Jun 10, 2009
If anyone were to harm my granddaughter, then I would hope like hell that the judge presiding would follow Judge Cliffords example. Too many times a molester is given a mere slap on the hand in exchange for the scarring a young victim suffers at the hands of a monster. I applaud Judge Clifford for the punishment that was handed down.
Whodidyouvotefor

United States

#7 Jun 10, 2009
This decision along with a few other poor thought out decisions by the mentioned judge should make you ask yourself "who did I vote for", and to those of you that didn't vote at all, this should be a wake up call for it's hard to complain if you never cast your vote. Those of us with mentally challenged children will put more thought behind our vote during the next election. My thoughts go out to the victem and the family of the victem, for what happened was unacceptable and I do indeed think something needed to be done to prevent this from happening again, but I also think that there should have been a little more homework done before sentencing to determine where the most appropriate place was to send a mentally challenged person. This was like throwing a second grader in the pen with a bunch of pit bulls. VOTE...VOTE...VOTE...FOR CHANGE.

Since: Aug 08

Paris, TX

#8 Jun 10, 2009
NOPE!!!!
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#9 Jun 10, 2009
Yes!!! Never let him out.
GrandviewGuy

Buffalo, NY

#10 Jun 11, 2009
Mr_Man wrote:
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If it were your responsibility to sentence him, what would be your decision? Remember, the public needs protection also.
Gee, that's a hard one. Well first, you could get a NON BIASED evaluation from mental health people that don't live in the area and are not tainted. That would have given the court a valid assesment of this boys ability to understand what's happening. Second, a venue change would have been my first choice as his attorney......anywhere except in the jurisdiction of Gary Young, who's only interest seems to be keeping his job. This case should have been censured by the courts concerning the media coverage. People making inflammatory statements and lying in the media is NOT what this country's idea of justice is. As far as the public being "protected".....wow, are you really that afraid of a 13 year old with a 5 year old mentality? Face it, the victims mom over reacted, the prosecutor jumps one space closer to fame, and the kid who's in jail has no idea what happened. Now that's justice......please!
Hmmm Again

United States

#11 Jun 11, 2009
GrandviewGuy wrote:
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Gee, that's a hard one. Well first, you could get a NON BIASED evaluation from mental health people that don't live in the area and are not tainted. That would have given the court a valid assesment of this boys ability to understand what's happening. Second, a venue change would have been my first choice as his attorney......anywhere except in the jurisdiction of Gary Young, who's only interest seems to be keeping his job. This case should have been censured by the courts concerning the media coverage. People making inflammatory statements and lying in the media is NOT what this country's idea of justice is. As far as the public being "protected".....wow, are you really that afraid of a 13 year old with a 5 year old mentality? Face it, the victims mom over reacted, the prosecutor jumps one space closer to fame, and the kid who's in jail has no idea what happened. Now that's justice......please!
More questions for you. Who are you referring to when you mention a 13 year old with a 5 year old mentality? The convicted felon in this case is 19 years old. Where have his parents been all of those 19 years? If he thinks like a 6-year-old he needs to be watched after and protected as you wuold any 6-year-old. Where were his parents on the day of the incident? His father reported, after the sentencing, how he would walk up and down the street talking to a string. Would you let you 6-year-old walk up and down the streets unsupervised? How was he able to finish high school? Terrell state hospital is for the mentally insane. This man was not mentally insane he is reportedly mentally handicapped. I thought you could only get a venue change where the accused could not get a fair trial from the jury. How would that apply to this case?
stick it

Arlington, TX

#12 Jun 11, 2009
GrandviewGuy wrote:
These kind of brainless decisions are what cost taxpayers big money and simply add to the publics uneasiness with the courts. I bet Gary Young feels like a real man today.
Why don't you stick it up your NY a$$. Gary Young didn't ask for stacked sentences. But, unlike in the yankee "states", we prosecute people in Texas and they get prison when they molest a child (not a few days in the county jail). The judge stacked the sentences after the jury gave him 30 years on the main count of the crime (times 5 counts).

I bet you feel like a real man for posting something anonymously from all the way up there in God awful New York.
stick it

Arlington, TX

#13 Jun 11, 2009
Whodidyouvotefor wrote:
This decision along with a few other poor thought out decisions by the mentioned judge should make you ask yourself "who did I vote for", and to those of you that didn't vote at all, this should be a wake up call for it's hard to complain if you never cast your vote. Those of us with mentally challenged children will put more thought behind our vote during the next election. My thoughts go out to the victem and the family of the victem, for what happened was unacceptable and I do indeed think something needed to be done to prevent this from happening again, but I also think that there should have been a little more homework done before sentencing to determine where the most appropriate place was to send a mentally challenged person. This was like throwing a second grader in the pen with a bunch of pit bulls. VOTE...VOTE...VOTE...FOR CHANGE.
Hey Ohio dumba$$- you and all the rest of the country above the Mason-Dixon line need to understand this: in Texas, there are 2 choices for anybody. Probation or prison. Probation is "go home and let the community supervise you." Prison is "go behind bars so the rest of the public is safe from you." Would you want to take this little ingrate into your house and let him live with you knowing he'd knowingly, secretively molested a child? I think not.

When the judge said there was nothing else we could do with him, he was right. We don't just make up laws down here in Texas from the judge's bench and decide "there should now be a low IQ alternative to all the sentences the legislature has created, so I'll just create one to satisfy all the people from up north that I know are not going to like this." Suck it.

All of you who are bitching can contact the Texas legislature and tell them to create a lock-down facility where low IQ people get help/therapy, serve some time, and then return to society (hopefully) better. Until then, we'll do it our way and you stay the hell out of Texas.
stick it

Arlington, TX

#14 Jun 11, 2009
GrandviewGuy wrote:
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Gee, that's a hard one. Well first, you could get a NON BIASED evaluation from mental health people that don't live in the area and are not tainted. That would have given the court a valid assesment of this boys ability to understand what's happening. Second, a venue change would have been my first choice as his attorney......anywhere except in the jurisdiction of Gary Young, who's only interest seems to be keeping his job. This case should have been censured by the courts concerning the media coverage. People making inflammatory statements and lying in the media is NOT what this country's idea of justice is. As far as the public being "protected".....wow, are you really that afraid of a 13 year old with a 5 year old mentality? Face it, the victims mom over reacted, the prosecutor jumps one space closer to fame, and the kid who's in jail has no idea what happened. Now that's justice......please!
The victim's mom overreacted when she found her 6-year-old son being anally raped in a lawnmower shed? You're perhaps the most insane dumba$$ I've ever encountered. You know nothing about anything involving this case other than what you've read in the papers. And they're all slanted for the defendant. Shut the hell up or come the hell down here and let's see how YOU like getting it up the a$$ in a toolshed, you New York piece of $hit.
anon

United States

#15 Jun 11, 2009
this was not over kill on the justice system, it is sad that it had to come to this but I have children and I know if the young man was free to roam the street no ones kid would be safe, they couldn't fight off a 19yo young man and he should be locked up for life be it prison or a mental hospital - I don't care where they lock him up just lock him up because if he were caught doing that to my kid you wouldn't have had to worry about where he was spending the rest of his life, because he would not have had an life left after I got finished with him
justice man

Paris, TX

#16 Jun 11, 2009
***STICK IT**** You have it exactly right in all of your posts above. I would only add that this so-called kid was 18 at the time and weighed 220 lbs screwing a 6 year old in the butt. Plus, like any trial where the law has to be followed, there had been reports of him molesting other children in that neighborhood but people were afraid of him because he would just walk in to other peoples houses. This "KID" was and is a dangerous mental defective who should not ever be allowed to roam the streets anywhere except maybe next door to GRANDVIEW GUY in Buffalo New York. Also, in spite of what people have said--this was not his only run in with the law--he was in fact already on probation and had a new offense for Criminal Mischief pending when he was arrested for this horrible crime. So, mr grandview guy don't lose any sleep worrying about us down here in Texas--we put criminals where they belong or we put them to sleep--whatever is needed.
GrandviewGuy

United States

#17 Jun 11, 2009
stick it wrote:
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The victim's mom overreacted when she found her 6-year-old son being anally raped in a lawnmower shed? You're perhaps the most insane dumba$$ I've ever encountered. You know nothing about anything involving this case other than what you've read in the papers. And they're all slanted for the defendant. Shut the hell up or come the hell down here and let's see how YOU like getting it up the a$$ in a toolshed, you New York piece of $hit.
Well , now I know you're typical of the corn hole area that you live in dweebus. Only because you stated I was the biggest dumbass you ever encountered, and we all know that's impossible if you live in Texas.......and.......also an excellent example of internet BIG BALLS. It's so easy to be a real man on the keyboard huh sonny? We don't have tool sheds up here, we are more civilized and have garages....and hey.....real driveways too instaed of the dirt road shacks you live in. One thing I learned about most folks from Texas...a lot of noise over nothin! You all have a history of big mouths and little dicks. Listen up Sh_t for brains. I fly in and out of Dallas, Corpus, and Ft. Worth every month. Any time......ANY time you want to back up your 10 year old balls, give me a shout. Finally, yor DA Gary Young is a liar and a stroker of the public, but then again.....YOU all put him in office. You sounded pretty hot in your posts dude. Maybe you ought to just grab a jug and your bamboo pole and take a walk down to the ol' pond and relax jerkwad! Hey.........do you have a gun rack on your pick up?
GrandviewGuy

United States

#18 Jun 11, 2009
stick it wrote:
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Why don't you stick it up your NY a$$. Gary Young didn't ask for stacked sentences. But, unlike in the yankee "states", we prosecute people in Texas and they get prison when they molest a child (not a few days in the county jail). The judge stacked the sentences after the jury gave him 30 years on the main count of the crime (times 5 counts).
I bet you feel like a real man for posting something anonymously from all the way up there in God awful New York.
You don't know what you're talking about Cletus.....Texas has one of the highest percentages of FAILED parolees that get out and do crimes. It is also the highest cap punishment eval because you all haven't been able to read past the part in the Constitution about the right to bear arms........you guys saw that and WHOPEDEE DOOOOOO......and your results prove it. Your tourism has fallen over the years because no one wants to visit a desert or get shot asking directions. This whole thing could have been prevented if "mommy" had kept her eye on her child, instead of chatting on the internet or shuckin corn dude. Also....I do feel like a man because I retired from the Navy after 20 years defending my country, AND risk my life every week in the air. Not sitting in some barn whittling my next fishing rod waiting for the next rain to arrive.
GrandviewGuy

United States

#19 Jun 11, 2009
Hmmm Again wrote:
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More questions for you. Who are you referring to when you mention a 13 year old with a 5 year old mentality? The convicted felon in this case is 19 years old. Where have his parents been all of those 19 years? If he thinks like a 6-year-old he needs to be watched after and protected as you wuold any 6-year-old. Where were his parents on the day of the incident? His father reported, after the sentencing, how he would walk up and down the street talking to a string. Would you let you 6-year-old walk up and down the streets unsupervised? How was he able to finish high school? Terrell state hospital is for the mentally insane. This man was not mentally insane he is reportedly mentally handicapped. I thought you could only get a venue change where the accused could not get a fair trial from the jury. How would that apply to this case?
First, let me ask you this......your post has one very big question about child supervision, how is the mom off the hook for letting her boy be anywhere near this older kid?
Hmmm Again

Arlington, TX

#20 Jun 11, 2009
GrandviewGuy wrote:
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First, let me ask you this......your post has one very big question about child supervision, how is the mom off the hook for letting her boy be anywhere near this older kid?
Her son, the six year old, was in his own fenced back yard and had only been out of her sight for a few minutes. Why would you even think of blaming the victim's mother or the victim? Now go ahead and anwser the other questions that I ask in my other post.

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